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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #316 on: May 18, 2025, 03:45:20 PM »
I was just listening to the whole live show via my AirPods and I heard that there is a slide guitar in Wild West End I think it is Jack with a glass tube or did they have a lap steel guitar or something?

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #317 on: May 18, 2025, 04:06:36 PM »

in fact, it is the only live R&J with MK's guitar solo officially.


you mean on electric guitar ?  :think ???

The gig from RAH on the SOS comp limited edition features a R&J live version with electric guitar solo too (on Pensa)

I'm referring to the electric guitar solo and I'm not including solo material, I'm referring to Dire Straits releases. Alchemy is done on an acoustic guitar and OTN is Paul Franklin. San Antonio we have Mark doing this solo with his wonderful Schecter sunburst! 🎸🔥
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #318 on: May 18, 2025, 04:07:48 PM »

in fact, it is the only live R&J with MK's guitar solo officially.


you mean on electric guitar ?  :think ???

The gig from RAH on the SOS comp limited edition features a R&J live version with electric guitar solo too (on Pensa)

Roadrunning tour 2006 as well.

I'm not including solo material, I'm referring to Dire Straits releases. Alchemy is done on an acoustic guitar and OTN is Paul Franklin. San Antonio we have Mark doing this solo with his wonderful Schecter sunburst! 🎸🔥
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #319 on: May 18, 2025, 04:30:45 PM »
Other points of reflection I had with this release:

2- San Antonio 85 is more real than Alchemy, and I don't even need to talk about OTN. Rainbow 79 and San Antonio are the only live releases of a Dire Straits show in its entirety. Amen!🙏🏻

Boa tarde Brunno,

Regarding SA more real than Alchemy, are you refering to some MK's banters left out (TOL being the perfect example), the curious case of the altered PB end  and SR coming from another gig ?
Appart from that, I believe Alchemy has always been regarded as one of the (very) few true live album.

But I'm kind of a purist too and I prefer a live album untouched, with mistakes than one "enhanced" in the studio.
The only thing I'm ok with is a mixing that allows you to clearly hear all unstruments.
Regarding the general sound and how it should sound there is no "single source of truth" as it depends on many factors" : the venue and where you are in it, the equipment,  if you have noisy talkers/screamers near you, etc...

There was a tume I used to buy many official live CDs until I heard that most of them are re-worked in the studio, sometimes heavily.
I was kinda schocked when I read that even the Who's Live at Leeds was doctored !
Since then and before the many re-issues I managed to find a copy to download of the bootleg Live at Leeds Complete where everything is left as it is.

When I refer to Alchemy, in this aspect, it is only that historically there have always been four songs missing that were played: ID, LOG, TBTP and PB, which was fixed four decades later. Even so, Alchemy is the result of two consecutive nights, with a few cuts in some versions and a small overdub in Solid Rock, as we know. In parallel, San Antonio is the result of a single night from start to finish, there are no cuts in songs, no absence of music, no overdubs, there is an incredible mix and sound definition, this provides a greater sense of reality, this care and respect in preserving the integrity of the presentation in its entirety, giving us the opportunity to contemplate the show like the lucky ones who were there to watch the event in 1985, this is what truly makes it an authentic record of an era and closes the cycle, IMO.

Of course, like you, I am a purist, I value these aspects, but I fully recognize that most people do not care about this, I am a drop in the ocean. This time we were lucky, as they delivered San Antonio 85 impeccably, congratulations to everyone involved, especially Guy Flecher.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #320 on: May 18, 2025, 04:37:56 PM »
I would love they also deliver a complete '81 show.
Besides Dortmund' 80, Paris 18.06.81 and Werchter were partially (?) filmed. I wonder what could be made of that. Lions, News, SKATEAWAY, Angel of Mercy and Where do you think you're going were outstanding. Let alone the very first versions of TR, valuable from an historical perspective...

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #321 on: May 18, 2025, 05:51:24 PM »
I would love they also deliver a complete '81 show.
Besides Dortmund' 80, Paris 18.06.81 and Werchter were partially (?) filmed. I wonder what could be made of that. Lions, News, SKATEAWAY, Angel of Mercy and Where do you think you're going were outstanding. Let alone the very first versions of TR, valuable from an historical perspective...

Yes! Werchter 5.07.81 here: the echoes of Private Investigations in the song News.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #322 on: May 18, 2025, 06:00:06 PM »
I have only one reservation about the performance in San Antonio. I miss Your Latest Trick. But you can't have everything
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #323 on: May 18, 2025, 07:04:07 PM »
Listened to San Antonio several times today, absolutely great, show, mix, set list, everything!   Thank you Guy!

Now next: Vaison 1996 mixed by Guy the same way. Next year 30th anniversary of MK's first solo album. I am sure the tapes are somewhere. ..  8)

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #324 on: May 18, 2025, 07:19:52 PM »
Listened to San Antonio several times today, absolutely great, show, mix, set list, everything!   Thank you Guy!

Now next: Vaison 1996 mixed by Guy the same way. Next year 30th anniversary of MK's first solo album. I am sure the tapes are somewhere. ..  8)

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Yes, it's a great idea. My God, 30 years? When 3 decades passed...
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #325 on: May 18, 2025, 07:53:31 PM »
Did somebody have heard something about SDE shop? Are orders already been sent out? I have only my confirmed order from March...
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #326 on: May 18, 2025, 08:36:46 PM »
Listened to San Antonio several times today, absolutely great, show, mix, set list, everything!   Thank you Guy!

Now next: Vaison 1996 mixed by Guy the same way. Next year 30th anniversary of MK's first solo album. I am sure the tapes are somewhere. ..  8)

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Same here. It's been such a pleasure to listen to this fantastic SA gig. Mark and the band were on the top of their game.
And yes, Guy really did a great job.  :thumbsup
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #327 on: May 19, 2025, 07:48:03 AM »
Did somebody have heard something about SDE shop? Are orders already been sent out? I have only my confirmed order from March...

You should receive an email from SDE Shop to confirm a 'shipment from order'

I received an email from SDE shop on Friday and the Blu-ray is being delivered today....
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #328 on: May 19, 2025, 09:36:05 AM »
Hmm. No shipping email for me yet.

I believe the SDE shop is a one man operation so I guess it takes a bit of time.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #329 on: May 19, 2025, 09:37:43 AM »
Did somebody have heard something about SDE shop? Are orders already been sent out? I have only my confirmed order from March...

You should receive an email from SDE Shop to confirm a 'shipment from order'

I received an email from SDE shop on Friday and the Blu-ray is being delivered today....
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You're lucky. I have received nothing since March, whereas it said "shipping on (last) friday". Makes me grumpy.

 

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