A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: jbaent on July 04, 2012, 11:06:11 AM
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I thought that it was a good idea to open a thread to talk specifically about the deluxe editions of Privateering
I found on this site http://auspop.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/australian-cd-new-release-schedule-june_21.html (http://auspop.blogspot.com.es/2012/06/australian-cd-new-release-schedule-june_21.html) the following information:
August 31
Mark Knopfler
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Cool. I want them all! ;D
And this time I won't bother around with Deluxe or not Deluxe and stuff....
LE
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Great news as long as they're not exclusively available down under.
:)
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I stick to the same principle I followed with Get Lucky release. If the box contains everything you can get if you buy any of the other two editions, I
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Imho, the total (emotional) value of the content in the GL box didn't by any means match the price. Box-exclusive songs always has a tendancy to fly around, sooner or later. The videos were tubed and what was left could never justify the difference in pricing between the Deluxe version and Box set.
This time around I'm not settling for bits of plastic and paper and an LP that you most certainly know won't ever be played (the poker chips might still be some of the priciest in the world).
There better be a Madrid DVD or "official live recording" lying around post-unboxing ;D
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I agree with that, the content of the box was crap 100%, not by itself but because it was very over-priced.
I guess that the box, if there is a box in the end, will contain the vinyl version, and if Get Lucky had two vinyls, Privateering must have between three and four of them in order to contain 20 songs!!! And probably the 3cd deluxe edition, and some other stuff...
What other stuff? This is when I repeat the joke about the mini van and the mini dog ;D
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The Dutch website Bol.com talks about a 2 disc "Deluxe": http://www.bol.com/nl/p/privateering-deluxe/1000004012376683/
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The Dutch website Bol.com talks about a 2 disc "Deluxe": http://www.bol.com/nl/p/privateering-deluxe/1000004012376683/
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Strange... I have just e-mailed Universal in Norway asking for some information on this, although I don't know if they will answer. If they do, you will know :)
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I stick to the same principle I followed with Get Lucky release. If the box contains everything you can get if you buy any of the other two editions, I
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The Dutch website Bol.com talks about a 2 disc "Deluxe": http://www.bol.com/nl/p/privateering-deluxe/1000004012376683/
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Thank you for the link of Bol.com Camerado! ;)
I wonder what this will be, because they call this : "Privateering - Deluxe" and mention 2 CD's for the price of Euro 30,99.
In the first message of Jbaent they are talking about Deluxe edition 3Cd's!
Well we have to wait to see what really is meant with "Deluxe". ::)
Fieneke
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Funny you should mention box sets,I was up in the attic a few days ago & I came across some MK back stage passes stickers that I got with something or other so I dont think I'll be shelling out for the "dog tags" (joke :P) that may come with the privateering box set as in my own case they end up gathering dust somewhere.I went in to my local music store today for a look around & I picked up the Paul Simon 25th anniversary edition of Graceland with a dvd for
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According to CDON.com, the third CD in the Deluxe Edition includes this:
Disc 3
1: Why Aye Man
2: Cleaning My Gun (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
3: Corned Beef City (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
4: Sailing To Philadelphia (Bonus CD)
5: Hill Farmer's Blues (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
http://cdon.no/musikk/knopfler_mark/privateering_(deluxe_edition)_(3cd)-20993837
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According to CDON.com, the third CD in the Deluxe Edition includes this:
Disc 3
1: Why Aye Man
2: Cleaning My Gun (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
3: Corned Beef City (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
4: Sailing To Philadelphia (Bonus CD)
5: Hill Farmer's Blues (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
http://cdon.no/musikk/knopfler_mark/privateering_(deluxe_edition)_(3cd)-20993837
I don't really understand what they provide. Live recordings? We should mix the recordings ourselves? ;D
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I guess that could mean "just stereo" (2-track). And it's obvious setlist-wise that we will have some official live recording from the 2011 tour. I think it's great! Although Privateering and Haul Away also should have been included!
LE
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According to CDON.com, the third CD in the Deluxe Edition includes this:
Disc 3
1: Why Aye Man
2: Cleaning My Gun (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
3: Corned Beef City (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
4: Sailing To Philadelphia (Bonus CD)
5: Hill Farmer's Blues (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
http://cdon.no/musikk/knopfler_mark/privateering_(deluxe_edition)_(3cd)-20993837
I don't really understand what they provide. Live recordings? We should mix the recordings ourselves? ;D
Agreed... A bit strange mix of songs, old and new, mixed and un-mixed... :P
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According to CDON.com, the third CD in the Deluxe Edition includes this:
Disc 3
1: Why Aye Man
2: Cleaning My Gun (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
3: Corned Beef City (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
4: Sailing To Philadelphia (Bonus CD)
5: Hill Farmer's Blues (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
http://cdon.no/musikk/knopfler_mark/privateering_(deluxe_edition)_(3cd)-20993837
I don't really understand what they provide. Live recordings? We should mix the recordings ourselves? ;D
Agreed... A bit strange mix of songs, old and new, mixed and un-mixed... :P
But track 2, 3 and 5 say that it is a CD itself, because it says: 'bonus cd' other than the other ones who are just songs I think ???
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Dublin or Rotterdam ? ::)
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Didn't Simfy clearify their recording by using the term "unmixed"?
Maybe they are into these tracks as well?
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Hello;
I found a few minutes ago at www.ebay.it the preorder of Privateering in double vinyl edition. Can you confirm this posibility? I have internet mobile and is very poor.
Thanks and sorry for my bad english lol.
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Didn't Simfy clearify their recording by using the term "unmixed"?
Maybe they are into these tracks as well?
I would be very surprised to see simfy involved.
These people just disappeared without giving any chance to buy the missing ones (I mean I have no problem to buy 50 or even 1000 recordings but I wouldn't do it within one year).
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Hello;
I found a few minutes ago at www.ebay.it the preorder of Privateering in double vinyl edition. Can you confirm this posibility? I have internet mobile and is very poor.
Thanks and sorry for my bad english lol.
Yes, CDON.com also offers 2LP edition, so I suppose it will be released in that format too :)
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If there are no poker chips included, I'll never buy it.
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If there are no poker chips included, I'll never buy it.
Or a mini van
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...and a dog.
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And a broken tyre...
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bit dissapointed by the deluxe content. but let's wait and see. anyhoo, we get a double cd peeps,...!!
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These five tracks have to come from the last tour - this constellation is too obvious... But you are right of course, the concerts that Mark did were not longer than 70, 75 minutes. They could have deleted one or two songs, instead they come up with just the first songs in a row - not very original...
BUT, don't forget: This news about the bonus CD is not confirmed yet, so we should better wait and see. That's the best thing MK fans can do. Wait and see...
LE
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The problem with putting the whole concert on the bonus disc is it will give away the set list for the next tour. ;D
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The problem with putting the whole concert on the bonus disc is it will give away the set list for the next tour. ;D
Yes, because they can
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I have an update about the box, from a 100% reliable source that e-mailed it at the Spanish City Mailing List:
The box includes the vinyls, the cds, a numbered postcard/picture, a dvd with an interview, a code to download a full concert and other stuff not specified.
He also mentions that the live songs comes from the Dylan Tour rehearsals (I guess it means the songs from the third cd)
I dont mention his name because I dont know if he wants me to do that, but its 100% reliable. If you are reading this, say hi!
:)
Ps/ Thanks
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These Dylan tour rehearsals sound most interesting...
The full concert download sound great too of course. My guess would be Rome.
Hi, oh and thanks very much!
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That sounds great. Thanks for the info.
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Great news. Def. going for the box now!
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Great news. Def. going for the box now!
Yes, it sounds like interesting stuff, really.
Don
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Great news. Def. going for the box now!
Yes, it sounds like interesting stuff, really.
Don
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That would be a great box that's worth the price, whatever the price is !!! ;D
Not like the previous one.
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hi.
as they recorded all shows, i don't understand why they do not offer all shows using the download code (select the show you WANNA hear)
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hi.
as they recorded all shows, i don't understand why they do not offer all shows using the download code (select the show you WANNA hear)
Yes, but not ALL the shows were performed exactly as they'd have liked them to be!
If they did as you suggest it would be very interesting to see download stats for all the gigs...
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hi.
as they recorded all shows, i don't understand why they do not offer all shows using the download code (select the show you WANNA hear)
Yes, but not ALL the shows were performed exactly as they'd have liked them to be!
If they did as you suggest it would be very interesting to see download stats for all the gigs...
i realy would like to see the dowlnoad stats for the simfy shows by the way.
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So, yet another story of "you need to buy an expensive big box with plenty of items you don't care about just to get a few things you would like".
I have been there with the GL box, just to get 3 songs, with DSOTM, WYWH and the Wall boxes, to get a few live tracks (and a scarf, and dices, and other stupidities) and now, the Privateering box to get.... a download coupon ?? not even a CD ??
And the Bonus CD has... 5 songs ?
There would be so many opportunities, in these modern times, to release nice live stuff in convenient ways. So many wasted opportunities... we could have had a least a DVD from Madrid 2001 (but I guess Mark considers this as old stuff, messy hair and loud spanish crowd). Or at least get access to all the audio recordings 2005-2011....
I guess we shoud not complain, anyawy, we still have a (certainly wonderful) double studio album...
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The prices according cdon.com would be something like that:
- Standard 2cd version: 19.81 euros (149 kr)
- Deluxe 3cd version: 34.44 euros (259 kr)
- LP version: 34.44 euros (259 kr)
That would be assuming that kr means norwegian currency
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There is no price yet in any site for the deluxe box but let me guess a price of at least 70 euros (the price of the 3cd version plus the vinyls version). Increase it a little because of the other goodies and I guess it will be around 80-90 euros...
Just my guess.
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Thanks Jbeant
Great info on the boxset !!, I will go for that as well. I just hope I can get the LP
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If those prices for the box set are real, then I'll get it too, I did buy the Get Lucky box set, and that cost more, so we'll see.
The thing about the whole deluxe release thing is, fans always want more, but has been seen with the Pink Floyd and Mike Oldfield deluxe releases, you can't please everyone, personally I'm not one of those people who moans about it, I take the view, If I like what I see, I'll buy it, if not, I won't buy it. Also, I don't want to see EVERYTHING released, I like the idea of always wanting more, and knowing that an artist has more rarities locked away that may one day see the light of day. I mean look at The Beatles, even though with the 3 double CD's Anthology releases, there are still lot's more songs unreleased that fans know about, and when It's all out there, what is there left to look forward too? There are lot's of MK/DS gems not released yet either, but with time they will be, I'm sure of it.
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The problem with those boxes is that you pay a bomb, not get what you pay for - you get a few things you really want (e.g. unreleased live tracks, blu-ray high-res and multicanal album version) and A LOT of stupid stuff that NOBODY wants.
I have yet to find a single Pink Floyd fan who was craving for a few dices, pocket chips, cheap scarf, tickets duplicata... and pay 100
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I agree with that, but I think with the Get Lucky box set, it was more a novelty thing, as It was the first time in Mark's musical output we had a box set like it, but your right, I don't own an LP anymore, so they will never get played I guess, but for avid collectors, there is a market for it. And personaly I love EVERYTHING Mark has done, so I buy as much as I can, but everyone is different :)
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What was that fake ticket in the GL box about? Why would anyone want that?
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What was that fake ticket in the GL box about? Why would anyone want that?
Officially, it was a replica of the Shepperd Bush 1996 MK concert...
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What was that fake ticket in the GL box about? Why would anyone want that?
Officially, it was a replica of the Shepperd Bush 1996 MK concert...
Yeah but why? It makes very little sense to me. ;D
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What was that fake ticket in the GL box about? Why would anyone want that?
Officially, it was a replica of the Shepperd Bush 1996 MK concert...
Yeah but why? It makes very little sense to me. ;D
Absolutly not any sense.
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Boxes, boxes, boxes. I am the first to call them stupid and expensive, but also the first to go and buy them if I have the money. About GL, I guess you all know but let's put things in perspective about the releases:
1.single CD-original price 16Euros
2.double CD-original price 20 Euros
3.Deluxe boxset-original price 100+ Euros (important notice, the vinyl edition came WITHOUT jacket)
4.Vinyl edition-original price 35 Euros
So if somebody wanted all editions, he should part with around 170 Euros. Now you can check and see the current price for each and every edition. The cost (they are all still available, or easily traceable) would be less than 100 Euros. I like the feeling of having something hard to find from my favourite artist, but I get the feeling that the amounts of special edition box sets manufactured, were much greater than the price can justify. The same thing happened with the Dylan bootleg series no.8 It was released in 4 Editions:
1.Single CD-14 Euros
2.double CD-19 Euros
3. triple CD-100 Euros
4.Vinyl edition, containing the songs of the double CD edition.100+Euros
Dylan's release was crazy each edition, actually had more songs(different versions but still), so it made absolutely no sense. The triple CD which was the complete edition, songs wise, came with a hard back book, with photos of some of the singles worldwide. Now, I bought the edition 2 years after the release for 50 Euros. What makes things worse is that Dylan's Sony site, offered the edition, as pre-sale at the high price with the bait that some of them will be sent to the happy customers, with the addition of a specially cut 7''. So if you felt like gambling for more you had to pre-order at the inflated original price. Brian Wilson did something similar, 10 years ago, when he offered through his site, his then new album for sale. He said, that every second record-customer sold would be signed!And the question was, "if I buy 2 CDs would I get one autographed for sure, or is it by order-customer?"
Back to MK. I guess the reason for dividing the songs in single CDs even if the extra songs fitted in the 2CDs of the original version, is simply because they can cut the same CDs for all editions, (only the labels change) and at the same time divide what was the original concept of what we call "album" from the extras. Of course, in an older thread, we were talking about re-issues of the DS albums with extra tracks, and the integrity of MK that said that if they weren't good at the time of the original release, they are still no good. So what is the story now? I am pleased to see more songs released, but since I buy the deluxe edition, this is my view of the album, extra songs and all. That is why I don't get the special editions with extra songs, and the standard editions. I see them just as ways to sell, overpriced material. You overprice desire. Maybe I am too harsh, and it all comes down to you want it, buy it-you don't want it, don't buy it.
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I sympathize to a certain extent with that point, vgonis.
My point of talking about boxes, boxes, boxes is more that I don't want to miss something by buying too early. If I decide to buy the 3CD edition and then later learn that there is a voucher for a complete live concert download in the deluxe box, I would be unhappy to have missed that. Also the EPK is not really a "Deluxe" object, but I want to have it. The vinyl are totally redundant. I don't even know a person I could give them as a present, because not many people listen to vinyl these days. But I do not want to buy all three releases, but the best one. So I am eagerly waiting for some more info about the Super Deluxe Box edition.
So double album together with bonus CD with 5 live songs and download code for live concert? Yes I am in for that! :)
LE
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I do have all the vinyl from the beginning (albums only, singles I have a lot but not all) so I also want to have the new vinyl in my collection. That's why I also want to wait till it's clear what's in de super de luxe edition. I want it all and I hope they don't add stupid things like chips and fake concerttickets in it. That's really useless.
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you have time until 31.08 to cancel your 3cd box LE.
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It would have been a nice idea if the record company had contacted GF and asked him (since he is in contact with hardcore fans through his forum), just what they would like to be included in any potential box set. This would surely be great for the fans as well as boosting sales and surely wouldn't be too difficult.
Obviously they wouldn't be able to please us on every front but I reckon we would end up with a product that would include some very attractive stuff... :P
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It would have been a nice idea if the record company had contacted GF and asked him (since he is in contact with hardcore fans through his forum), just what they would like to be included in any potential box set. This would surely be great for the fans as well as boosting sales and surely wouldn't be too difficult.
Obviously they wouldn't be able to please us on every front but I reckon we would end up with a product that would include some very attractive stuff... :P
This is surely the most succinct and insightful comment on box set related matters ?
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My initial idea about the GL vinyls was to sell them and get back some of the money, but when I got the box... I thought that the vinyls have to be inside, even I wont listen to them never, but... its like they belong there.
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The problem with putting the whole concert on the bonus disc is it will give away the set list for the next tour. ;D
Thanks, friends, for the laughs. Seriously. :lol
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I do have all the vinyl from the beginning (albums only, singles I have a lot but not all) so I also want to have the new vinyl in my collection. That's why I also want to wait till it's clear what's in de super de luxe edition. I want it all and I hope they don't add stupid things like chips and fake concerttickets in it. That's really useless.
