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OfflineLove Expresso

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2024, 08:21:48 PM »
Too much after-show booze probably  ;D

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2024, 09:43:54 PM »
Beautiful little song, kind of follow-up to Basil - he even reuses the phrase "collins and bobs". 
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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2024, 11:22:01 PM »
Beautiful little song, kind of follow-up to Basil - he even reuses the phrase "collins and bobs".

What exactly does that phrase mean or refer to? I could not google anything. Is the song similar by the setting or even melodicaly :)? Thanks! (Btw: Basil is one of my personal favourites! :)

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2024, 12:44:09 AM »
It is Colin's and Bob's, referring to typical male first names of the period, 60s/70s.

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2024, 08:38:55 AM »
To me, the (synth) strings are the same category as in Ticket To Heaven, meaningwise. I think this one is the meanest, most evil song on the album. False sweetness, fake feelings he sings about seems to be the moment they come up with this string  idea. If you read the lyrics you will see what I mean.

I would say it is sort of a spin-off song from Basil, Basil revisited so to say. The copy boy from Basil has grown up and became a hard cynical journalist. Melodywise it is not that similar, but the mood is the same.
I needed a few times before this one started to grow on me but it is very good indeed.

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2024, 06:26:03 PM »
Beautiful little song, kind of follow-up to Basil - he even reuses the phrase "collins and bobs".

What exactly does that phrase mean or refer to? I could not google anything. Is the song similar by the setting or even melodicaly :)? Thanks! (Btw: Basil is one of my personal favourites! :)

Both are about his time working for The Chronicle.
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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2024, 07:48:16 AM »
To me, the (synth) strings are the same category as in Ticket To Heaven, meaningwise. I think this one is the meanest, most evil song on the album. False sweetness, fake feelings he sings about seems to be the moment they come up with this string  idea. If you read the lyrics you will see what I mean.

I would say it is sort of a spin-off song from Basil, Basil revisited so to say. The copy boy from Basil has grown up and became a hard cynical journalist. Melodywise it is not that similar, but the mood is the same.
I needed a few times before this one started to grow on me but it is very good indeed.

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I also thought about a cynical journalist but in the end the character says he hates the black tie jobs so maybe it's just a journalist that knows he has to do that job in that way, doing his best, despite he hates doing that.
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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2024, 12:53:31 PM »
I like the song and the tone, but I'm not too fond of the fake strings; I had hoped we passed that stage. The strings on Get Lucky and Privateering were so beautiful!

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2024, 12:59:17 PM »
To me, the (synth) strings are the same category as in Ticket To Heaven, meaningwise. I think this one is the meanest, most evil song on the album. False sweetness, fake feelings he sings about seems to be the moment they come up with this string  idea. If you read the lyrics you will see what I mean.

I would say it is sort of a spin-off song from Basil, Basil revisited so to say. The copy boy from Basil has grown up and became a hard cynical journalist. Melodywise it is not that similar, but the mood is the same.
I needed a few times before this one started to grow on me but it is very good indeed.

LE

I also thought about a cynical journalist but in the end the character says he hates the black tie jobs so maybe it's just a journalist that knows he has to do that job in that way, doing his best, despite he hates doing that.

Yes, I think it is about how uncomfortable it feels to at the funeral as a journalist.

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2024, 04:27:59 PM »
I was very moved by this song. Almost to tears.
I know the way I can see by the moonlight
Clear as the day
Now come on woman, come follow me home

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2024, 06:48:48 PM »
I was very moved by this song. Almost to tears.

I get that, very moving song indeed especially with the beautiful guitar lead....
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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2024, 03:13:04 PM »
Funny how different it can be. It's skipper no 1.
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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2024, 03:52:09 PM »
Funny how different it can be. It's skipper no 1.

A skipper on ODR - no way....
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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2024, 04:36:20 PM »
This was the first song I listened to other than the singles.
I think it’s my favourite MK “slower song”
I love it!! Can’t explain why but I just do.

Real strings would have been nice but we’d have had to wait another year….

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Re: (5) Black tie jobs
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2024, 05:29:40 PM »
For me this is the gem of the album and it touches me very much.
I know the way I can see by the moonlight
Clear as the day
Now come on woman, come follow me home

 

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