Jack Sonni passed away

[Jules]

Actually, in my opinion, MK's music gained more souls when the Macs joined the band.

The rest of the band are all session musicians that can be changed by others and you won't notice the difference, as in GH you can't know who play what unless you read the credits.

[hunter]

Actually, in my opinion, MK's music gained more souls when the Macs joined the band.

The rest of the band are all session musicians that can be changed by others and you won't notice the difference, as in GH you can't know who play what unless you read the credits.

I agree. John and Mike added color and life to the stage. Danny and Ian too to a certain degree, I would say. The others in the band are pretty anonymous. And that's what Jack added. And Brendan Croker. Mark, being the introvert he is, really enjoys and feeds off of that energy.

[MagicElliott]

Actually, in my opinion, MK's music gained more souls when the Macs joined the band.

The rest of the band are all session musicians that can be changed by others and you won't notice the difference, as in GH you can't know who play what unless you read the credits.

I think one of the best songs that this is highlighted on is Speedway. Listen to a 2005 version where Guy is playing the violin intro on synth. It’s okay and I probably wouldn’t have good enough ears to tell it’s not a proper violin unless I can see the stage. But there’s no doubt that song rocketed after 2008.

[superval99]

Actually, in my opinion, MK's music gained more souls when the Macs joined the band.

The rest of the band are all session musicians that can be changed by others and you won't notice the difference, as in GH you can't know who play what unless you read the credits.

I think one of the best songs that this is highlighted on is Speedway. Listen to a 2005 version where Guy is playing the violin intro on synth. It’s okay and I probably wouldn’t have good enough ears to tell it’s not a proper violin unless I can see the stage. But there’s no doubt that song rocketed after 2008.

We have taken various members of our family to see MK concerts and, apart from MK, it is the folkies that they always particularly mention.

[qjamesfloyd]

The thing is, all these musicians Mark plays with in his solo career are chosen by him, be that because he likes the person, or because he likes their playing or any other number of reasons, it doesn't matter if they are great or not, they must like Mark's songs or they wouldn't be working with him for so long, both Richard and Glenn have stated that working with Mark has been a high point in their careers, if that's not an endorsement I don't know what is, they are session players with decades or work, with many, many people, so, I believe them, Emmylou and Chet both have said highly complimentary things about Mark too, as always, there are 2 sides to the story, and we really don't don't know what either of them are!!! We can't all get on with everyone we meet or work with, or even related to, that's just life.

[dmg]

The Dullards? You do know this is a pro MK forum. No person is perfect, and I can guarantee he has had to be harsh as he’s in one of the most cut throat and ruthless industries going.  I have alot of respect for him as he has protected every one he’s worked with. I’m sure some were absolute arseholes, yet MK remains silent even with shit being flung at him. He’s the boss at the end of the day and who likes their boss. I shall be keeping MK and DS on my playlist for now, unless it turns out he was best friends with Epstein.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, but after reflecting about Jack's life in recent days I came to the conclusion that Mark has not been a nice person over the years and you're kidding yourself otherwise.  That doesn't mean I won't listen to his music though.

I can perfectly understand where The Dullards name comes from. It's not an insult, as much as ironicising about Mark using these Universe-class musicians to play simple strumming songs, which is quite literally like a walk in a park for them. And the fact they have very little room for improvisation, being Multiverse-class improvisers. Meanwhile, the same MK just pulled a guy from a music store for his biggest tour and look how cool that went!

Simple strumming songs? Really?


Of course it was meant as an insult. Ed found the band dull (boring), and to be fair, they aren't exactly a lively or cool lot. But dullard is not the right word to use.

You (and others) don't get it:  "The Dullards" is completely different from a dullard.  Proper noun vs noun. 

[superval99]

The Dullards? You do know this is a pro MK forum. No person is perfect, and I can guarantee he has had to be harsh as he’s in one of the most cut throat and ruthless industries going.  I have alot of respect for him as he has protected every one he’s worked with. I’m sure some were absolute arseholes, yet MK remains silent even with shit being flung at him. He’s the boss at the end of the day and who likes their boss. I shall be keeping MK and DS on my playlist for now, unless it turns out he was best friends with Epstein.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, but after reflecting about Jack's life in recent days I came to the conclusion that Mark has not been a nice person over the years and you're kidding yourself otherwise.  That doesn't mean I won't listen to his music though.

I can perfectly understand where The Dullards name comes from. It's not an insult, as much as ironicising about Mark using these Universe-class musicians to play simple strumming songs, which is quite literally like a walk in a park for them. And the fact they have very little room for improvisation, being Multiverse-class improvisers. Meanwhile, the same MK just pulled a guy from a music store for his biggest tour and look how cool that went!

Simple strumming songs? Really?


Of course it was meant as an insult. Ed found the band dull (boring), and to be fair, they aren't exactly a lively or cool lot. But dullard is not the right word to use.

You (and others) don't get it:  "The Dullards" is completely different from a dullard.  Proper noun vs noun.

I do happen to know the difference between a proper noun and a noun.   "The Dullards" is a proper noun, hence the capital letters, given to the members of MK's solo band by Ed Bicknell.   The noun, dullard, is a noun to describe someone as stupid or dull-minded.  I still find it offensive to give this name to such a talented band. 