I agree, ingridswing. MK fans are devoted and have stayed with his music for years and years. We really deserve better. These are kind of like little carnival souvenirs.
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I'd like to comment on vgonis's notes on the varying editions of album releases (see #52 above). Sorry for the delay but I find it hard to locate particular threads after they've been moved.
To start at the end, I agree with vgonis's conclusion: nobody forces you to buy anything, let alone multiple editions of basically the same thing. You buy what you want and what you can afford. If you don't want it or cannot afford it, don't buy it. I accept that there are some who may want something so badly that they will buy it even though they cannot really afford it. That is unwise but it is their choice.
If you don't want to read about our experience with a Dylan De Luxe edition, just skip the following italicised paragraphs and move to the end of this post.
Moving to the various editions of Dylan's BOOTLEG SERIES Volume 8 (Tell Tale Signs), there was a certain logic behind this. The standard release was the double-CD, to match nearly all the previous Bootleg Series releases. The single-CD version was intended for the Christmas market - sons to buy for their dads etc etc.
I said "nearly all the previous Bootleg Series releases" and the exception was the first one, confusingly called BOOTLEG SERIES Volumes 1-3, which was a triple-CD set. This was similar to Volume 8 in that both were entitled "RARE & UNRELEASED" and both consisted of material drawn from across a period of time. BOOTLEG SERIES Volumes 1-3 (released in 1991) covered 1961-1991 (though this was a bit of a cheat in that it contained one song recorded in 1989 but overdubbed in 1991) and Bootleg Series Volume 8 covered 1989 - 2006. The triple-CD version of Volume 8 was intended to "match" Bootleg Series Volumes 1-3 in scope and reach, to establish that latter-day Dylan was as productive as ever and, by including several versions of some songs, to demonstrate how he worked at his art.
The vinyl edition (the double CD spead over 4 LPs) was for audiophiles -a high-quality, low quantity, high-price market. This brings me on to the question of pricing.
About a year before BOOTLEG SERIES Volume 8 was released, the UK arm of Sony had produced a compilation of existing material, simply called "DYLAN", in three versions - a single CD, a double-CD and a triple-CD in a small box with a few extras. This had been rather looked down upon by the Sony executives in New York but it sold very well. Although many fans regarded it as superfluous, there was a strong marketing push behind it with an emphasis on new media. Its big impact was said to be that it introduced more younger people to Dylan. With this in mind and with the sales of some of their jazz box-sets also, Sony New York felt that could something similar with BOOTLEG SERIES Volume 8. They included a 3rd CD of "rare and unreleased" (12 tracks in all), placed the 3 CDs in a hard back book and included a second hardback book of images, all housed in thick card box. And they thought they could charge a fortune for it. The backlash was immediate. It was seen as exploitative. The criticism was very vocal. It didn't sell as well as expected and this is why, later on, you could buy it much more cheaply.
I doubt very much that Sony will try something similar with Dylan releases for quite a while. I may be wrong, as there are always new execs coming along who have not learned the lessons of the past.
In addition to this, I know that Dylan's management were unhappy with what happened, though they don't always control this sort of thing.
The moral of the story is this. If you feel you're being exploited by the way new releases are marketed, then simply don't buy them. If it happens, be vocal - complain to the record company, complain to PCM, complain on GF's website, vent your anger on MK News. Make your dissatisfaction known. Bombard them with your adverse comments. You are the customer. The best course of action is to withhold your custom.
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I found this info about the Deluxe Edition (3 disks) on the Bol.com site.
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/privateering/1000004012376683/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/privateering/1000004012376683/)
So if this information is right, the 3rd cd on the deluxe edition is a live cd from the last tour (with Dylan)? :D
And would this also be included in the super deluxe edition? Hope it is! ;D
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Very interesting, thanks for that info. No Speedway, Sonny Liston, Privateering[!] so this isn't much of a concert. Let's hope the download is at least complete but it'll probably be low grade mp3 quality. ::)
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I was wondering the same thing, we know they record every concert, so it's not that there aren't good recordings for those songs. I still like this though, but we still have no complete concert from Mark as a official release (CD or DVD), from the recent shows (saying that is, from Sailing to Philadelphia up to now).
Indeed, let's hope we can download at least a complete concert. :) And let's surely hope that this bonus cd is not the download for the Super Deluxe edition! :P
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Hmm thanks for the link to bol.com.
There is one thing that makes me wonder.
The album will be released in 4 different versions:
* 2 CD standard version
* Deluxe 2 CD + Bonus Disc
* Super Deluxe Box: standard CD + 2LP Vinyl + Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks + EPK DVD + Numbered art print + Credit Card with exclusive download code for a full concert
* 2 LP vinyl
But the deluxe version has 7 numbers on it:
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
So will the box set have 10 songs on that disc, or should we buy the deluxe version and the box to have it all complete? It does say 3 EXTRA tracks, but do we remember the GL versions? And then we all had to buy the iTunes version for those two extra songs?
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Hmm thanks for the link to bol.com.
There is one thing that makes me wonder.
The album will be released in 4 different versions:
* 2 CD standard version
* Deluxe 2 CD + Bonus Disc
* Super Deluxe Box: standard CD + 2LP Vinyl + Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks + EPK DVD + Numbered art print + Credit Card with exclusive download code for a full concert
* 2 LP vinyl
But the deluxe version has 7 numbers on it:
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
So will the box set have 10 songs on that disc, or should we buy the deluxe version and the box to have it all complete? It does say 3 EXTRA tracks, but do we remember the GL versions? And then we all had to buy the iTunes version for those two extra songs?
I guess you're right.
I don't like.
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So will the box set have 10 songs on that disc, or should we buy the deluxe version and the box to have it all complete? It does say 3 EXTRA tracks, but do we remember the GL versions? And then we all had to buy the iTunes version for those two extra songs?
Well bonus means extra, so a bonus disc with extra tracks is double bonus right? haha. Well let's hope it is. :)
Because yes, it was really irritating the last time with GL.
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Hmm thanks for the link to bol.com.
There is one thing that makes me wonder.
The album will be released in 4 different versions:
* 2 CD standard version
* Deluxe 2 CD + Bonus Disc
* Super Deluxe Box: standard CD + 2LP Vinyl + Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks + EPK DVD + Numbered art print + Credit Card with exclusive download code for a full concert
* 2 LP vinyl
But the deluxe version has 7 numbers on it:
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
So will the box set have 10 songs on that disc, or should we buy the deluxe version and the box to have it all complete? It does say 3 EXTRA tracks, but do we remember the GL versions? And then we all had to buy the iTunes version for those two extra songs?
I guess you're right.
I don't like.
Me too.
Neither me.
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Haha, bol.com got an e-mail from me to ask if it was right what was said about the deluxe edition (then it said only 2 CD's)
They didn't answer so far but changed it anyway.
But no superdeluxe on bol.com so far ::) ::) ??? ???
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Well, if you stand for the exact information provided:
* Super Deluxe Box: standard CD + 2LP Vinyl + Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks + EPK DVD + Numbered art print + Credit Card with exclusive download code for a full concert
The superdeluxe includes the standard cd, so the 2cd with 20 songs, and a bonus cd with 3 songs...
If the deluxe cd includes 7 songd, the maths are clear... there are 4 songs less in the superdeluxe than in the deluxe...
Quite strange, isnt it?
;D ;D ;D
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surely its 7 +3 extra tracks on the bonus cd .Seems a bit petty to me should just put all the tracks on the bonus cd.The dvd and live show are enough to get people to buy.
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I suppose the three bonus songs are like the GL deluxe box: additional studio recordings. The "live" CD with 7 songs is left out of the box (why???) and instead you get a download? Something like that?
Pity Done with Bonaparte isn't on the live CD... ::) ;D
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I suppose the three bonus songs are like the GL deluxe box: additional studio recordings. The "live" CD with 7 songs is left out of the box (why???) and instead you get a download? Something like that?
Pity Done with Bonaparte isn't on the live CD... ::) ;D
Next tour he will sing Done with Alan Clark :P
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Salvador said I got him in trouble last time with the design from the GL box. So no sneak preview this time!
https://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign/status/225908161461252096 (https://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign/status/225908161461252096)
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Dunno if it was posted yet...
But here's an idea of the different prices http://recherche.fnac.com/Search/SearchResult.aspx?SCat=0!1&Search=privateering&sft=1&submitbtn=OK
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Wow... 105 euros...
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Salvador said I got him in trouble last time with the design from the GL box. So no sneak preview this time!
https://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign/status/225908161461252096 (https://twitter.com/SalvadorDesign/status/225908161461252096)
But it was nice from you to ask! Very much appreciated! ;)
LE
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105 euro ! I think Amazon will be cheaper ! FNAC always have high prices !
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105 euro ! I think Amazon will be cheaper ! FNAC always have high prices !
If you find it cheaper, we will refund you the difference - Thats what they say :o
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105 euro ! I think Amazon will be cheaper ! FNAC always have high prices !
As a visitor to France on holiday I personally love the FNAC stores; they are everything HMV should be.
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Just ordered the deluxe box in my favourite store. They only order this one for me. They didn't know the price yet but said that it had to be around 100 Euro.
But if you live in the UK I would order mine at HMV, and hope to win the signed fender : http://hmv.com/hmvweb/navigate.do?pPageID=5070
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105 euro ! I think Amazon will be cheaper ! FNAC always have high prices !
As a visitor to France on holiday I personally love the FNAC stores; they are everything HMV should be.
Funny, I was exactly wishing we had HMV and not FNAC. ;D
FNAC used to be great in the 80's , we could find anything.
John Illsley's albums... for example.
I remember I could easily find Never told a soul in Paris 25 years ago...
Things have changed.
Recently I wanted to buy a copy of Real Live Roadrunning and I couldn't find.
The saleslady explained me, not nicely, that what I was trying to buy was ATTR.
And she knew better than me. :disbelief
I won't tell you the story when they accused ME of stealing a f***g box of 10 blank DVD's !!!!
I don't like FNAC but I will buy my copy of Privateering there. There's even a chance they have it before august 31st.. 8)
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105 euro ! I think Amazon will be cheaper ! FNAC always have high prices !
As a visitor to France on holiday I personally love the FNAC stores; they are everything HMV should be.
Funny, I was exactly wishing we had HMV and not FNAC. ;D
FNAC used to be great in the 80's , we could find anything.
John Illsley's albums... for example.
I remember I could easily find Never told a soul in Paris 25 years ago...
Things have changed.
Recently I wanted to buy a copy of Real Live Roadrunning and I couldn't find.
The saleslady explained me, not nicely, that what I was trying to buy was ATTR.
And she knew better than me. :disbelief
I won't tell you the story when they accused ME of stealing a f***g box of 10 blank DVD's !!!!
I don't like FNAC but I will buy my copy of Privateering there. There's even a chance they have it before august 31st.. 8)
I think it's only the Cannes and Paris branches I have experience of. HMV have - in the past couple of years - started selling some small electrical equipment like iPod docks, tablets, headphones etc. Still a long way to go though to catch up to FNAC in my opinion where they sell all sorts and I found a lot of rare CD's, DVD's and imports too.
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Actually If i find cheaper I'll buy where it will be the cheapest...
Not at all a FNAC fan... :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
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Actually If i find cheaper I'll buy where it will be the cheapest...
Not at all a FNAC fan... :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I used to be a FNAC fan when they opened in Valencia about ten years ago (maybe more) as they had a lot of cds, dvds etc etc and at very very cheap prices, but that was long ago.
They still have many cds at cheap prices, selection of classics of many bands and they change it from time to time, so if you find the bargain, its a good deal, but that Fnac is not what used to be... well, nothing is :(
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Actually If i find cheaper I'll buy where it will be the cheapest...
Not at all a FNAC fan... :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I used to be a FNAC fan when they opened in Valencia about ten years ago (maybe more) as they had a lot of cds, dvds etc etc and at very very cheap prices, but that was long ago.
They still have many cds at cheap prices, selection of classics of many bands and they change it from time to time, so if you find the bargain, its a good deal, but that Fnac is not what used to be... well, nothing is :(
Remember how bad are CDs sales. You can't put money in huge stock anymore.
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It would be interesting to see how different artists sales breakdown into format. I would suspect that MK still sells CD's significantly over downloads purely because of his fan base.
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It would be interesting to see how different artists sales breakdown into format. I would suspect that MK still sells CD's significantly over downloads purely because of his fan base.
Very true. I can't see any of us on here only purchasing his album as a download. This makes his record sales figures even more impressive.
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It would be interesting to see how different artists sales breakdown into format. I would suspect that MK still sells CD's significantly over downloads purely because of his fan base.
Very true. I can't see any of us on here only purchasing his album as a download. This makes his record sales figures even more impressive.
What record sales figures?
How much did GL?
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interesting the total sold number got up to 135.used to be 120 (million wiseasses) for "decades"
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Agree Pottel. It didn't matter what article you
ever read, it always quoted the 120 million fig.
Where did you read about the upgrade to 135 million?
If so, very interesting & about bloody time. :)
Cheers. BBB
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In the official press release
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So can we assume this is only updated every 15 million sales then! Next time it'll be 150 million!
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Lol. But seriously, where do I find (amazon if possible) the 100
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Lol. But seriously, where do I find (amazon if possible) the 100
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"la page n'existe pas..."
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http://musique.fnac.com/a4563367/Mark-Knopfler-Privateering-Edition-super-deluxe-CD-Vinyl-DVD-CD-album
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In the official press release
Where to find, please? :)
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...and now at amazon Germany, but without prize...
http://www.amazon.de/Privateering-Mark-Knopfler/dp/B008MMFCAG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1342900614&sr=8-5
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Standard Edition (2CD)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37043217
ASIN B0086449YA
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B0086449YA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B0086449YA
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B0086449YA
Vinyl Edition (2LP)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37087785
ASIN B008HOR7UM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7UM
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7UM
Japan SHM (2CD)
Universal Music Japan UICR1098
ASIN B008H7HVBO
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B008H7HVBO
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008H7HVBO
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008H7HVBO
Limited Deluxe Edition (3CD)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37081189
ASIN B008HOR7VQ
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7VQ
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7VQ
Super Deluxe Box Set (3CD+2LP+DVD)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37043231
ASIN B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG 89,99EUR
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.es/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.it/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
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:) ;) Cheers Ustas!!
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:) ;) Cheers Ustas!!
I just wanted to say that Amazon does not display a lot of releases, including Super deluxe boxset. But it's easy to find it by using the ASIN number.
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thnx ustas!!!
does the box have all thatthe normal 3cd also has? (and more obviously)
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but it say "not available"...will need to wait i guess..
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thnx ustas!!!
does the box have all thatthe normal 3cd also has? (and more obviously)
C'mon pottel you are not up to date obviously! ;D
The Super Deluxe Box content has been described widely in the last posts. From memory:
2CD Album
1CD Bonus CD
2LP Vinyl
1DVD EPK
1 Artwork Print
1 Card with a code for a complete live concert download
That are the 6 CD's that some retailers refer to...
LE
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Also there are several synopsis of the bonus CD from deluxe edition, but nobody knows what kind is correct
CDON.eu
1 Why Aye Man
2 Cleaning My Gun (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
3 Corned Beef City (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
4 Sailing To Philadelphia (Bonus CD)
5 Hill Farmer's Blues (Unmixed 2-track) (Bonus CD)
BOL.com
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away
FNAC.com
"Inclus CD live tour 2011"
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Standard Edition (2CD)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37043217
ASIN B0086449YA
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B0086449YA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B0086449YA
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B0086449YA
Vinyl Edition (2LP)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37087785
ASIN B008HOR7UM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7UM
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7UM
Japan SHM (2CD)
Universal Music Japan UICR1098
ASIN B008H7HVBO
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/B008H7HVBO
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008H7HVBO
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008H7HVBO
Limited Deluxe Edition (3CD)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37081189
ASIN B008HOR7VQ
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7VQ
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7VQ
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/asin/B008HOR7VQ EUR 19,99
Super Deluxe Box Set (3CD+2LP+DVD)
Mercury Rec. 06025-37043231
ASIN B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG 89,99EUR
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.es/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
http://www.amazon.it/exec/obidos/asin/B008MMFCAG
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Sorry if this has been up before:
Regarding "1 Card with a code for a complete live concert download"
Has anyone some information as if every customer gets the same option for downloading the same concert - OR
is the coupon code a ticket to download a concert of your own choice out of a string of concerts ??
