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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2022, 12:54:42 pm »
Oh, and one person in the world plays a Pedobro which wouldn't usually be relevant but is of interest on this forum!

I think you mean Paul Franklin? I think he called it pedabro, and it's the one he plays in TR during the OES tour, it's like a pedal steel guitar, but the instrument has a cone, isn't it?
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2022, 01:01:41 pm »
Oh, and one person in the world plays a Pedobro which wouldn't usually be relevant but is of interest on this forum!

I think you mean Paul Franklin? I think he called it pedabro, and it's the one he plays in TR during the OES tour, it's like a pedal steel guitar, but the instrument has a cone, isn't it?

Correct!

I think he said his dad made it and I don't know of anyone else who plays one.

I'm not sure about TR but it's famously used on You and Your Friend.
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2022, 01:17:30 pm »
Oh, and one person in the world plays a Pedobro which wouldn't usually be relevant but is of interest on this forum!

I think you mean Paul Franklin? I think he called it pedabro, and it's the one he plays in TR during the OES tour, it's like a pedal steel guitar, but the instrument has a cone, isn't it?

Correct!

I think he said his dad made it and I don't know of anyone else who plays one.

I'm not sure about TR but it's famously used on You and Your Friend.

I think they are different instruments, the one you says I think is called just "The box", and it's what he plays in "You and your friends"

The pedabro is this, and it's played in the start of TR during the OES tour:



The box is an instrument all of wood, without any resonator, just a hole, like an Spanish guitar, where the sounds resonates. This is the one used on "You and your friend"

« Last Edit: February 24, 2022, 01:43:10 pm by jbaent »
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2022, 02:50:39 pm »
Ah OK, gets too complicated once the Franklins start inventing instruments!
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2022, 11:40:10 pm »
Yes Dusty I see what you mean by "lapsteel" as electric"  :)

there are also lapsteel that are note played on laps, but on a stand, without pedals... yes it can get complicated....

I tried to sum up all these differents kinds of playing in this article   :)

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/les-differentes-facons-de-jouer-de-la-guitare-a-plat/
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2022, 11:43:14 pm »

I think they are different instruments, the one you says I think is called just "The box", and it's what he plays in "You and your friends"

The pedabro is this, and it's played in the start of TR during the OES tour:

The box is an instrument all of wood, without any resonator, just a hole, like an Spanish guitar, where the sounds resonates. This is the one used on "You and your friend"


Thanks for this precision, I always thought that The box was the nickname for pedabro

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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2022, 10:05:10 am »
Yes Dusty I see what you mean by "lapsteel" as electric"  :)

there are also lapsteel that are note played on laps, but on a stand, without pedals... yes it can get complicated....

I tried to sum up all these differents kinds of playing in this article   :)

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/les-differentes-facons-de-jouer-de-la-guitare-a-plat/

Very nice article.

I own a 1961 Fender lap steel and a double neck Magnatone from the 1950s, but the legs are lost for that one. :) A keyboard stand works fine.
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2022, 10:11:08 am »

I think they are different instruments, the one you says I think is called just "The box", and it's what he plays in "You and your friends"

The pedabro is this, and it's played in the start of TR during the OES tour:

The box is an instrument all of wood, without any resonator, just a hole, like an Spanish guitar, where the sounds resonates. This is the one used on "You and your friend"


Thanks for this precision, I always thought that The box was the nickname for pedabro

You can update now the article with the box. When you see that it's just a wood box with a hole, the name gets sense!
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2022, 04:19:10 pm »

I think they are different instruments, the one you says I think is called just "The box", and it's what he plays in "You and your friends"

The pedabro is this, and it's played in the start of TR during the OES tour:

The box is an instrument all of wood, without any resonator, just a hole, like an Spanish guitar, where the sounds resonates. This is the one used on "You and your friend"


Thanks for this precision, I always thought that The box was the nickname for pedabro

You can update now the article with the box. When you see that it's just a wood box with a hole, the name gets sense!

yes, done  :)
thanks for your help  :)

by the way, I think that the pedabro is also played on how long, Weapon of prayer and That's where I belong, among others
and maybe Bewildered... not sure on this one. The sound is something between dobro and electric steel

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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2022, 04:24:24 pm »
Yoy might be right, never paid that much attention to it, but for how long, makes sense.
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2022, 05:20:33 pm »
Just listening to Bewildered. I think you may be right.
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2022, 09:27:34 pm »
Yes Dusty I see what you mean by "lapsteel" as electric"  :)

there are also lapsteel that are note played on laps, but on a stand, without pedals... yes it can get complicated....

I tried to sum up all these differents kinds of playing in this article   :)

https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/les-differentes-facons-de-jouer-de-la-guitare-a-plat/

I love the sound of any steel guitar, dobro, slide guitar, pedal steel or whatever it's called. These instruments give each song a special atmosphere.
Hope we will hear some of them on Mark's new album. Thanks for the interesting article, JF.  :thumbsup
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2022, 01:17:09 am »
I think some of those examples are dobro as opposed to what is commonly referred to as lap steel, which is an electric instrument initially associated with Hawaiian music. :)

The dobro is also played like a lap steel, let's see the great Jerry Douglas!
I love this version from Dan Auerbach’s solo album which MK played on. This live version of Never In My Wildest Dreams has Jerry Douglas.


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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2022, 01:25:55 pm »
I'd love so much Jerry Douglas playing in a MK record... The closest was the Bap Kennedy's Sailor Revenge, where in some songs you have Knopfler and Douglas playing in the same song, but MK in that record did quite a lot of rhythm guitars and very little solos...
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Re: The new songs - A hypothesis
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2022, 01:31:04 pm »
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