Hal Lindes' post about Private dancer

[boboDS]

By the way, when did Mark write Rüdiger? Didn't he start it in the early 80s? IF that's the case, and IF the 96 version has any traces of the music when Mark first started working on it, to me it sounds like it could have been "conceived" during the LOG era. Would be awesome to hear it played on a Spanish guitar and with marimbas.

It was surely late 70s, because I remember there exists an early demo with David, and it is quite different musically compared to what we know from 1996 :-) Jeroen has it on his website - on some compilation bootleg if I remember correctly.

[jbaent]

By the way, when did Mark write Rüdiger? Didn't he start it in the early 80s? IF that's the case, and IF the 96 version has any traces of the music when Mark first started working on it, to me it sounds like it could have been "conceived" during the LOG era. Would be awesome to hear it played on a Spanish guitar and with marimbas.

It was surely late 70s, because I remember there exists an early demo with David, and it is quite different musically compared to what we know from 1996 :-) Jeroen has it on his website - on some compilation bootleg if I remember correctly.

Really?

First time I hear about a Rüdiger demo from the late 70's with David on guitar... And Jeroen having it on his website!

[straitsway75]

By the way, when did Mark write Rüdiger? Didn't he start it in the early 80s? IF that's the case, and IF the 96 version has any traces of the music when Mark first started working on it, to me it sounds like it could have been "conceived" during the LOG era. Would be awesome to hear it played on a Spanish guitar and with marimbas.

It was surely late 70s, because I remember there exists an early demo with David, and it is quite different musically compared to what we know from 1996 :-) Jeroen has it on his website - on some compilation bootleg if I remember correctly.

Really?

First time I hear about a Rüdiger demo from the late 70's with David on guitar... And Jeroen having it on his website!

+1
more info/ link  please

[quizzaciously]

By the way, when did Mark write Rüdiger? Didn't he start it in the early 80s? IF that's the case, and IF the 96 version has any traces of the music when Mark first started working on it, to me it sounds like it could have been "conceived" during the LOG era. Would be awesome to hear it played on a Spanish guitar and with marimbas.

It was surely late 70s, because I remember there exists an early demo with David, and it is quite different musically compared to what we know from 1996 :-) Jeroen has it on his website - on some compilation bootleg if I remember correctly.

Really?

First time I hear about a Rüdiger demo from the late 70's with David on guitar... And Jeroen having it on his website!

+1
more info/ link  please

But why then Mark told the story that the song was written after John Lennon's death? Either way, I'm not surprised that some songs are old. I think Mark has a lot of songs with early beginnings that we never were aware of... Songwriting is a tough job so no suprise he uses some early snippets in his work. He may have still some old words in a notebook somewhere!

[Robson]

Apparently he had Rudiger's words after John Lennon's death but he couldn't find the melody.