(lets say to choose one out of 14 concerts or so....)
cheers peter
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That'd be cool. Buuuuuuuuut... the pressure may be too much to bear.
Which one do I chooooooooooooooose?!?!
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Sorry if this has been up before:
Regarding "1 Card with a code for a complete live concert download"
Has anyone some information as if every customer gets the same option for downloading the same concert - OR
is the coupon code a ticket to download a concert of your own choice out of a string of concerts ??
(lets say to choose one out of 14 concerts or so....)
cheers peter
In that case there will be some "conversations"
;D
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;D ;D
Yeah, that is my point. I would definately go for the one in Denmark as we were there of course and he played on 6 Dylan songs If I remember correctly.
If all customers are to download the same concert as only one available, I will not go for the deluxe as that concert will be out there free at some point, sooner or later. Then I see no point in paying 100 EUR for other gadgets I do not need, as LP
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I would love to have the CHOICE to decide which edition to buy! At the moment at HMV, Amazon UK and Play.com the only edition of Privateering is the Standard 2 CD version!
From Amazon uk regarding my enquiry of the Super Deluxe Box Set:
Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock. :disbelief
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Hey I just bought a second hand 70s turntable (I already had a great phono amp and speakers) and I grabbed two old records from the shop too (which the guy let me have for free-he knows I'll be back!)
I just played Queens A Day At The Races - awesome! And I got the first DS LP.
I'm gonna be a super deluxe man!!!!
Honestly, the crackle and warmth off 'old' vinyl is beautiful! Just one our of listening to old records again is heaven!
My next task is to track down the vinyl BIA, which (I think) has a superior mix of MFN and SFA. Woo Hoo!
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Hey I just bought a second hand 70s turntable (I already had a great phono amp and speakers) and I grabbed two old records from the shop too (which the guy let me have for free-he knows I'll be back!)
I just played Queens A Day At The Races - awesome! And I got the first DS LP.
I'm gonna be a super deluxe man!!!!
Honestly, the crackle and warmth off 'old' vinyl is beautiful! Just one our of listening to old records again is heaven!
My next task is to track down the vinyl BIA, which (I think) has a superior mix of MFN and SFA. Woo Hoo!
I have near all DS in vinyl as well as CD. I can recognize your view, and its tantalizing and retro ;D
but in the daily listening, I would steer clear of the vinyl ;)
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Oh yeah, it's not 'convenient' but listening to the first LP again like this is Amazing!!!
I wonder now, if anyone who has a phono set-up at home, bothers with the CDs? If I'm home I can't imagine hearing the record any warmer/sweeter, more vibe than what im hearing right now!
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The Super Deluxe Box Set (LP , DVD, CD) will be released in Germany at August 31st. :D , you can buy it at amazon.de for
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Oh yeah, it's not 'convenient' but listening to the first LP again like this is Amazing!!!
I wonder now, if anyone who has a phono set-up at home, bothers with the CDs? If I'm home I can't imagine hearing the record any warmer/sweeter, more vibe than what im hearing right now!
To anyone thinking of investing in a turntable in order to actually take advantage of the vinyl, there are great bargains to be had in used hi-fi equipment on eBay. Technics were always pretty good for consumers and deejays alike. Here's a nice one with only 6 hours to go. Wonder how much it goes for...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TECHNICS-SL-5200-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-/280924577965?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item416868e0ad#ht_532wt_1128
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I`m just thinkung about the charts. P (2 CDs) on place 252 at amazon cd-charts in Germany. And that is BEFORE release ! What do you think, does the quantity of sold Deluxe/Super-Deluxe etc .- editions count for the charts as well ? Maybe we all buy Deluxe-editions and therefore P won`t reach Nr. 1 in the charts :( ?
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If, besides the download card, there are more concerts to download, I will buy some if Im allowed
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Oh yeah, it's not 'convenient' but listening to the first LP again like this is Amazing!!!
I wonder now, if anyone who has a phono set-up at home, bothers with the CDs? If I'm home I can't imagine hearing the record any warmer/sweeter, more vibe than what im hearing right now!
To anyone thinking of investing in a turntable in order to actually take advantage of the vinyl, there are great bargains to be had in used hi-fi equipment on eBay. Technics were always pretty good for consumers and deejays alike. Here's a nice one with only 6 hours to go. Wonder how much it goes for...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TECHNICS-SL-5200-DIRECT-DRIVE-TURNTABLE-/280924577965?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item416868e0ad#ht_532wt_1128
Yeah go second hand, the stuff built in the 70s was built to last and not always designed to shareholder profit. :( Obviously there are new high quality turntables, BUT, to build them these days does cost a fortune and so you pay for it!
A good local store, will give a short warranty and also can repair stuff - my CEC turntable from 19?? Cost $300AU - it seriously amazed me last night.
The thing about this process is there are NO ones and zeros between the recording and what you hear (unless you amplify digitally - don't do this) on OLD records. We also played the reissue Wish You Were Hear LP last night, and it was nice, but didn't have the same lo-fidelity warmth and vibe I'm talking about.
The same lack of contrast may happen with Privateering, because it will be mastered from digital tape that the CD is?? I don't know??
How is the Get Lucky LP?
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Lol, I agree! It's just because most hifi buffs probabaly already have a turntable? But some people need pushing over the cliff, like me, it's taken me a year to get around to it, after already buying a great amp and speakers!
I was motivated by this deluxe MK set!
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Lol, I agree! It's just because most hifi buffs probabaly already have a turntable? But some people need pushing over the cliff, like me, it's taken me a year to get around to it, after already buying a great amp and speakers!
I was motivated by this deluxe MK set!
You can always rely on a Scot to sniff out a bargain! As we say here: mony a mickle maks a muckle! ;)
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I don't know if I have missed something, but do we have any clue what the DVD in the Super Deluxe will be? :-\
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I just pre-ordered it at bol.com in the Netherlands. It's only saying EPK DVD.
Content Super Deluxe Box: standard cd + 2LP Vinyl + Bonus cd with 3 extra tracks + EPK dvd + Numbered art print + Credit card with exclusive downloadcode for a complete concert.
And it must be my lucky day: I just ordered and paid
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Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks ? But there are 5 extra tracks you downloaded from I-tunes...Does that mean the bonus-CD of the 6-Part-Box-Set ist different from the 3-CD-Edition ? :( So we have to buy both to have it all :( .
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Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks ? But there are 5 extra tracks you downloaded from I-tunes...Does that mean the bonus-CD of the 6-Part-Box-Set ist different from the 3-CD-Edition ? :( So we have to buy both to have it all :( .
Who knows? May be it's CD with 3 studio tracks, like Get Lucky. Guy has posted that 25 songs were finished.
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Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks ? But there are 5 extra tracks you downloaded from I-tunes...Does that mean the bonus-CD of the 6-Part-Box-Set ist different from the 3-CD-Edition ? :( So we have to buy both to have it all :( .
Who knows? May be it's CD with 3 studio tracks, like Get Lucky. Guy has posted that 25 songs were finished.
Yes but, if you buy the superdeluxe box, you get the standard 2cd, an extra cd with 3 songs, but not the 3rd cd with live songs that comes with the deluxe 3cd version...
Looks like you may have to buy two versions to get everything...
I hope it's a mistake, the box HAVE TO include ALL.
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Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks ? But there are 5 extra tracks you downloaded from I-tunes...Does that mean the bonus-CD of the 6-Part-Box-Set ist different from the 3-CD-Edition ? :( So we have to buy both to have it all :( .
Who knows? May be it's CD with 3 studio tracks, like Get Lucky. Guy has posted that 25 songs were finished.
Yes but, if you buy the superdeluxe box, you get the standard 2cd, an extra cd with 3 songs, but not the 3rd cd with live songs that comes with the deluxe 3cd version...
Looks like you may have to buy two versions to get everything...
I hope it's a mistake, the box HAVE TO include ALL.
But you have a "credit card" with code to download a "full concert"
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Hmm, well, maybe we have to wait for a few months. GL deluxe box price drop after 7 months:
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Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks ? But there are 5 extra tracks you downloaded from I-tunes...Does that mean the bonus-CD of the 6-Part-Box-Set ist different from the 3-CD-Edition ? :( So we have to buy both to have it all :( .
Who knows? May be it's CD with 3 studio tracks, like Get Lucky. Guy has posted that 25 songs were finished.
eYes but, if you buy the superdeluxe box, you get the standard 2cd, an extra cd with 3 songs, but not the 3rd cd with live songs that comes with the deluxe 3cd version...
Looks like you may have to buy two versions to get everything...
I hope it's a mistake, the box HAVE TO include ALL.
But you have a "credit card" with code to download a "full concert"
Yes but I rather have a physical cd than a digital download and its supposed that the download is from a concert, and the 3rd cd from the deluxe is rehearsals... Different stuff.
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Just ordered the german box set... 72 euros (aprox) with shipping costs looks great price.
Unless I see it cheaper in other site, I
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Just noticed that the description of the german deluxe box in amazon germany says:
6 cds
I guess it means
2 cd standard versio
1 cd rehearsals songs (included in the deluxe 3cd version)
1 cd with 3 extra tracks
2 vinyls
So it looks like, in the end, the box has not only all but more and more stuff!!!!
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Just noticed that the description of the german deluxe box in amazon germany says:
6 cds
I guess it means
2 cd standard versio
1 cd rehearsals songs (included in the deluxe 3cd version)
1 cd with 3 extra tracks
2 vinyls
So it looks like, in the end, the box has not only all but more and more stuff!!!!
What about the DVD?
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hmmm, but a part of the title is :cd and dvd - set, so one of the cds in your describion must be a dvd.
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Just noticed that the description of the german deluxe box in amazon germany says:
6 cds
I guess it means
2 cd standard versio
1 cd rehearsals songs (included in the deluxe 3cd version)
1 cd with 3 extra tracks
2 vinyls
So it looks like, in the end, the box has not only all but more and more stuff!!!!
What about the DVD?
Damm, you're right, so...
One cd less, it may be the rehearsals cd of the 3cd version...
I miss some official info with all the details.
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Content Super Deluxe Box: standard cd + 2LP Vinyl + Bonus cd with 3 extra tracks + EPK dvd + Numbered art print + Credit card with exclusive downloadcode for a complete concert.
This is the official info from bol.com in the netherlands. It looks a little like it's the bonus CD from the 3CD-version with added 3 extra tracks in my opinion. At least I hope so, otherwise I have to buy the 3 CD version as well ???
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Just noticed that the description of the german deluxe box in amazon germany says:
6 cds
I guess it means
2 cd standard versio
1 cd rehearsals songs (included in the deluxe 3cd version)
1 cd with 3 extra tracks
2 vinyls
So it looks like, in the end, the box has not only all but more and more stuff!!!!
What about the DVD?
Damm, you're right, so...
One cd less, it may be the rehearsals cd of the 3cd version...
I miss some official info with all the details.
And you have to take into account the human error. Maybe they were given the wrong info. After all why not say 6 Discs, and instead calling them 6 CDs. Neither vinyl, nor DVD. But its only a month away. Wait and you shall be rewarded with an empty wallet ;D
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Fnac.com :
Comme pour son pr
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Good news, the box has all in the end.
Price?
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I bought/pre-ordered it for 79,99 euro
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Fnac.com :
In the Super deluxe :
2CD, DVD EPK, 2 LP, Live CD 7tracks, CD with 3 extra tracks, Download card for a concert, photos !
And : pre-order for the 2013 tour that will start September 4th
it was expected, and it looks like Get Lucky with 3 extra tracks on the bonus CD. But 25 songs were finished. 20 on the album, 3 on bonus CD, so 2 tracks will be as mp3 downloads again?
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If the bonus-CD contains 8 tracks, everything will be fine :) . Yesterday I took my GL-Box and listened to the LPs (by the way imo better sound than the cds)and I saw the bonus-cd - with only 3 tracks on it :( . So let
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The contradictory information that we get is getting on my nerves...
We had two versions of the live CD - one with 5 songs (WAM, CMG, STP, HFB and CBC) and one with 7 songs (same as the 5-song version, minus WAM, plus WII, MT, and SFA).
The Itunes samples seemed to confirmed the first 5-song version.
And now, FNAC is talking about a 7-song live CD.... ??
Could anybody enlighten me about the precise content of what we'll get ? or this is still a mystery ?
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I agree Herlock, there's confusion now. The i-Tunes snippets tell us that the extra CD from Deluxe edition contains 5 songs.
In Holland they describe the Deluxe-edition: 2CD + bonus disc (so that's the 5 songs which we know from iTunes.
The Super Deluxe Box describes it: Bonus CD with 3 extra tracks. So in my opinion there can be 2 possibilities: a CD with only 3 tracks or a CD which contains the 5 tracks from the deluxe-edition PLUS 3 extra tracks. That means 3 or 8 songs on this CD.
We will see!
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Thanks Ingrid...
Do you think that they would *dare* to do again something from the middle ages - different countries will get different things ???
After all, they've done it with the STP album in 2000....
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I am also sure that the european and american will be the same. I think nowadays it's too expensive to make different versions. Sales have dropped down because of downloads. As we sometimes see the japanese versions could be different.
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I bought/pre-ordered it for 79,99 euro
yes, I read that already, I also pre-ordered mine for 64.99 euros (71.44 euros shipping costs included) at amazon.de, but I mean about the fnac price. I ordered the one from Germany as it was the cheaper price, but if Fnac its the same one, I will go to the shop by myself and get it :)
Fnac France gives a price of 89.99 euros, with discount!!!! I
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I didn't watch other prices, best chance for me to have it in hands on the 31st of August is to order it from a dutch site :D
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I see that Amazon.uk has the Super Deluxe version for
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I see that Amazon.uk has the Super Deluxe version for
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I didn't watch other prices, best chance for me to have it in hands on the 31st of August is to order it from a dutch site :D
Spanish release date is September 4th so I dont mind waiting the delivery from Germany on August 31st ;D
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It works out at
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It works out at
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It works out at
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Another tight Scotsman here, but 60 pounds seems to be a lot to me.
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Another tight Scotsman here, but 60 pounds seems to be a lot to me.
Well, the way I look at it is I would have spent
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Another tight Scotsman here, but 60 pounds seems to be a lot to me.
Well, the way I look at it is I would have spent
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I pre-ordered my copy a few days ago on amazon.it at EUR 59,74 shipping included.
Now they are selling it at EUR 80,49 !!
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I don't get it. Why is the super deluxe box quintuple the price of the normal deluxe edition? Aren't the bonuses just a DVD and some tracks that didn't make it onto the album?
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I don't get it. Why is the super deluxe box quintuple the price of the normal deluxe edition? Aren't the bonuses just a DVD and some tracks that didn't make it onto the album?
Because packaging is so expensive ;D
And they know that MK die-hard fan are ready to pay big bucks for.
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I don't get it. Why is the super deluxe box quintuple the price of the normal deluxe edition? Aren't the bonuses just a DVD and some tracks that didn't make it onto the album?
And the vinyl is in it as well, also a numbered artprint.
So count the vinyl + deluxe + normal price of a dvd and it's about the same
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Well, the way I look at it is I would have spent
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As a fan of MK I won't buy an edition that does not feature full available music.
But I can't stand these overly priced deluxe edition. I don't care about vinyl LP's, EPK video or signed picture...
Dead end situation for me, I may end by buying nothing at all. :-[
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The "unreleased" tracks are always cool, but they do eventually work their way around the web.
As for the DVD... Is there any knowledge floatin' around about what's on that thing?
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The "unreleased" tracks are always cool, but they do eventually work their way around the web.
As for the DVD... Is there any knowledge floatin' around about what's on that thing?
The EPK (electronical press kit), a video filmed with MK talking about the record, as usual.
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Just bought the Super Deluxe for
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Today I checked again the prices, just to see if Fnac price is still 89.99 euros (I cant believe that its so expensive in comparation with amazon.uk or amazon.de) and noticed that it says that the cd live is 5 songs...
When it was posted here (one page ago) it said 7 songs...
