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Author Topic: (6) Tunnel 13  (Read 12520 times)

OfflineDutchessy

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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2024, 10:46:13 AM »
Fair enough :) I'm glad there are songs for everbody on all MK albums.
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2024, 08:54:48 PM »
I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL

I know exactly what you mean and I thought about it. The complete lyrics are in the style of a street ballad (in German an ancient word would be "Moritat".).The street Balladeer tells the listeners stories about evil bloody crimes (the character in Madame Geneva would be such a person). The end is always moralizing, judging. I think MK takes the role of a balladeer here. Though the words of these people were rhyming, they were not seen as a very high art, and with this in mind his somewhat "unpoetic" last sentence about his guitar makes perfect sense to me. I hope I make myself clear. It is done on purpose as a stylistic device.

I listened a couple of times now and it is growing on me (Dutchessy  :wave  ;D)

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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2024, 09:45:03 PM »
Dieses alte Rotholz hat eine schrecklichen Geschichte, die zeigt: Selbst blutige Gewalt kann indirekt etwas Positives bewirken. Denn das Material für meine Gitarren stammt aus dem Tunnel – dem Schienenholz von damals. Es hat eine unglaublich gute Qualität und einen makabren Hintergrund: Ein grausames Verbrechen


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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2024, 09:50:49 PM »
I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL

I know exactly what you mean and I thought about it. The complete lyrics are in the style of a street ballad (in German an ancient word would be "Moritat".).The street Balladeer tells the listeners stories about evil bloody crimes (the character in Madame Geneva would be such a person). The end is always moralizing, judging. I think MK takes the role of a balladeer here. Though the words of these people were rhyming, they were not seen as a very high art, and with this in mind his somewhat "unpoetic" last sentence about his guitar makes perfect sense to me. I hope I make myself clear. It is done on purpose as a stylistic device.

I listened a couple of times now and it is growing on me (Dutchessy  :wave  ;D)

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Listing the names, as he does in Remembrance Day, gives the song a sense of realism and makes the story all the more potent.  That's how I view it anyway.
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2024, 10:07:34 PM »
The way he sings this song reminded me of the way he sings Back to Tupelo and Terminal of Tribute To, a mix of these two, at least for me!
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2024, 10:09:49 PM »
I really can't believe that he include the lines telling the wood of his guitar comes from Tunnel 13, LOL

I know exactly what you mean and I thought about it. The complete lyrics are in the style of a street ballad (in German an ancient word would be "Moritat".).The street Balladeer tells the listeners stories about evil bloody crimes (the character in Madame Geneva would be such a person). The end is always moralizing, judging. I think MK takes the role of a balladeer here. Though the words of these people were rhyming, they were not seen as a very high art, and with this in mind his somewhat "unpoetic" last sentence about his guitar makes perfect sense to me. I hope I make myself clear. It is done on purpose as a stylistic device.

I listened a couple of times now and it is growing on me (Dutchessy  :wave  ;D)

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Listing the names, as he does in Remembrance Day, gives the song a sense of realism and makes the story all the more potent.  That's how I view it anyway.

Indeed, the names made me also think of Remembrance Day immediately. Realism is exactly the right word for what he is trying here. I love when he does that.

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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2024, 10:16:14 PM »
Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2024, 10:55:39 PM »
Emotionally reminiscent of Dream of the Drowned Submariner for me, it hits in a way an MK song hasn't touched me for some time. Great suspenseful, sad lyrics, great musical choices and an easy standout for me so far.

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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2024, 10:41:43 AM »
Even more a very strong contender for 2nd fave track after One Deep River having heard MK talk a little about this track when I saw him in London for the album release event. He spoke passionately about the Redwood used to make his guitars and the connection with tunnel 13...
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2024, 02:48:10 PM »
Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".

Funny story on "slips" here:
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2024, 02:53:24 PM »
Thinking about the redwood... I'm not sure if the connection was intended, but for me there's a parallel to so-called "blood diamonds": diamonds mined in a war zone and sold to finance an insurgency, an invading army's war efforts, terrorism, or a warlord's activity. With the redwood it's similar, if "red" stands for blood.
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2024, 03:52:44 PM »
Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".

Nope...
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2024, 06:04:08 PM »
Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2024, 06:32:47 PM »
Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?

Haven't a clue, sorry.  Recording glitch or mistake by Mark?  I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying.  I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.
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Re: (6) Tunnel 13
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2024, 06:57:21 PM »
Anyone notice a little slip by Mark on the guitar at approximately 2:34 after he sings "fireman Marvin Seng".
There is such a thing. Damn, I didn't notice until I read your post. And what is it in the end, a jamb of mastering/mixing?

Haven't a clue, sorry.  Recording glitch or mistake by Mark?  I can't help but notice it either and it's annoying.  I'm very surprised nobody else has noticed it.

Blimey it's the most miniscules of slips that until dmg said anything I didn't notice myself....
I still have a job to notice it when I keep playing this beautiful track - you have to be really concentrating at the certain point to really notice. Perhaps you notice it more when you're not doing a great deal?!
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