[dmg]

The Dullards? You do know this is a pro MK forum. No person is perfect, and I can guarantee he has had to be harsh as he’s in one of the most cut throat and ruthless industries going.  I have alot of respect for him as he has protected every one he’s worked with. I’m sure some were absolute arseholes, yet MK remains silent even with shit being flung at him. He’s the boss at the end of the day and who likes their boss. I shall be keeping MK and DS on my playlist for now, unless it turns out he was best friends with Epstein.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, but after reflecting about Jack's life in recent days I came to the conclusion that Mark has not been a nice person over the years and you're kidding yourself otherwise.  That doesn't mean I won't listen to his music though.

I can perfectly understand where The Dullards name comes from. It's not an insult, as much as ironicising about Mark using these Universe-class musicians to play simple strumming songs, which is quite literally like a walk in a park for them. And the fact they have very little room for improvisation, being Multiverse-class improvisers. Meanwhile, the same MK just pulled a guy from a music store for his biggest tour and look how cool that went!

Simple strumming songs? Really?


Of course it was meant as an insult. Ed found the band dull (boring), and to be fair, they aren't exactly a lively or cool lot. But dullard is not the right word to use.

You (and others) don't get it:  "The Dullards" is completely different from a dullard.  Proper noun vs noun.

I do happen to know the difference between a proper noun and a noun.   "The Dullards" is a proper noun, hence the capital letters, given to the members of MK's solo band by Ed Bicknell.   The noun, dullard, is a noun to describe someone as stupid or dull-minded.  I still find it offensive to give this name to such a talented band.

I referred to the band as The Dullards, not a dullard, so I can't help it if anyone is offended by that.  I think it's clear it was an in-joke as Ed was still Marks manager for the first two solo albums.  I've called them that for years, why is it an issue now?

[quizzaciously]

The Dullards? You do know this is a pro MK forum. No person is perfect, and I can guarantee he has had to be harsh as he’s in one of the most cut throat and ruthless industries going.  I have alot of respect for him as he has protected every one he’s worked with. I’m sure some were absolute arseholes, yet MK remains silent even with shit being flung at him. He’s the boss at the end of the day and who likes their boss. I shall be keeping MK and DS on my playlist for now, unless it turns out he was best friends with Epstein.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, but after reflecting about Jack's life in recent days I came to the conclusion that Mark has not been a nice person over the years and you're kidding yourself otherwise.  That doesn't mean I won't listen to his music though.

I can perfectly understand where The Dullards name comes from. It's not an insult, as much as ironicising about Mark using these Universe-class musicians to play simple strumming songs, which is quite literally like a walk in a park for them. And the fact they have very little room for improvisation, being Multiverse-class improvisers. Meanwhile, the same MK just pulled a guy from a music store for his biggest tour and look how cool that went!

Simple strumming songs? Really?


Of course it was meant as an insult. Ed found the band dull (boring), and to be fair, they aren't exactly a lively or cool lot. But dullard is not the right word to use.

You (and others) don't get it:  "The Dullards" is completely different from a dullard.  Proper noun vs noun.

I do happen to know the difference between a proper noun and a noun.   "The Dullards" is a proper noun, hence the capital letters, given to the members of MK's solo band by Ed Bicknell.   The noun, dullard, is a noun to describe someone as stupid or dull-minded.  I still find it offensive to give this name to such a talented band.

I referred to the band as The Dullards, not a dullard, so I can't help it if anyone is offended by that.  I think it's clear it was an in-joke as Ed was still Marks manager for the first two solo albums.

I find it quite hilarious and unlikely that somebody who named his own band DIRE STRAITS and played in Brewer's Droop can be offended by The Dullards moniker 🤣

[hunter]

Anyway.


RIP Jack

[cannibals]

Do we know a cause of death?

[dustyvalentino]

I referred to the band as The Dullards, not a dullard, so I can't help it if anyone is offended by that.  I think it's clear it was an in-joke as Ed was still Marks manager for the first two solo albums.  I've called them that for years, why is it an issue now?

It's not an issue, I just said that I find this (and other) nickname(s) childish, but you are free to call people what you want, just as I am free to find the use of these terms childish

[Pottel]

Do we know a cause of death?

stroke (2) if i remember/heard it correctly.

[Pottel]

I believe it was Ed who coined the term Dullards and he obviously has a chip on his shoulder as someone who was dumped when MK moved on from the headband. Ed is another who has done nothing of note without MK by the way.

Personally I find it childish when I see these nicknames. There’s plenty of people I don’t care for but I try not to use nicknames for them. People calling Bob Dylan Krusty is another example.

i am a huge BD fan, and i for one do not care one bit about the krusty nick and use it myself. BUT i get your point in general

[dustyvalentino]

I believe it was Ed who coined the term Dullards and he obviously has a chip on his shoulder as someone who was dumped when MK moved on from the headband. Ed is another who has done nothing of note without MK by the way.

Personally I find it childish when I see these nicknames. There’s plenty of people I don’t care for but I try not to use nicknames for them. People calling Bob Dylan Krusty is another example.

i am a huge BD fan, and i for one do not care one bit about the krusty nick and use it myself. BUT i get your point in general

I don't get angry about it or anything, I just find it childish, and for me it says more about the person using the terms than those they are directed at. It's not a forum thing, I take this view in general, when people give politicians etc nicknames as well. Just not my thing.