This is crazy... 5 songs? 7 songs?... Its a mess
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That site is a mess, I already earlier said that there are 2 possibilities according to the dutch bol.com which says bonus CD with 3 extra tracks:
It means bonus CD from the deluxe (5 songs) + 3 extra = 8 songs
OR
CD with 3 songs (and not the 5 from the deluxe)
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That site is a mess, I already earlier said that there are 2 possibilities according to the dutch bol.com which says bonus CD with 3 extra tracks:
It means bonus CD from the deluxe (5 songs) + 3 extra = 8 songs
OR
CD with 3 songs (and not the 5 from the deluxe)
Fnac France said both cds, cd live with 7 songs and cd with 3 songs
- Une édition super deluxe composée de l’album standard, du CD additionnel (Live de 7 Titres du Tour 2011, d’un EPK vidéo ,du double LP, des photos exclusives, une carte permettant de télécharger un concert et 1 CD de 3 Titres Exclusif
And now it says:
- Une édition super deluxe composée de l’album standard, du CD 5 titres extraits des répétitions du Tour Automne 2011 : 1 Why Aye Man / 2 Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track) / 3 Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track) / 4 Sailing To Philadelphia / 5 Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track), d’un EPK vidéo ,du double LP, des photos exclusives, une carte permettant de télécharger un concert et 1 CD de 3 Titres Exclusif
It looks like the live cd and the cd with 3 songs are clearly two differents cds. Its the 7 tracks / 5 tracks what drives me crazy. I recall that "Marbletown" was one of the other two tracks from the live cd, so, whats gonna be? 7 tracks? 5 tracks?
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Today I sent an email to amazon.de and asked about the exact content and how many songs are on the Live-CD and Bonus-CD... I
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:( :( :( The answer is : amazon.de doesn`t know it either :( :( :( Nothing in their database so far :( :( :(
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:( :( :( The answer is : amazon.de doesn`t know it either :( :( :( Nothing in their database so far :( :( :(
Thanks for trying, Mona! :)
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Thanks Mona, it seems that the shops don't know it exactly either :disbelief
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I am sure Mark doesn't know himself. Nor Paul C.
:P
LE
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I've just ordred my Super Deluxe Edition... I will have to wait a little for the delivery ( 3 days )
Wonder if I'll survive on the D-Day, I may go to the cds shop and buy the 1st version for my mum hehehe (that's what I did for Get Lucky)
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Amazon.de Germany says now that the Super Deluxe Edition contains "3 additional songs" and that the DVD contains the documentation "A Life In Songs" ... and a numbered artprint and the voucher for a life concert download... I am still not sure if the 3rd CD with the 5 live songs is in it or it. It seems only one CD with 3 new songs is in it...
(So a documentary which I already have in perfect HD quality...) :disbelief
But three additional songs sounds nice, still. I always thought the CD would just have more of the live songs ...
LE
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I expect the worst now: I bet the concert live download show is one of the already released Simfy shows... If that should be the case, I will cancel my order and take the simple CD version or the 3 CD version. This box set already sucks... No need for vinyl for my part and a numbered art print isn't exactly what I was missing the last 30 years...
LE
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I also hope it't not a Simfy. I also hope it's not from the tour with BD. I hope the download will be of the NEXT tour, that would be a real gift!
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Amazon.de must be wrong, they told Mona they didn't know...
I think fnac information is more accurate, about the dvd, it says epk...
I hope im right ;D
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It beggars belief, that with only a month till release date, the details about the box content is still so uncertain. I certainly won't be placing my order until I know 100% the exact contents.
Surely by now there would have been some 'official' news!? :-\
I still havn't through choice, albeit a very hard desision, even listened to any of the circulating iTunes snippets yet. Although in my eyes, this just leads to a sweeter experience when I finally get my hands on a copy in Sept. :D
Cheers. BBB
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Amazon UK doesnt have any description, so it looks like the German site put something in a hurry, or at least I hope its that.
The description from Fnac.com looks does more sense with all the previous rumours.
About the official description of the box, yesterday I had a tweet from Salvador Design telling that the cover for the box he designed will be available in the pre-orders site very soon, so I guess thats what the official sources are waiting for, to have the final box design to put the whole description online.
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Now I
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I have just cancelled my order - I don't want "A Life in Songs", if the concert download is MK/BD I have loads of those already, if it is Simfy, I have those too and I don't want the vinyl, so that just leaves the bonus songs, which I can have on the 3 CD version. If we find out more, in the meantime, I will re-order!
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I have just cancelled my order - I don't want "A Life in Songs", if the concert download is MK/BD I have loads of those already, if it is Simfy, I have those too and I don't want the vinyl, so that just leaves the bonus songs, which I can have on the 3 CD version. If we find out more, in the meantime, I will re-order!
The thing of that pre-order you made is that they have to respect the price they gave you when you pre-ordered. If they increase the price, they have to charge you the price they had when you pre-ordered. If you take too long to pre-order again, you would loose that avantage.
The 3cd version has the live songs from the MK/BD tour rehearsals, but doesnt have the 3 bonus songs that are in the box.
As far as I know, you can cancel the pre-order before the release without charges, so until anything is crystal clear, as far as amazon.de has the cheaper price, I stick with it.
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I want the vinyl anyway, so when you count the vinyl + the 3 CD-version it's just a little bit more. In the Netherlands it says EPK-DVD!!!
So Val, I think JBaent has a point, you can cancel till it will be send to you, so I suppose cancellation till a couple of days before the 31st of August. On the other hand most of the times prices will drop half a year later or so.
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I want the vinyl anyway, so when you count the vinyl + the 3 CD-version it's just a little bit more. In the Netherlands it says EPK-DVD!!!
So Val, I think JBaent has a point, you can cancel till it will be send to you, so I suppose cancellation till a couple of days before the 31st of August. On the other hand most of the times prices will drop half a year later or so.
The fact that most of the sites says EPK-DVD is what makes me thing that amazon.de is wrong about the content of the dvd.
Regarding the price dropping half a year later, come on Ingridswing, we are get-a-lifers, we need the box as soon as we can!!!!
;D ;D ;D
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Ok, I am a get-a-lifer ;D And I order it the box the first hour that it was put online in the Netherlands.
Even worse I also ordered the 2CD-version to have it delivered at the office, in case I can't wait till the workingday has ended. And I already know what will happen at the 31st: I will drive home in between to have the box in hands as well.
Yes ... get-a-lifer is the right name :P
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Ok, I am a get-a-lifer ;D And I order it the box the first hour that it was put online in the Netherlands.
Even worse I also ordered the 2CD-version to have it delivered at the office, in case I can't wait till the workingday has ended. And I already know what will happen at the 31st: I will drive home in between to have the box in hands as well.
Yes ... get-a-lifer is the right name :P
This is soo sweet! :)
LE
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Thank God - August 31st is a friday: on fridays I only work part-time, so I will hurry at home at lunchtime and listen listen listen .... :D
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Probably the box will be in the store on the day before, so hopefully they give it to me on Thursday, that's my day off.
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Yes Jeroen that's what always happened when we still had a store in our village. Now it's gone I have to rely on online-orders >:(
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I will be in week one from a three week holiday then ;D - Amazon.de guarantees delievery on release day. So I will have stand at my door, awaiting the postman (who will not turn up before 15:00 h in my town...)
LE
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I will be in week one from a three week holiday then ;D - Amazon.de guarantees delievery on release day. So I will have stand at my door, awaiting the postman (who will not turn up before 15:00 h in my town...)
LE
If thats true... I probably will have the box the same day or even before than the Spanish release date, september 4th...
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Well, the guarantee it at least in Germany...
There are express options, might be more expensive, never checked them out...
LE
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As I see it, a company should only advertise a product as "for sale" if it is able to produce a description of the item in question. If the company is unable to do so then it is irresponsible trading. Saying that, I myself have bought one! ;D
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As I see it, a company should only advertise a product as "for sale" if it is able to produce a description of the item in question. If the company is unable to do so then it is irresponsible trading. Saying that, I myself have bought one! ;D
Welcome on board my dear twin-get-a-lifer ;D ;D
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As I see it, a company should only advertise a product as "for sale" if it is able to produce a description of the item in question. If the company is unable to do so then it is irresponsible trading. Saying that, I myself have bought one! ;D
We are irresponsible buyers ;D
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Do you guys know if they ship the amazon pre-orders earlier than the day of the release? It takes 9 freaking days for stuff to come to me!
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Do you guys know if they ship the amazon pre-orders earlier than the day of the release? It takes 9 freaking days for stuff to come to me!
I dont know, German is not my language, but I guess that:
a/ They ship everything the same day of the release to everywhere (or a day before)
b/ They ship first the packages to Germany and then the rest of packages
Maybe LE could check his preorder and look for information about it.
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They must ship the day before because they guarantee delivery on the day of release (at least in Germany).
So my 2 cents: all orders will be shipped on the 30th.
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Hopefully I'll get it in the first week of Sept then. I'll probably buy the 3 disc one, I don't need the vinyls and I don't have the money to buy the super deluxe set (yet). :)
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They must ship the day before because they guarantee delivery on the day of release (at least in Germany).
So my 2 cents: all orders will be shipped on the 30th.
I hope so...
The e-mail confirmation I got from amazon.de says:
5. September 2012 - 10. September 2012
So if I
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GennT, where do you live? Why don't you just order it in your country or get it from a store on the day of release?
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They must ship the day before because they guarantee delivery on the day of release (at least in Germany).
So my 2 cents: all orders will be shipped on the 30th.
I hope so...
The e-mail confirmation I got from amazon.de says:
5. September 2012 - 10. September 2012
So if I
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I live in Prishtina, Kosovo, the stores here only sell pirated stuff, I probably can get it for 1 Euro or something, but I don't want to! I had to wait for Get Lucky until October!
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They must ship the day before because they guarantee delivery on the day of release (at least in Germany).
So my 2 cents: all orders will be shipped on the 30th.
I hope so...
The e-mail confirmation I got from amazon.de says:
5. September 2012 - 10. September 2012
So if I
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1) Amazon.de has an extended new press media text online. it contains some new stuff from MK about the new album. I have not much time now and cannot translate, maybe later this day. Mark talks about being a Privateer himself, writing more songs than ever and feeling that he might "run out of time"...
2) They have this picture and I am not sure if we know it already. I didn't. It is together with some other Get Lucky promotion pic's.
More later. Maybe.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81-kOxMxjHL._SL290_.jpg)
LE
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Is that a Pensa?
I love it!!!!
When you can, please translate, I
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About the cover: He says that everybody who had that kind of car in the early days was immediately very welcome to play in a band. He also wanted to go away from that "saber rattling" image from the pirates idea and repeats that he loves to be on his own with his own crew and band, give the direction,
no government grant, surroundings change on a daily base... exactly like a privateer.
He also states that he certainly didn't want to make a "concept album", and also did not wanted to separate the songs because of their different directions, and also did not want to put some classic songs into the drawer for later times. He just wanted to document this outburst of creativtiy with a great band - and also wanted to document how great the sessions were they had... "Like artists coming together and reading a script, they filled this music in my head with life"
Very friendly words about Kim Wilson and Ruth Moody, and about the band: "This is the best possible band I tried to get my whole life".
Other suggestions and contributions very welcome.
LE
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The press text, not Mark himself says this about the songs:
Hot or What about an arrogant gambler
Yon Two Crows about a fierce sheperd from the north (who would have thought ;) )
And Mark says: The older I get, the more I feel the urge to write more songs. You have to be careful because everywhere you walk you could hit a new song...
LE
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Thanks LE! I have read it now on the Amazon.de page. I enjoyed it very much. :)
Jbaent - there is a "translate" button to help! ;)
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Thanks LE! I have read it now on the Amazon.de page. I enjoyed it very much. :)
Jbaent - there is a "translate" button to help! ;)
Sure, when I get home ;D
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Thanks LE! I have read it now on the Amazon.de page. I enjoyed it very much. :)
Jbaent - there is a "translate" button to help! ;)
There is? Nice, that might help a lot. I can't find him, but who cares.
LE
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Thanks LE! I have read it now on the Amazon.de page. I enjoyed it very much. :)
Jbaent - there is a "translate" button to help! ;)
There is? Nice, that might help a lot. I can't find him, but who cares.
LE
I tried from work, there is not any button. I guess Val may have something in his browser that allows you to translate. I have one button in my mozilla firefox broswer that translate every web, but at home ;)
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Yes, it is on my Google toolbar.
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from amazon.it:
Booking Bonus - Exclusive to Amazon.it
Book to receive a VIP access to presale tickets for the Mark Knopfler tour, with seven dates in major Italian cities in spring and summer of 2013. Promotional codes will be sent via email from September 4th, 2012 to all customers who have pre-ordered the album on the site Amazon.it. The tour dates will be announced along with details for the booking of tickets starting from September. The offer is valid for products sold and shipped by Amazon.it and is extended to all existing bookings (excludes products sold by other sellers on the platform Marketplace).
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91E%2BROv-%2BeL._AA1500_.jpg)
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Thanks ustas! Interesting artwork! I notice that the DVD is, indeed, "A Life in Songs", which I already have in HD. :-\
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91LYofdOFQL._AA1500_.jpg)
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Thanks again, ustas! I think I'll go for this one! :)
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Great work Ustas! Always the first!
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Great work Ustas! Always the first!
Not me, it's Amazon.
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Well done Ustas.
I can't see the bonus cd with the live rehearsals in the box, the cd there looks like the standard 2cd version. I'll buy the box for sure but I dislike the idea of having to buy the 3cd edition as well...
I don't mind about the life in songs documentary, but I hope that DVD also contains the EPK like extras or something...
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So, am am still undecided:
I like the idea of having 3 bonus songs and a live concert voucher of course. But I dislike the idea of another existing edition with 5 live tracks that are not in the Super Deluxe edition. Also "A Life In Songs"
is old hat and has been repeated on TV already... So if there was a EPK, I would feel ok with that...
(They obviously cannot imagine that fans are able to produce HD recordings of TV programmes on their own.)
The artwork is somewhat cool by the way. I like it. But Goldenheart96 had a picture of the Graceland Anniversary Box from Paul Simon with lots of goodies like hand written lyric-reprint, and other stuff, which really deserves the name Super Deluxe better. But that's the same story as 2009. But this one seems not so overpriced as last time. So they learn obviously...
LE
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Some of the fnac and amazon shops still have 90 euros price...
Thats overpriced.
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So, am am still undecided:
I like the idea of having 3 bonus songs and a live concert voucher of course. But I dislike the idea of another existing edition with 5 live tracks that are not in the Super Deluxe edition. Also "A Life In Songs"
is old hat and has been repeated on TV already... So if there was a EPK, I would feel ok with that...
(They obviously cannot imagine that fans are able to produce HD recordings of TV programmes on their own.)
The artwork is somewhat cool by the way. I like it. But Goldenheart96 had a picture of the Graceland Anniversary Box from Paul Simon with lots of goodies like hand written lyric-reprint, and other stuff, which really deserves the name Super Deluxe better. But that's the same story as 2009. But this one seems not so overpriced as last time. So they learn obviously...
LE
I really like the artwork, again great work from Salvador Lavado. But we need a correct tracklistening for the deluxe and the deluxe limited. We can see the Bonus tracks, but how many are there on that disc? 8 or 5?
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The Life In Songs documentary is really too bad because anyone buying this deluxe set is going to be a big fan and any big fan will already have seen this! Pointless DVD and as we can see they are going rusty already!
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As I can't see the live cd in the box picture... What if the download code is for that same songs that comes with the 3cd version?
Anything is possible.
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Thanks Ustas! Once again, no sleeve artwork for the vinyl.It is unfair!
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Seems as this will be a neverending story...ok, it will end at Aug.31st...but I`m afraid, as a (new) hard-core-fan I have to buy both deluxe-boxes, although I don`t like that...But I really like the artwork, and I love the new photo from amazon... I like the shabby room, it matches perfectly with the album-cover, and I like MK, has he lost weight ;D ?
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From Dutch bol.com:
Mark Knopfler komt in 2013 naar Nederland. Datum en plek worden binnenkort bekend gemaakt. Wanneer je nu het nieuwe album reserveert mag je als eerste kaarten kopen voor dit fantastische concert.
Translation:
Mark Knopfler comes to Holland in 2013. Date and place will be revealed soon. When you pre-order the album now, than you are allowed to buy tickets first for this fantastic concert.
I will pre-order tommorow:D
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Hate to be a pedant, but I don't think So Life in Songs has been broadcast in HD....
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Haha, you are right Dusty. I checked it and I mixed it up: It was broadcasted on Digital TV and that was probably what I was remembering (wrong) when
talking about HD. Nevertheless, the picture quality is close to perfect on my DVD (on HD flat)...
Please, be pedantic when it comes to MK! ;D
LE
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I really dont mind about the "A life in songs" documentary included in the box, actually I like it, its a nice documentary and having it released officially, althouth as a bonus in a limited edition box, its official.
What piss me off a little is the 5 (or 7) live rehearsals cd that comes with the 3cd version. It looks its only there, as the bonus tracks cd we can see in the box has been stated as "3 bonus tracks cd" in many shops. But, also the dvd has been stated a EPK-DVD and now it turns out to be the documentary (I still hope the EPK is there as a bonus video)
And what piss me off more about that 5 (or 7) live rehearsals cd is the chance that it might be the download that comes with the download code. I know it has been said to be "a download of a full concert", but looks like informations by several shops was kind of inaccurate...
I
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Take from a Japanese webpage:
Bonus CD (3 songs):
1. Occupation Blues
2. River of Grog
3. Follow The Ribbon
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/guruguru2/0602537043231/
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Take from a Japanese webpage:
Bonus CD (3 songs):
1. Occupation Blues
2. River of Grog
3. Follow The Ribbon
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/guruguru2/0602537043231/
Hi Llombitos, welcome back tigre ;D
Thank you very very much for the information, very interesting!!!!
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Thanks llombitos! Is there a "full concert download" included in this pack do you think?
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The site from where Llombitos saw the information is from the Rakuten group (www.play.com is from that group) and surprise. it says there are 3 cds, besides the bonus cd, and the dvd is labelled again as EPK-DVD
CD1
1. Redbud Tree
2. Haul Away
3. Don
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Thanks jbaent, That helps a lot lot ! I found this website, it was new to me, but maybe I just missed something here in the forum...
http://www.mark-knopfler.info/news/
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Thanks jbaent, That helps a lot lot ! I found this website, it was new to me, but maybe I just missed something here in the forum...
http://www.mark-knopfler.info/news/
I think its Ustas site...
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Thanks jbaent, That helps a lot lot ! I found this website, it was new to me, but maybe I just missed something here in the forum...
http://www.mark-knopfler.info/news/
it's Ustas' site !
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The Super Deluxe Box Set is now
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;D Sorry, I`m new here ;D
And I wondered, why the photos and the informations are so up-to-date . It`s the site of an amit-member, no official-site, that`s the explanation ;D
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;D Sorry, I`m new here ;D
And I wondered, why the photos and the informations are so up-to-date . It`s the site of an amit-member, no official-site, that`s the explanation ;D
You are new here, and more than welcome! Every new member discovering what we already know is great, we love to re-discover everything ;D
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Welcome to AMIT, Mona! :)
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Just noticed, I've become a maestro! ;D :lol
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Just noticed, I've become a maestro! ;D :lol
A Maestra!!!!
;D
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3001 looks cool. You should stop posting now...
:lol ;D
KIDDING!!!!!!!
LE
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Go Val GO! You have to catch Pottel now he's on holiday, 4668 posts he has ;D
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The great news of today, the 3 tracks cd contains 3 new songs...
So we have for sure 23 new songs!!!!
Lets wait that we have again some other songs available in itunes etc etc and get to the 25 songs Guy said were completed!
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The Super Deluxe Box Set is now
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Great news about the extra 3 tracks! No more buying more sets. Although I think I will buy the normal deluxe also. It looks like it has an dvd format!
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Yes noticed that amazon has an utility, below the description, to inform them about an inferior price, and I did...
I send them the price from their own site in Germany, more than 20 euros cheaper. I hope it arrives to someone and the price in Amazon France could be dropped... In the hope that Spanish amazon will do the same when they list the box ;D
I encourage all our french friends or AMIT forumers that can speak french to go to amazon.fr and do the same :)
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Yes noticed that amazon has an utility, below the description, to inform them about an inferior price, and I did...
I send them the price from their own site in Germany, more than 20 euros cheaper. I hope it arrives to someone and the price in Amazon France could be dropped... In the hope that Spanish amazon will do the same when they list the box ;D
I encourage all our french friends or AMIT forumers that can speak french to go to amazon.fr and do the same :)
It's done !
I asked if they would get the same price as amazon.de !
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Yes noticed that amazon has an utility, below the description, to inform them about an inferior price, and I did...
I send them the price from their own site in Germany, more than 20 euros cheaper. I hope it arrives to someone and the price in Amazon France could be dropped... In the hope that Spanish amazon will do the same when they list the box ;D
I encourage all our french friends or AMIT forumers that can speak french to go to amazon.fr and do the same :)
It's done !
I asked if they would get the same price as amazon.de !
I dont know if Fnac has the same utility, but it could be helpful to try... anyone?
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"I encourage all our french friends or AMIT forumers that can speak french to go to amazon.fr and do the same"
Although I
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I'm only 17 and Mark is by far my favourite musician of all time, i dont know whether i should get the deluxe box set though, it's still a lot for me when i compare to what's included. I already have the documentary on my ipod and won't have any need for the lp's. If i'm honest i was kinda hoping for a mini van and dog ;D
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I'm only 17 and Mark is by far my favourite musician of all time, i dont know whether i should get the deluxe box set though, it's still a lot for me when i compare to what's included. I already have the documentary on my ipod and won't have any need for the lp's. If i'm honest i was kinda hoping for a mini van and dog ;D
Me too, it was a kind of dissapointment not having the mini van :lol
Its great to see that 17th years old people still have the good taste to love MK
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Cant get enough of it! :)... First album i ever loved was Sailing To Philadelphia, my dad had it on in the car about 5 years ago... Since then i've been absolutely hooked. Went to see him and Bob last October, such a shame when he left the stage, Bob is abysmal is you ask me. And the missing mini van? Huge loss for me! :(
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I'm only 17 and Mark is by far my favourite musician of all time, i dont know whether i should get the deluxe box set though, it's still a lot for me when i compare to what's included. I already have the documentary on my ipod and won't have any need for the lp's. If i'm honest i was kinda hoping for a mini van and dog ;D
Welcome to the forum mate! 18 here. I'm getting the 3 disc deluxe edition, the design looks really nice! I'm hoping for WAM in the bonus live songs though.
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Cheers pal ;D... Yeah i'm torn on what to get ???... Really want to hear the 3 bonus tracks and the super deluxe box set would be a great momento to have. And i dont think its too much more than the 3 disc set, i'll have to have another little think
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Welcome, BloodGator to AMIT! I am the same as you - still thinking which version to buy - one day this, one day that! ::)
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Welcome, BloodGator to AMIT! I am the same as you - still thinking which version to buy - one day this, one day that! ::)
Dont buy anything... Wait for the leak.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Thanks! :lol i never got the Get Lucky one, I didn't know his music as well as i do now back then, unfortunately. I hear this box set is much cheaper than the last which is good, if the designer could just sneak in a little van into mine it would seal the deal. I really think both Mark and the team involved designing it all should look on here for our opinions, it would make it better for everyone! And i will get the leak when it comes, but i have to buy something, it'd be a sin not to! :D
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You can find the Get Lucky box cheaper in many shops, online and stores, some of them had to put low prices when they realised they wont sell them...
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I'd happily buy the Get Lucky one now for the right price. Just checked Mark's website, still
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I'd happily buy the Get Lucky one now for the right price. Just checked Mark's website, still
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Everywhere I look its still around 100 :( if anyone knows where i can get the Get Lucky boxset cheaper i'm open to suggestions ;D
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amazon.de
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it really is...also, I am waiting for new design of MK.com...hope it will be online very soon...three years the same GL website...oh well... ::)
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20th August
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How do you know?
LE
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Its when the search and win thing ends... I have the feeling that it ends because the site changes.
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Yes ybaent, that`t a good idea ! I never thought of a connection but it seems logical !
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Right. Something rather worrying as occurred. I pre-ordered the Super Deluxe box set from Amazon.co.uk last weekend and tonight I have looked on Amazon only to find that the item has been REMOVED from the listings completely! :( Never experienced anything like this before!
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Just had a live chat with customer services on Amazon. The person I spoke to told me my item was due for dispatch on 31st August (already knew that) but could not explain the disappearance of the item from their listings. They didn't appear interested in investigating further ???. I may have to do some more digging if it gets close to the release date and still hasn't re-appeared.
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Just had a live chat with customer services on Amazon. The person I spoke to told me my item was due for dispatch on 31st August (already knew that) but could not explain the disappearance of the item from their listings. They didn't appear interested in investigating further ???. I may have to do some more digging if it gets close to the release date and still hasn't re-appeared.
Did you check your account? If the item is there, I won
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I am really surprised that Amazon.uk have only the 2 CD version and vinyl to offer, especially as MK is a UK artist. I contacted Amazon yesterday to ask why they didn't offer the 3 CD version. This is their reply:
The item you have mentioned - "Privateering (Limited Deluxe Edition) [Box-Set] Mark Knopfler"
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Val, we did the math, and ordering from Germany was cheaper and faster in comparation, wasnt it? It was because the pounds/euros exchange, and the fact that amazon.de release it on Agust 31st.
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Val, we did the math, and ordering from Germany was cheaper and faster in comparation, wasnt it? It was because the pounds/euros exchange, and the fact that amazon.de release it on Agust 31st.
Yes, you're right, jbaent - I just looked back at my post. Amazon.de price is
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Val, we did the math, and ordering from Germany was cheaper and faster in comparation, wasnt it? It was because the pounds/euros exchange, and the fact that amazon.de release it on Agust 31st.
Yes, you're right, jbaent - I just looked back at my post. Amazon.de price is
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I really am astonished at how Amazon could make an item available, allow people to pre-order it and then suddenly remove it from their listings without a trace. For all we know they may never have that item in stock. This has never happened to me on Amazon before - typical that it should happen to a bloody Mark Knopfler album of all things!
Was not satisfied with the answer to my query last night. He was basing it purely on the details already available on my order and clearly had no intention of investigating further. If an item goes out of stock or becomes unavailable for whatever reason, Amazon do not simply remove it from their listings - they usually just show it as 'currently unavailable' or something. I will attempt to take this higher.
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Did you check your pre-order status? If its there, dont worry. The problem would be if the item is not there either.
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Oh yes, the item is still listed in my order but if I click on the item, I get a message saying 'this is not a functional page of our website' or words to that effect. Very odd.
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Oh yes, the item is still listed in my order but if I click on the item, I get a message saying 'this is not a functional page of our website' or words to that effect. Very odd.
I wont worry very much about it. In the end they are gonna sell the item for sure. You have it in your orders, and as they will have it, they will send it to you.
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Hmmm, yes. That's what I'm hoping but it's still quite odd that it's disappeared from their listings without a trace. We will see what happens.
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Amazon wants to make profit with selling cds..I bet they will order new cd-boxes from universal music (or mercury) and then put it on their site again.
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My order is up and running (I checked it because I was a little bit concerned after the last posts above..) The only thing that is not clear is if the 3rd CD with the 5 live songs is in it (as stated at some sites) and if there is anything more on the dvd apart from the "Life in Songs" documentary. Even if not, I want the Super Deluxe. I think the 3 CD version will be available for a long time - same as the deluxe box. Amazon is run by software and robots and not human beings, it seems. There is a dispatch or notification and nobody seems to feel responsible to give a "real" paying customer a "real" satisfying answer. Often you can read this "out of stock" message even if the item is not yet released... which is strange enough!
Keep in mind you can still buy the Get Lucky Deluxe Edition... Although the new one seems to be priced more appropriate.. I would not worry too much about not getting any released format from which amazon whatever...
LE
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I've just received this e-mail from Amazon:
We regret to report that the release of the following item has been cancelled:
" Mark Knopfler "Privateering"
Our supplier has informed us that this item is no longer available. This item has now been cancelled from your order #203-0093679-5085128 and we can confirm that you have not been charged for it.
Please accept our apologies for any disappointment or inconvenience caused.
You may visit the product detail page(s) above to see if these item(s) are available from other sellers."
Rather alarming I'm sure you'll agree. ???
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dmg, This is a very strange state of affairs with Amazon UK. Was it the Super Deluxe version that you ordered?
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dmg, This is a very strange state of affairs with Amazon UK. Was it the Super Deluxe version that you ordered?
Yes, it was. I think possibly they may have been a little too eager in their quest to make money and put it up for pre sale. Now they realise their suppliers may not be able to get hold of enough copies for them to fulfill their commitments to their customers, so they've taken it off sale until they get to nearer the time of release.
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Well I'm astonished. How on earth is it possible that this edition can be available in all the other countries and NOT the UK? Severely cheesed off. >:(
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Well I'm astonished. How on earth is it possible that this edition can be available in all the other countries and NOT the UK? Severely cheesed off. >:(
It's not only the Super Deluxe version that's not available, its the 3 CD and now also the vinyl has been removed! There is only the 2 CD available from Amazon UK and MK is a British artist! >:(
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Just run a search on Amazon and the vinyl edition is still there but it's showing as 'currently unavailable'. This situation is just beyond belief. As you say Val, MK is a British artist and evidently not all formats of the album are being made available to us! >:( >:( >:(
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I'm quite confident [fingers crossed] that the super deluxe box will be available nearer the time in the UK from good ole Amazon. It may even be a legal trading thing where in the UK they must provide a detailed description of the item or be able to fulfill customer demand (remember this is limited edition so a pre-sale is risky as Amazon deal with suppliers).
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Very strange with Amazon UK ???
By the way, Japan SHM-CD
1) http://artist.cdjournal.com/d/privateering/4112070885 the track listing includes japan word likes "others"
2) http://www.cede.ch/de/music-cd/frames/frameset.cfm?aobj=965642 it says shm-cd + bonus
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At amazon.de everything is still available. The number of cd/disc of the super-deluxe-box changed from 6 to 4. Maybe 4 cd/dvd and 2 lps...that would mean 2cds, the 3-songs-bonus-cd and the dvd !?! That`s what they wrote in the describtion. So no 3rd cd with life-tracks ? Again confusion...
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Yes, but it is rather unusual for them to put an item up for pre-sale and then subsequently remove it. I've never known that to happen before and I've used Amazon for ten years now. We will have to wait and see what happens but if the worst comes to the worst, it may even be an idea to contact MK's management to ask what is going on with the UK release formats. It would be unfair in the extreme not to make all the formats available to all territories - especially to MK's home fans!
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bought it for 64,99, at amazon.de
as always.
cancelled the normal box.
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just to makesure, the " unmixed" live songs, are rehearsal recordings??
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Amazon seem to be making a bit of a mess of the new Pet Shop Boys album 'Elysium' as well - the only edition available for pre-order at the moment is a
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Amazon seem to be making a bit of a mess of the new Pet Shop Boys album 'Elysium' as well - the only edition available for pre-order at the moment is a
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just to makesure, the " unmixed" live songs, are rehearsal recordings??
Yes, from the Dylan / Knopfler Autumm 2011 tour.
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According to Ustas' site, the 3 bonus tracks are : 1. Occupation blues 2. River of grog 3. Follow the ribbon
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According to Ustas' site, the 3 bonus tracks are : 1. Occupation blues 2. River of grog 3. Follow the ribbon
Yes, Llombitos told us the same one or two days ago, he was the first who discovered it.
I have the feeling that they
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Third online shop announced the SHM-CD with bonus http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Mark-Knophler-Privateering-bonus/hnum/2953222?SESSIONID=fa042f24c17ba8b68af6079a0a101b91
I assume it will be 2 extra non-album tracks (from 25 finished).
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According to Ustas' site, the 3 bonus tracks are : 1. Occupation blues 2. River of grog 3. Follow the ribbon
Yes, Llombitos told us the same one or two days ago, he was the first who discovered it.
I have the feeling that they
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According to Ustas' site, the 3 bonus tracks are : 1. Occupation blues 2. River of grog 3. Follow the ribbon
Yes, Llombitos told us the same one or two days ago, he was the first who discovered it.
I have the feeling that they
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According to Ustas' site, the 3 bonus tracks are : 1. Occupation blues 2. River of grog 3. Follow the ribbon
Yes, Llombitos told us the same one or two days ago, he was the first who discovered it.
I have the feeling that they
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An AMIT member, but he posts not so very often here obviouly....
USTAS, sorry for asking a dumbass question again, but what exactly is a SHM-CD? Which format or version will have it included, or is it a total other format?
River of Grog sounds like another stupid "left-over" song by Mark by the way, while "Occupation Blues"
sounds promising - hey, it's a blues number by MK after all! 6 weeks ago we all would have gone made by reading this... ;D
LE
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LE, I was thinking in asking you, as one of the proud lucky ones that will be able to buy the box on august 31st, to inform of every detail of it...
... because depending if the box contains or not (in cd format or download code one) the live rehearsals cd, I will to a the Fnac store in Valencia and buy personally the 3cd version or not.
;D
I want to have it all in original format, so this looks like they are gonna take a lot of money from me :lol
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Naaaaaaah, when I have my box on August 31st, I will shut down the internet connection for at least 14 days and only listen to my new "precious" all day long.... ;D ;D ;D
OF course, it will be a pleasure to tell you all about it... And give my opinion about the three new songs, although I know this common meaning about opinions of course...
LE
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Who's Llombitos ?
Our new friend, AMIT member, check the previous pages with his post
USTAS, sorry for asking a dumbass question again, but what exactly is a SHM-CD? Which format or version will have it included, or is it a total other format?
LE
SHM-CD is a usual CD, using a "super-puper" special material for the CD print in Japan. Latest industry marketing method to get extra cash from buyers. Nothing special, but very expensive. I just found some info that Japan SHM-CD version will include bonus.
Detailed release listing:
Standard Album (2CD Slimline Case)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3704321 7. The standard release includes 20 tracks.
An version of the Album (2CD)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3707935 3. A version with the standard track listing. Not any details yet.
Double Vinyl (2LP)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3708778 5. Vinyl version of the standard album.
SHM (2CD)
Universal Music Japan UICR1098. Japanese edition exclusively features the high-fidelity SHM-CD format. Referring to some on-line shops it will include bonus track(s).
Deluxe Edition (3CD Box set)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3708118 9. Includes bonus CD with 5 tracks recorded live in 2011:
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer
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Ustas, I visited that link about the SMH cd version but cant find the information about the two bonus tracks...
It only says "Plus bonus" as far as I read.
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Ustas, I visited that link about the SMH cd version but cant find the information about the two bonus tracks...
It only says "Plus bonus" as far as I read.
I assume that the bonus will include 2 tracks, but do not know it exactly
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Ustas, I visited that link about the SMH cd version but cant find the information about the two bonus tracks...
It only says "Plus bonus" as far as I read.
I assume that the bonus will include 2 tracks.
Hehehehehe, ok, ok, so I would say I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT ;D
If its that way, and there are two tracks not in any of the limited and deluxe versions... I will have to buy another one...
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Who's Llombitos ?
Our new friend, AMIT member, check the previous pages with his post
USTAS, sorry for asking a dumbass question again, but what exactly is a SHM-CD? Which format or version will have it included, or is it a total other format?
LE
SHM-CD is a usual CD, using a "super-puper" special material for the CD print in Japan. Latest industry marketing method to get extra cash from buyers. Nothing special, but very expensive. I just found some info that Japan SHM-CD version will include bonus.
Detailed release listing:
Standard Album (2CD Slimline Case)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3704321 7. The standard release includes 20 tracks.
An version of the Album (2CD)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3707935 3. A version with the standard track listing. Not any details yet.
Double Vinyl (2LP)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3708778 5. Vinyl version of the standard album.
SHM (2CD)
Universal Music Japan UICR1098. Japanese edition exclusively features the high-fidelity SHM-CD format. Referring to some on-line shops it will include bonus track(s).
Deluxe Edition (3CD Box set)
Mercury Rec. 06025 3708118 9. Includes bonus CD with 5 tracks recorded live in 2011:
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer
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Ustas, I visited that link about the SMH cd version but cant find the information about the two bonus tracks...
It only says "Plus bonus" as far as I read.
I assume that the bonus will include 2 tracks.
Hehehehehe, ok, ok, so I would say I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT ;D
If its that way, and there are two tracks not in any of the limited and deluxe versions... I will have to buy another one...
:(
I just remember the situation with Get Lucky. 3 bonus tracks from Deluxe box and 2 more as digital downloads. But there was not Japan version in 2009.
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All the informations now talk about the live rehearsal cd a a 5 tracks cd
Mercury Rec. 06025 3708118 9. Includes bonus CD with 5 tracks recorded live in 2011:
1.Why Aye Man
2.Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
3.Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
4.Sailing To Philadelphia
5.Hill Farmer
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All the informations now talk about the live rehearsal cd a a 5 tracks cd
Mercury Rec. 06025 3708118 9. Includes bonus CD with 5 tracks recorded live in 2011:
1.Why Aye Man
2.Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
3.Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
4.Sailing To Philadelphia
5.Hill Farmer
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Yes, I know, the preview has 5 tracks but it looks strange as BOL.com still has that information.
I rather have the 7 songs versions, as anyone would, the more the better ;D
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Yes, I know, the preview has 5 tracks but it looks strange as BOL.com still has that information.
I rather have the 7 songs versions, as anyone would, the more the better ;D
Not only bol. Imusic.dk still has the same track listing http://www.imusic.dk/cd/0602537081189/mark-knopfler-2012-privateering-cd
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4 of 5 Japan online shops have a track listing looks like that (translated from Japan by Google):
CD2
1 Kingdom Of Gold
2 Got To Have Something
3 Radio City Serenade
4 I Used To Could
5 Gator Blood
6 Bluebird
7 Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
8 Blood And Water
9 Today Is Okay
10 After The Beanstalk
Other
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Just hope MK.com confirms what is being released where soon. I have looked at several UK-based online stores and none of them are listing the deluxe limited edition :(
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I doubt that the official sources publish anything about japanese editions, I have the feeling that japanese editions have their own way... Non of the SHM CD releases were officially announced.
Does it only says "other" in the cd2? Strange... However one song more is more than none ;D
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I doubt that the official sources publish anything about japanese editions, I have the feeling that japanese editions have their own way... Non of the SHM CD releases were officially announced.
Does it only says "other" in the cd2? Strange... However one song more is more than none ;D
It's just Universal Music decision, not MK. There is nice MK interview for Italian blog http://www.chiarameattelli.com/Knopfler.pdf (in Italian) and translation http://eaglesfans-forum.com/index.php?topic=1812.0
Just cite:
Q: What do you tell me about the De Luxe Edition for "Get Lucky": 2 CDs, 2 LPs, 2 DVDs, even some gadgets like the dice for playing roulette, the chips
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Bullshit!!!!
;D ;D ;D
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nick cave recorded his last album at BG? (see interview)
would love to get a list of all artists who have recorded there..
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nick cave recorded his last album at BG? (see interview)
would love to get a list of all artists who have recorded there..
I asked once to Dave Stewart, the studio manager, to publish a list of some of that artists in the BG site, that would be nice in order to have more clients and he answered me that their clients appreciatte the anonymity.
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That bullshit comment by MK regarding the deluxe box makes me thing if you think that MK will have a copy of every of his records in home, in the various formats, or he doesnt care at all...
It always makes me laugh when he talks about any song and says that he cant remember in which record is...
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Has this been posted? Well, now it has :P
(http://www.mark-knopfler.info/gallery/2012/superdeluxe.jpg)
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Yes, it was, by Ustas, some pages ago ;)
Thanks anyway.
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Do we know what the sleeve at the bottom right-hand side of the picture contains?
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Do we know what the sleeve at the bottom right-hand side of the picture contains?
"Numbered art print" (Ustas site)
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Yes, the numbered art print...
I was expected something better, a MK picture or something like that... A numbered cover art print is... like the cover, the same one, but with a number...
Useless.
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Do we know what the sleeve at the bottom right-hand side of the picture contains?
"Numbered art print" (Ustas site)
Thank you, BR! :)
I agree, jbaent, a picture of MK would have been so much better!
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The rusty Deluxe set sleeves are truly beautiful, though. Best artwork so far for Mark Knopfler.
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The rusty Deluxe set sleeves are truly beautiful, though. Best artwork so far for Mark Knopfler.
Yes, they are beautiful and so realistic I have an urge to get out my paint-scraper and sand-paper! ;D
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The preview is on itunes again, no tracks length mentioned
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Yes, the numbered art print...
I was expected something better, a MK picture or something like that... A numbered cover art print is... like the cover, the same one, but with a number...
Useless.
Yes, and the the cover art is repulsive. In my personal opinion, of course.
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Yes, the numbered art print...
I was expected something better, a MK picture or something like that... A numbered cover art print is... like the cover, the same one, but with a number...
Useless.
I guess the art print is i n s i d e that sleeve, it is not the sleeve itself... so it must not automatically be the album cover. It can be a picture of anything, if you know what I mean...
LE
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Yes, let`s hope for another exclusive photo inside ! Btw (I think I wrote it before) I LOVE the artwork, this shabby style. It`s the way I do my photographing since some months, too... as a hobby-photographer... maybe I should take the photos for his next album ;)
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Yes, let`s hope for another exclusive photo inside ! Btw (I think I wrote it before) I LOVE the artwork, this shabby style. It`s the way I do my photographing since some months, too... as a hobby-photographer... maybe I should take the photos for his next album ;)
Good suggestion, by doing this we could make the Deluxe Box ~ 10 Euros cheaper.
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Yon Two Crows: to me it sounds a little bit like Trawlermans song,love over gold,ragpickers dream,silvertown blues
and probably something else too when the whole song will be available :)
Yes, Silvertown was the first thing I thought of. Sounds very promising! 8)
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Yon Two Crows: to me it sounds a little bit like Trawlermans song,love over gold,ragpickers dream,silvertown blues
and probably something else too when the whole song will be available :)
Yes, Silvertown was the first thing I thought of. Sounds very promising! 8)
Yes, that guitar sounds at the end of the sample is very Silvertown...
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There is a sequence of notes in the middle that sounds very like "Sucker Row".
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Yes, let`s hope for another exclusive photo inside ! Btw (I think I wrote it before) I LOVE the artwork, this shabby style. It`s the way I do my photographing since some months, too... as a hobby-photographer... maybe I should take the photos for his next album ;)
Good suggestion, by doing this we could make the Deluxe Box ~ 10 Euros cheaper.
Yes right, because I won`t take any money for the photos , ( my name mentioned on his album would be enough for me) he would spare a lot of money,...and I would convince him to give free cd-copies to all his true fans from amit... :D
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Yes, let`s hope for another exclusive photo inside ! Btw (I think I wrote it before) I LOVE the artwork, this shabby style. It`s the way I do my photographing since some months, too... as a hobby-photographer... maybe I should take the photos for his next album ;)
Good suggestion, by doing this we could make the Deluxe Box ~ 10 Euros cheaper.
Yes right, because I won`t take any money for the photos , ( my name mentioned on his album would be enough for me) he would spare a lot of money,...and I would convince him to give free cd-copies to all his true fans from amit... :D
No, no free cd, I want to pay for it, but as cheaper as possible
;D
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Can't wait to hear Yon Two Crows in full. This song has such great lyrics: I get goosebumps really every time he talks the song in: Pennies from heaven - don't make me laugh - here all you'll get is the pattering rain - with some great accent in it, very angry, or grimly.. I love that! I wonder what we can expect from the rest of the song... Love it, did a say already??
LE
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like:
Redbud
haul away
don'T forget your hat (the slide people!!)
privateering (still)
miss you blues
corned beef
go love
hot or what
yon two crows
kingdom of gold
got to have something (damn i like that boogie!!)
i used to could (nice playing by Kim Wilson)
Gator Blood (recording somehow sounds as if it was down from below a can??)
Blue Bird (like it..parts of it remind me of..what was it called...mmm, ... that song where it sounds as if he slurs drunkingly, somethingfrom shangri la...again, nice playing by kim wilson)
Dream of the drowned submariner (normally don't like these slowish ballades, but this one has enough licks in it)
blood and water
today is okay
after the beanstalk
hill farmers Blues ( :lol )
do not like..
not sure about "Seattle". think i need to hear it whole. by the way, that is Ruth moody on there, right??
Radio city serenade
all in all a very positive balance...
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Deluxe version (3 CD's) has just been listed on Play.com - currently no sign of the box set but I am keeping my fingers well and truly crossed!
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do not like..
not sure about "Seattle". think i need to hear it whole. by the way, that is Ruth moody on there, right??
Radio city serenade
all in all a very positive balance...
I wonder how Radio City Serenade would sound when David Knopfler would have been singing it... From what I've heard so far, the one-and-a-half minute, DK's voice could be the perfect one for the song. I know, it's a silly thought. :lol
When talking about songs and reminders, Blood and Water reminded me a little of Are We In Trouble Now.
Anyway, we're here to discuss the DeLuxe Box (which I think I will NOT buy this time, maybe later on). Quite expensive and actually, the songs end up in my iPod and the box on a shelf. It's a shame, I know... ::)
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I wonder how Radio City Serenade would sound when David Knopfler would have been singing it... From what I've heard so far, the one-and-a-half minute, DK's voice could be the perfect one for the song. I know, it's a silly thought. :lol
HOW can you spoil that song for me in this brutal manner!! :lol Please, don't tell me stuff like this, it will circulating in my head and who knows what will come up from it...
LE
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LOL ;D
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I got a hold of the release plan from Universal Sweden.
Mark Knopfler / Privateering
06025 370 432-1 7 Mercury UK FHO Rel 5/9 Nytt studioalbum
06025 370 811-8 9 Ltd Ed med bonus-cd / hardbook
06025 370 877-8 5 Dubbelvinyl
Release in Sweden will be on the 5th of September. BUT! It looks like at least Sweden may be missing out on the Box Set >:(
It may as well happen to other countries too...
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Not necessary Border Reiver, in the Netherlands it appeared a couple of days maybe a week later than the other versions
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I missed out on the British vs. German Amazon discussions. It got a bit confusing... Things seemed unclear.
From where should I pre-order??
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Just wait a little, maybe Sweden will do, otherwise I think amazon.de is best for you (distance not too far and price in Germany is ok
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Deluxe version (3 CD's) has just been listed on Play.com - currently no sign of the box set but I am keeping my fingers well and truly crossed!
Cant find it in play.com...
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As it's expected, the SHM-CD will contain 21 tracks
11. Bonus track (schedule information)
http://www.hmv.co.jp/artist_Mark-Knopfler_000000000015654/item_Privateering_5111490
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICR-1098
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No EPK in the dvd?
No Live rehearsals in the deluxe box?
So, I
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Sounds incomplete: bol.com says:
Tracklist
Disk 1
1. Redbud Tree
2. Haul Away
3. Don't Forget Your Hat
4. Privateering
5. Miss You Blues
6. Corned Beef City
7. Go, Love
8. Hot Or What
9. Yon Two Crows
10. Seattle
Disk 2
1. Kingdom Of Gold
2. Got To Have Something
3. Radio City Serenade
4. I Used To Could
5. Gator Blood
6. Bluebird
7. Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
8. Blood And Water
9. Today Is Okay
10. After The Beanstalk
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
Disk 4
1. Redbud Tree
2. Haul Away
3. Don't Forget Your Hat
4. Privateering
5. Miss You Blues
6. Corned Beef City
7. Go, Love
8. Hot Or What
9. Yon Two Crows
10. Seattle
Disk 5
1. Kingdom Of Gold
2. Got To Have Something
3. Radio City Serenade
4. I Used To Could
5. Gator Blood
6. Bluebird
7. Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
8. Blood And Water
9. Today Is Okay
10. After The Beanstalk
1 and 2 is standard CD, 3 is bonus CD, 4 and 5 is vinyl, then it says:
Standard Cd (is 1 and 2)
2LP Vinyl (is 4 and 5)
Bonus-cd met 3 extra tracks (?? they have disc 3 with 7 songs like the deluxe)
Dvd: documentaire 'A Life In Songs'
Genummerde prints
Creditcard met een exclusieve code om een volledig concert te downloaden
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Sounds incomplete: bol.com says:
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Bonus-cd met 3 extra tracks (?? they have disc 3 with 7 songs like the deluxe)
I think that what MKNEWS has must be the real information, as it comes from the official sources. I wish they were wrong and bol.com are right but its unlikely...
About the bonus cd with 3 extra tracks, its the one that comes with the box, not the third cd with the live rehearsals, they are different cds in different editions.
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Strange thing is that bol.com is talking about a cd with 3 extra tracks and then giving a setlist of a CD with 7 songs.
No one seems to know. :disbelief
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Damn...I was hoping they would confirm which territories would get which formats. Aargh!
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Now it`s on Marks Homepage , same informations as on mk.news...plus : A special note for our US members: MarkKnopfler.com will be the ONLY source to buy all four formats in the United States. UK fans are also able to pre-order the box set from Universal Music.
But no list of the 3 extra tracks on the bonus-cd from the box-set...
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Strange thing is that bol.com is talking about a cd with 3 extra tracks and then giving a setlist of a CD with 7 songs.
No one seems to know. :disbelief
They are different cds...
The cd with three extra tracks comes ONLY with the box
The cd with 5 songs (live rehearsals) comes ONLY with the deluxe
Right now, bol.com is the only one telling that cd has 7 songs...
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Just announced at MarkKnopfler.com It seems that the differences between each site that sells it were just misinformation. A standard edition for all the world (USA fans can only buy it through Markknopfler.com.) And the prices are not bad!
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Just ordered from MK.com! Both editions.
Even if they are slow sometimes, this time around they honestly were not (with the info) and they are actually doing a darn good job with presales and now a clearified pre-order.
Support the official sources rather than the "online dragons" ;D
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Just ordered from MK.com too. They've always supplied the best seats in the house so I figure paying them
back with my business is the least I can do.
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We don't owe them anything, we have paid very well for those best seats of the house!
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This is said on mk.com : As a special bonus, when you pre-order the standard or deluxe editions of the Privateering CD, you will receive priority seating when you purchase tickets to Mark's upcoming tour.
And then a list where you can preorder inclusive the special seating :D. Does somebody knows, how many priority seats you can get ? Only one would be too less for me, I need at least 2 seats...no not only for me ;D, I would go with my husband...
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Where do you read this Mona?
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This is said on mk.com : As a special bonus, when you pre-order the standard or deluxe editions of the Privateering CD, you will receive priority seating when you purchase tickets to Mark's upcoming tour.
And then a list where you can preorder inclusive the special seating :D. Does somebody knows, how many priority seats you can get ? Only one would be too less for me, I need at least 2 seats...no not only for me ;D, I would go with my husband...
The same when you buy your Privateering album at fnac.fr
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Where do you read this Mona?
Sorry, wasn`t on the homepage...It`s from the newsletter that I received at 21:27 h today...
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Privateering CD Presale Promotion
As a special bonus, when you pre-order the standard or deluxe editions of the Privateering CD, you will receive priority seating when you purchase tickets to Mark's upcoming tour.
To take advantage of this special opportunity, place your pre-order with the MarkKnopfler.com Store or with one of the participating retailers listed below. Then, on your country's album release day, you'll be sent a unique code and more details on how you can secure great seats to Mark's 2013 European tour.
Pre-order Mark Knopfler's Privateering
Country
(Release Date) Participating Retailer
Austria (August 31, 2012) Amazon.at
France (September 03, 2012) FNAC
Germany (August 31, 2012) Amazon.de
Italy (September 04, 2012) Amazon.it
The Netherlands (August 31, 2012) Bol
Sweden (September 05, 2012) CDON
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This was not in my newsletter that came on 20.26 :disbelief
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Nice!
Let the pre presale anxiety begin ;D
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Nothing about that at amazon.de, so I wrote an email and asked about it. If this doesn`t work with amazon.de, I will cancel it and preorder at mk.com...I want the priority seats ;D
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And I am from the Netherlands! And what about the presale on mk.com, what's coming first?
Bol.com assured me by the way that I would get a presale
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And I am from the Netherlands! And what about the presale on mk.com, what's coming first?
Bol.com assured me by the way that I would get a presale
yes, you are right, priority seats will be limited...how good is a code if the seats are sold out....I have to wait for amazon`s answer, maybe there will be a presale included...if not, box-set from amazon, spezial edition from mk.com...so I am with "belt and braces" ;D
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I don't get it, are there more people who don't see this presale tickets thing in their newsletter?
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Privateering CD Presale Promotion
As a special bonus, when you pre-order the standard or deluxe editions of the Privateering CD, you will receive priority seating when you purchase tickets to Mark's upcoming tour.
To take advantage of this special opportunity, place your pre-order with the MarkKnopfler.com Store or with one of the participating retailers listed below. Then, on your country's album release day, you'll be sent a unique code and more details on how you can secure great seats to Mark's 2013 European tour.
Pre-order Mark Knopfler's Privateering
Country
(Release Date) Participating Retailer
Austria (August 31, 2012) Amazon.at
France (September 03, 2012) FNAC
Germany (August 31, 2012) Amazon.de
Italy (September 04, 2012) Amazon.it
The Netherlands (August 31, 2012) Bol
Sweden (September 05, 2012) CDON
I am not sure at all about the ''great seats''.
They will probably give you seats which are close to the stage which is not necessarily better soundwise
depending on the venue.
Yes, we talked about that lately...close to the stage with Bob D. would be bad, with Mark is ok...that was my resume...more or less...
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yep, ordered my normal deluxe box there, am not taking ANY chances!
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Now here's a plausible paradox.
The code for presale will be available upon release. But!
The MK.com presales may as well start earlier making it a total gamble for the best seats.
MK.com membership VS. the Code
???
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the security crewopening the doors sometimes know nothing about the presales so if you want to be in the first standing raws (in France for example), you could lose the chance to be at the first raw !
It almost happened last year in Lille !
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In Hamburg there was no standing raw last year, only seats...more for the old ones ;)...so no problem here
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yep, ordered my normal deluxe box there, am not taking ANY chances!
;D normal deluxe box ;D the 5th edition ?? the one with the plastic bus ;D
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In Sweden they have been well informed all the way down to the security staff.
I guess it depends on the local promoter and venue.
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Nothing about that at amazon.de, so I wrote an email and asked about it. If this doesn`t work with amazon.de, I will cancel it and preorder at mk.com...I want the priority seats ;D
The answer is there, amazon.de is really fast with answering...but they don`t know anything about codes and priority seats :(
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Well, I understand the hustle, there is a list of retailers that are doing the "seat" thing, and amazon.de is within the list. So no problem if you ordered there! I did and I am sure I will get a mail on Aug 31st... And I am pretty sure pre-sale will not start before that date...
LE
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Well, I understand the hustle, there is a list of retailers that are doing the "seat" thing, and amazon.de is within the list. So no problem if you ordered there! I did and I am sure I will get a mail on Aug 31st... And I am pretty sure pre-sale will not start before that date...
LE
According to fnac.com, presales will start on the 4th of september
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This was not in my newsletter that came on 20.26 :disbelief
Neither me.
Did I understand well, that this time if you don't pre-order something you won't have access to presale even through mk.com? Another dirty trick to sale more album.
I feel soooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired.
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Hmm. I would make the usual 3000 new users and one-post-posters within 30 minutes in such times make at least know the artist by buying one of his items...
Oh, I am just kidding, and I see your point!
LE
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It's not on my newsletter either and Amazon UK is also not on the list of participating retailers! Also, am I correct in thinking that you have to buy the album in order to get a priority seat - not just be a VIP member of MK.com as previously? ::)
I notice that it states that the album will be shipped on or around release date 4th September, so that means it will arrive about a week later, going on previous MK.com delivery dates! Release date in UK is 3rd September!
I feel confused this morning! ::)
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I asked PC and the store why the newsletters are different. If I get an answer I let you know.
It's really annoying ::) I could imagine a difference in countries. In England there's no partner organizing a priorityseating, so there's no useful information. But I am living in the Netherlands, so the Newsletter that I didn't become contains relevant information for me. (I got one because you all here on this forum are the best people in the world)
In the newssection of Markknopfler.com it also says that tourdates and information about the presale will be announced soon.
I really hope they will do all tourdates in one, so we can make a good planning of travelling ;D
I think we will have a presale like other years as well.
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Thanks Ingrid. I wonder if the special code is available to use for multiple concerts.
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I ordered the deluxe edition at fnac.com (I canceled my amazon order) and the super deluxe at mk.com so I think I will get at least one presale code !
I remember that presales for the MK/EH tour in 2006 was also on fnac.com.
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El Macho, I don't want to spoil your happiness, but the newsletter from mk.com says you get prioritycode when ordering standard or deluxe edition. It doens't say you get a code when ordering the superdeluxe-edition :disbelief I can't imagine why this is, maybe wrong information.
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Thanks Ingrid. I wonder if the special code is available to use for multiple concerts.
I think only the people in the countries where there are partners will receive a code and I think only one concert will be possible (hopefully more seats (2 to 4) with the code! PM me your e-mail-address, I am not sure I have the right one, so I can forward you the other newsletter I received from a friend.
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El Macho, I don't want to spoil your happiness, but the newsletter from mk.com says you get prioritycode when ordering standard or deluxe edition. It doens't say you get a code when ordering the superdeluxe-edition :disbelief I can't imagine why this is, maybe wrong information.
That's why I ordered the deluxe edition at fnac.com ! Maybe the priority code will also be given to the super deluxe edition buyers, I think it's a omission, don't you think?
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Sounds ridiculous not to give a code to those who buy the most expensive version ::)
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You get the same info all 4 pages so I assume that all versions are concerned.
BUT the code is valid for ONE concert only :
"* Les codes promotionnels seront distribu
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So I will have 2 presales codes with mk.com and fnac !
:lol
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So I will have 2 presales codes with mk.com and fnac !
:lol
Yes, but only for one country if I read the newsletter from mk.com well. And I suppose we will also have the normal presale at mk.com which for me always leaded to seat in row 1 to 4
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El Macho, I don't want to spoil your happiness, but the newsletter from mk.com says you get prioritycode when ordering standard or deluxe edition. It doens't say you get a code when ordering the superdeluxe-edition :disbelief I can't imagine why this is, maybe wrong information.
I read in the newspaper, that you will get a code, when you buy the standard or deluxe editions...so I hope it`s for both deluxe and super deluxe ...
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and amazon.de still does not know anything about it :( although it`s on the newsletter-list
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El Macho, I don't want to spoil your happiness, but the newsletter from mk.com says you get prioritycode when ordering standard or deluxe edition. It doens't say you get a code when ordering the superdeluxe-edition :disbelief I can't imagine why this is, maybe wrong information.
I read in the newspaper, that you will get a code, when you buy the standard or deluxe editions...so I hope it`s for both deluxe and super deluxe ...
noooo not "newspaper" , I meant the mk-newsletter
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So I will have 2 presales codes with mk.com and fnac !
:lol
Yes, but only for one country if I read the newsletter from mk.com well. And I suppose we will also have the normal presale at mk.com which for me always leaded to seat in row 1 to 4
I'd like to but I fear that this time MK.com won't get served with the very best seats [as it happened for the MK/BD seats last year].
I guess that these will be reserved for the Privateering album buyers first, then MK.com will get "second choice" alotment on sale a few days later and then the general sales.
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My tickets weren't too bad, 2x first row, one time 4th row but way too the left, one standing and I believe another 4th or 5th row.
You have to keep in mind that also BD-fans were able to buy presale tix at that time
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According to a reliable source of mine the 3 extra tracks are
OCCUPATION BLUES
RIVER OF GROG
FOLLOW THE RIBBON
So, the source was AMIT? ;D
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I asked PC and the store why the newsletters are different. If I get an answer I let you know.
It's really annoying ::) I could imagine a difference in countries. In England there's no partner organizing a priorityseating, so there's no useful information. But I am living in the Netherlands, so the Newsletter that I didn't become contains relevant information for me. (I got one because you all here on this forum are the best people in the world)
In the newssection of Markknopfler.com it also says that tourdates and information about the presale will be announced soon.
I really hope they will do all tourdates in one, so we can make a good planning of travelling ;D
I think we will have a presale like other years as well.
planning of travelling ?? I`m new here (but not newborn anymore :) ) so I have to ask : do you and other members use to see more than one show and/or meet somewhere ???
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I asked PC and the store why the newsletters are different. If I get an answer I let you know.
It's really annoying ::) I could imagine a difference in countries. In England there's no partner organizing a priorityseating, so there's no useful information. But I am living in the Netherlands, so the Newsletter that I didn't become contains relevant information for me. (I got one because you all here on this forum are the best people in the world)
In the newssection of Markknopfler.com it also says that tourdates and information about the presale will be announced soon.
I really hope they will do all tourdates in one, so we can make a good planning of travelling ;D
I think we will have a presale like other years as well.
planning of travelling ?? I`m new here (but not newborn anymore :) ) so I have to ask : do you and other members use to see more than one show and/or meet somewhere ???
Hi Mona! Yes, many of us on AMIT attend multiple concerts and it is nice to meet up with eachother for a drink or a meal before/after the show. It is yet another of the pleasures of being an MK fan and being on AMIT! Maybe we will meet somewhere! :)
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Yes Mona you are here in a community where people go 1 to 40 times to the same concert :D :D
In 2010 there was one canadian fan who did all concerts of the whole tour, but he's not here on AMIT often.
I do something in between most of the time, something like 12 to 16 times. So I already met a lot of people around Europe.
One of the best/busiest meetings was Amsterdam 2008 when a lot of people wanted to go to the first concert. Very popular and busy meeting is when Royal Albert Hall concerts start ;)
So who knows we will meet
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Yes Mona you are here in a community where people go 1 to 40 times to the same concert :D :D
In 2010 there was one canadian fan who did all concerts of the whole tour, but he's not here on AMIT often.
I do something in between most of the time, something like 12 to 16 times. So I already met a lot of people around Europe.
One of the best/busiest meetings was Amsterdam 2008 when a lot of people wanted to go to the first concert. Very popular and busy meeting is when Royal Albert Hall concerts start ;)
So who knows we will meet
WOW, great idea, let`s see the dates and places and I will think it over... Hamburg is for me a must, Amsterdam would be nice, too, I`ve never been there ...
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Maybe I will do Hamburg (for the first time). I know someone in Hamburg who travelled through Iceland with me and he would like to go there as well and show me around Hamburg. But I always try to combine some concerts and prefer weekenddays. I will definately do the Netherlands (how many will there be, last time 3 days), Belgium, Oberhausen, Londen 2 or 3 and south England 1 or 2. Rest will be decided when I know the dates. Cologne is hard to resist (only 2 hours drive or so). We will see ;D
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frankfurt, maybe berlin again ingrid? etc...etc... :lol :lol :lol
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You want to do the 400 sprint on flipflops again? I have to start training, I was quicker on sprint but you were having a better condition.
Maybe maybe, don't know yet, also depends on days of the week, but you know how it works, when I start to buy tix I can't stop.
Another SURE for me is Switzerland, hopefully 2 again.
When I count the sures it's already 12, depending on how many south england there will be and how many concerts in the Netherlands.
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And I really dream about one in Reykjavik, my beloved country. Only done once by DS :disbelief
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For me Hamburg, Oberhausen and probably London...
LE
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Hi all, if you don't receive the newsletter with the info about the code then you didn't enter the countrycode when signing in to the newsletter. That's what mk.com answered me. So my idea they only send it to countries where partners offer this code is right.
But I will receive a code they promised me :D
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El Macho, I don't want to spoil your happiness, but the newsletter from mk.com says you get prioritycode when ordering standard or deluxe edition. It doens't say you get a code when ordering the superdeluxe-edition :disbelief I can't imagine why this is, maybe wrong information.
NO!!!
Quote from MK.com:
As a special bonus, when you pre-order the standard or deluxe editions of the Privateering CD, you will receive priority seating when you purchase tickets to Mark's upcoming tour.
So of course you will take part of the priority seating when you order the Super Deluxe Edition. Everything else would have been bullshit. It is just one small but important letter..
LE
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You are right LE.
But only when you live in the countries mentioned in the newsletter
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That is true of course. And I do! ;D
I wonder if ordering several versions (for friends and family etc.) brings you several codes for several shows? Has someone worked that out already?
LE
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I don't know but I suppose you get more codes. I am going to ask bol.com
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I phoned bol.com: if you order it separate you will get an extra coe. If you order all versions at the same time you only get one code.
So it works with every single order.
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And I really dream about one in Reykjavik, my beloved country. Only done once by DS :disbelief
I've been In Iceland with my wife for our honeymoon ! Magic landscapes, incredible country...
It would be nice to attend a MK concert at the blue lagoon ! :lol
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I phoned bol.com: if you order it separate you will get an extra coe. If you order all versions at the same time you only get one code.
So it works with every single order.
Cool! Thanks, Ingrid, you are a real trouper!!
Now I will ask some people if they already have ordered the new MK album! ;)
LE
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But keep in mind that in my opinion the code is only for your own country, but in case of we can help each other, you order for me, I order for you ;D
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For the Australian fan....
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/support.aspx?post=1&results=10&q=privateering&source=all&bnSearch.x=0&bnSearch.y=0&bnSearch=Go%21
The Super Deluxe is listed at $94 AU- which is about half the price for our European friends ??? :o
I`m still going to see if I can deal directly with my local store, i hate waiting for these online thingies to turn up!
Edit - no its not half at all, I`m a bit late with the exchange rate fluctuations!!!
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NO!!!
Quote from MK.com:
As a special bonus, when you pre-order the standard or deluxe editions of the Privateering CD, you will receive priority seating when you purchase tickets to Mark's upcoming tour.
So of course you will take part of the priority seating when you order the Super Deluxe Edition. Everything else would have been bullshit. It is just one small but important letter..
LE
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I'm afraid you may be wrong here LE (sorry)! The pluralisation of "deluxe editions" probably is there to cover the fact that they have listed the standard edition too. Therefore: standard and deluxe should include an "s" to indicate the plural/more than one, but not necessarily both the deluxe editions.
This whole scenario is seemingly either one big cock up or the record company conning the hard core fans. I think the latter. Guy should know, he is our only link.
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You do not honestly think that you really will get a proper answer from Fletcher about this? It will probably sound like "Oh, I don' t know", "not interested in these things" or "I'm sure there will be something nice"...
I guess it will just be wait and see!
LE
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You do not honestly think that you really will get a proper answer from Fletcher about this? It will probably sound like "Oh, I don' t know", "not interested in these things" or "I'm sure there will be something nice"...
I guess it will just be wait and see!
LE
Whatever transpires, at the end of the day I'm sure it is us hardcores who will be taken advantage of. >:(
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You do not honestly think that you really will get a proper answer from Fletcher about this? It will probably sound like "Oh, I don' t know", "not interested in these things" or "I'm sure there will be something nice"...
I guess it will just be wait and see!
LE
Whatever transpires, at the end of the day I'm sure it is us hardcores who will be taken advantage of. >:(
I fear you are right, but as a hardcore fan I am already bent over and ready to receive.
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bend over beachboy!
:o
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You do not honestly think that you really will get a proper answer from Fletcher about this? It will probably sound like "Oh, I don' t know", "not interested in these things" or "I'm sure there will be something nice"...
I guess it will just be wait and see!
LE
Whatever transpires, at the end of the day I'm sure it is us hardcores who will be taken advantage of. >:(
So, I assume I should not consider me as a "fan" anymore as I don't play their ugly game.
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I'm not playing either. I 've ordered the 2 CD and will wait until, hopefully, the Super Deluxe is reduced in price later! ;)
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According to the official site, The new album was released On the 9th of April?? ;D
Anyway despite the day being the 3rd, not 4th release in the UK they also say that they will "ship" on that date. So the big question is: when will we get our goods? Amazon promise "delivery" on day of release, ie the 3rd. Don't tell me they'll post the goods from Canada!!
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Don't tell me they'll post the goods from Canada!!
Most unlikely. Might be shipping somewhere from the UK. I found the shipping cost to be low. But no one knows.
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Don't tell me they'll post the goods from Canada!!
I wouldn't be too surprised - they have in the past! ;)
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Don't tell me they'll post the goods from Canada!!
I wouldn't be too surprised - they have in the past! ;)
I thought so, and the merchandise will be posted from there. This will mean we in the UK will be about a week late in receiving our copies if we order through the official site!
Amazon are charging over
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What a wonder, the Mercury official site has sent me this just after I ordered from the MK.com. It offeres the super deluxe edition for 60 Euros!!!MK.com offers it for 65!!! But haven't checked the shipping cost. The MK.com has real good shipping! (5.8 Euros for the box-10.80 Euros for all the editions, together)
And here is another question, I thought that MK.com said something like "US fans can only find these editions through MK.com" Mercury is the American branch company, isn't it?
http://store.universal-music.co.uk/euro/privateering/mark-knopfler-privateering-super-deluxe-box-set/invt/0602537043231/?utm_source=MarkKnopfler090812&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Privateering+Box+Set&utm_content=UMGUK7189-237240
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Mercury is the American branch company, isn't it?
No, this is Warner in the US
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Mercury is the American branch company, isn't it?
No, this is Warner in the US
Thanks for making it clear ds1984. But still, there is the thing with exclusivity and most importantly PRICE! They are both official so what's the point in doing this "competition" from that early on? It is not as if they are going to drive the price down!!!!Fishy in the air...
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"Thanks for placing an order with Universal Music."
No, thank you!!!
Now I eagerly await the arrival of my Privateering super deluxe edition.. :)
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Too much days without digging here...
So it finally looks like if you really wants everything, you must buy at least two versions, the deluxe version of 3cd and the box.
Also looks like several shops are pricing it quite cheaper than the GL box except amazon.fr and fnac that have prices of 90 euros... i wonder if they will reduce the price from here to the release date. We already sent messages to amazon.fr telling them about the lower prices, but without any success...
I stick with my early decision. I
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No need.
amazon.it sells it now for EUR 56
That's good...
We will have to buy two versions indeed.
But hey, EUR 56 for Super Deluxe and EUR 20 for Deluxe...
GL Box was EUR 85 or something...
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No need.
amazon.it sells it now for EUR 56
That's good...
I think its the cheaper price by far...
with shipping costs to Spain is 63.22, more cheaper than amazon.de...
But amazon.de ships before...
Does it worth the wait to save almost 10 euros?
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Normally it is EUR 7 to Spain
Or Europe
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When I order at Amazon.it the Box will sent out in Germany.
It is strange but it's fact.
Maybe you will get it faster as well.
In Germany it will be shipped August 30th
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When I order at Amazon.it the Box will sent out in Germany.
It is strange but it's fact.
Maybe you will get it faster as well.
In Germany it will be shipped August 30th
Excuse me, do you mean that the box will be sent out from Germany?
It happens to me with Amazon Spain. Everything comes shipped from France :o
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Because amazon.it and bol.nl gave the information about the codes for priority seating when pre-ordering the deluxe-edition, I again asked amazon.de via email about their newest information or decision...and I asked them, if it will be with the deluxe-boxset as well...I`m starting to get nervous, I want this code !!
If amazon.it-buyers are going to get the box from Germany, why then different product-informations ???
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No, it depends on where you live.
I live in Germany and when I order at amazon.it they will nevertheless ship it from Germany.
When you live in Spain for example it will be shipped from Spain or France.
Depends on
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No, it depends on where you live.
I live in Germany and when I order at amazon.it they will nevertheless ship it from Germany.
When you live in Spain for example it will be shipped from Spain or France.
Depends on
In my case, when ordering from amazon.de I got an arriving date between 5 and 10 of september... I will check with amazon.it.
Amazon Spain or Fnac Spain dont have any information yet...
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Just e-mailed to the Fnac Spain store... a friend of mine went to a store and they told him the box will be priced around 105 euros...
Double-priced!!!!
I just warned that some of the Amazon stores and the official site are selling it at the half...
In the meantime... I couldnt resist, and ordered the box to Amazon Italy, I think I could wait some more days if I can get it cheaper...
I still keep the German pre-order, just in case they reduce the price ;D
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only 45 more posts Jbaent!
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Because amazon.it and bol.nl gave the information about the codes for priority seating when pre-ordering the deluxe-edition, I again asked amazon.de via email about their newest information or decision...and I asked them, if it will be with the deluxe-boxset as well...I`m starting to get nervous, I want this code !!
If amazon.it-buyers are going to get the box from Germany, why then different product-informations ???
I just received the answer from amazon.de >:( : they don`t know anything about it >:( , that can not be !!!! Why do amazon.it knows about the code and amazon.de doesn` t ? I can`t believe it .....
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Because amazon.it and bol.nl gave the information about the codes for priority seating when pre-ordering the deluxe-edition, I again asked amazon.de via email about their newest information or decision...and I asked them, if it will be with the deluxe-boxset as well...I`m starting to get nervous, I want this code !!
If amazon.it-buyers are going to get the box from Germany, why then different product-informations ???
I just received the answer from amazon.de >:( : they don`t know anything about it >:( , that can not be !!!! Why do amazon.it knows about the code and amazon.de doesn` t ? I can`t believe it .....
Mona Dee, I promise to give you my code, if you don't get one, OK? I don't think MK will come to Greece for a concert and I really can't afford traveling abroad to see him. Of course there is a slim chance that he comes...
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He should go to Greece, if you ask me, I spent some holidays there, and I always loved it ! And thank you for offering me the code :D .
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Hi all,
As you know what bol.com in the Netherlands advertises is different from mk.com and others. I sent them an e-mail and today I got a phonecall from ... another MK-fan working at bol.com. Not a real die-hard like we are here, but she saw my mail and thought: this is mine. She has send some e-mails to the recordcompany and others to find out if the site is wrong or that they have a different edition of the extra CD at the deluxe.
I told her I ordered 2 versions at bol.com because of the priority-seating-code and guess: she was shocked and said you have to pay delivery twice then. I said yes, but otherwise I only receive one code. Then she gave me a gift-voucher online ;-) Good service or what ;-))
I will keep you update, after the weekend she will call me back with some answers :)
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I thought orders above 20 euro are free from delivery costs. That's what they advertise with.
Then about the track list on Bol. I think they are wrong. Who can know the track list better?
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I order at bol.com deluxe (free of delivery) and a standard with deliverycosts. Deluxe I order at bol.com, so maybe I will order the vinyl now as well. ;D ;D
She wasn't sure about it, and because the deluxe in the Netherlands is way overpriced at bol.com (29,99) maybe we have a better edition. This is only dreaming, I'm almost sure bol.com is wrong :-\
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Good News !!! Finally the information about special ticket presale is posted at amazon.de : preorder any edition of P until August 30st and you will get the code via email between Aug. 31st and Sept. 4th. Tourdates inclusive. You have to order the tickets on Sept. 5 and/or 6 at mk.com. You can buy up to 6 tickets ! All fine now ;D
http://www.amazon.de/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_170777487_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1000662543&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=0ZE2HTVK5XWR2X9ZEXXA&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=320254267&pf_rd_i=B008HOR7UM
A question to the members with experiences ;) : can you choose the seat/row in your ticketorder at mk.com ?
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No Mona, till now we couldn't choose seats, it was waiting what you get and it takes looooong ::)
With me, most of the times it turned out pretty well, first 4 rows and sometimes 1st row
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Ok, then it will be a surprise ...
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I thought orders above 20 euro are free from delivery costs. That's what they advertise with.
Then about the track list on Bol. I think they are wrong. Who can know the track list better?
I know how to get free delivery there. It works everytime ;) The free delivery code changes every month...
You just have to change the same numbers ;D
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Explain me by e-mail please ;D
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Ok, then it will be a surprise ...
For me a shock. Last twice (when seated) my seats were front row but far to the side. So much so that I would have preferred a dozen rows back but near the centre. Poor view at the end with a loudspeaker in front of you. I think this is an ill thought out system. Of course it could be made better by us being able to choose our seats from the selected area but that would be more complicated for those who work at the other end. ::)
For this reason I don't care where I buy my copy now, so long as I get it quickly and at a good price.
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Ok, then it will be a surprise ...
Indeed it will. During the Get Lucky presale, it took them six weeks to work it out - which means that you got an e-mail with your seats after six weeks if I remember correctly. The Bob tour last year wasn't that long waiting...
It is always a feeling like christmas when opening that mail - most of the people are happy with the results, but sometimes it could have been better. But we are spoiled in a way and used to sit in front row(s), so everything that has a higher number than let's say row 4 is bullshit for most of the forumers...
Ironically I had row 26 in Hannover last year and it turned out to be one of my best concert experiences so far - which had a lot to do with Bob, but that's another story... ;)
LE
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Answer from MK.com about the priority tickets:
Sorry for the delay. The priority seating promotion is only valid for the countries listed in the email you received earlier this week, so you won't be able to use it for London, but you could use your code to purchase a ticket in Italy, for example. In the event that a venue is general admission standing, the offer will be for early entry, as you've guessed.
So that's a ticket in The Netherlands for me with early entry!
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So ordering tickets from mk.com and eventim.de (and choose the seats) and posting the worst ones at ebay !?!? It
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So ordering tickets from mk.com and eventim.de (and choose the seats) and posting the worst ones at ebay !?!? It
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So ordering tickets from mk.com and eventim.de (and choose the seats) and posting the worst ones at ebay !?!? It
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So ordering tickets from mk.com and eventim.de (and choose the seats) and posting the worst ones at ebay !?!? It
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[If you buy seats from MK.com, how is it possible to sell seats in this way, because to get into the venue, credit card and id are required?
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I didn`t know about that...
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but changes, with the help of mk.com, have been known to been made, so not entirely impossible..
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but changes, with the help of mk.com, have been known to been made, so not entirely impossible..
To refund the money, due to illness, or can't attend, yes, but to sell on another site,....?????
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Can anyone clarify after all the speculation please whats the difference between our MK.com option to book seats for concerts earlier than public sale and the presale code for the same by buying Privateering ?
It looks like a way to get more people besides us here, into pre-booking before public sale, is it not simply just the same option ?
Also are there any information if the coupon code for a live concert is for the same concert for everybody OR different concerts in play to choose from ?
Thanks ;)
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I think (but I
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I wonder why this information is not in the official site, if it was e-mailed to the fans...
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Can anyone clarify after all the speculation please whats the difference between our MK.com option to book seats for concerts earlier than public sale and the presale code for the same by buying Privateering ?
It looks like a way to get more people besides us here, into pre-booking before public sale, is it not simply just the same option ?
Also are there any information if the coupon code for a live concert is for the same concert for everybody OR different concerts in play to choose from ?
Thanks ;)
Regarding the live download, it's my opinion that the concert will be chosen by the band (mainly MK ;D) and will only be one concert - no choice. They aren't going to let us hear just "any" gig from the tour, are they? They want to sit down, listen closely to all of them and choose the best one of the tour.
I've decided this isn't such a great super deluxe set after all since we already have so many great recordings from this tour and the set was disappointing for me anyway.
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I've decided this isn't such a great super deluxe set after all since we already have so many great recordings from this tour and the set was disappointing for me anyway.
So you are sure it will be the Get Lucky tour or the 2011 Bob tour?
LE
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I've decided this isn't such a great super deluxe set after all since we already have so many great recordings from this tour and the set was disappointing for me anyway.
So you are sure it will be the Get Lucky tour or the 2011 Bob tour?
LE
I was under the impression we had decided it would be the 2011 tour? Maybe not... :-\
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I've decided this isn't such a great super deluxe set after all since we already have so many great recordings from this tour and the set was disappointing for me anyway.
So you are sure it will be the Get Lucky tour or the 2011 Bob tour?
LE
I was under the impression we had decided it would be the 2011 tour? Maybe not... :-\
I hope it is, if its from the GL tour, it could happen that we already have it, so, if its 2011, better!
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Or maybe one of the new shows in 2013??? Why not?
LE
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Hmmm, I'm glad I decided against the Super Deluxe because I have 12 Simfy concerts from GL and lots of pretty good sounding downloads from the 2011 tour. The only thing I really would have liked from the box were the three extra songs.
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Or maybe one of the new shows in 2013??? Why not?
LE
It could be, but seems unlikely because if you put something in a deluxe box that someone is gonna buy right now, you might put inside things that can be "obtained" right now, not in a year...
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To all the Germans around here, and also everybody who ordered from Amazon.de
Since Amazon Italy is selling the box around 10 euros cheaper, did you used the "notify a lower price" utility in amazon?
There is also an option to contact them (with a formulary) where this can be notified.
If its useful, many of you would save some money that can be well invested in next tour ;D
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We have "pre-order Price Guarantee", os if the price lowers until release day, we will have to pay that low price? Or do you mean other countries? I am not willing to wait another 3, 5 or 10 days to get my box... August 31st is long enough...
LE
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We have "pre-order Price Guarantee", os if the price lowers until release day, we will have to pay that low price? Or do you mean other countries? I am not willing to wait another 3, 5 or 10 days to get my box... August 31st is long enough...
LE
Yes, we have that guarantee but Italian price is cheaper, if you use that option to inform them, maybe Amazon will change the price to the cheaper one, you dont have any guarantee that they will do it, so if you inform them, maybe we could force them to check about it. I already did and I dont speak German... ;D
I also pre-ordered from Amazon Italy, just waiting for the best price, and the funny thing is that Amazon Italy tells me that their package will arrive to my house one day before than Amazon Germany says...
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Haven't found it yet...
LE
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Haven't found it yet...
LE
First choose the Privateering box, then scroll down until Produktinformation there you have the following option (between others)
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Ah thanks!
Will think about it tomorrow, now I am watching the Olympic show... (boring...)
LE
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Ah thanks!
Will think about it tomorrow, now I am watching the Olympic show... (boring...)
LE
The more German or people who ordered it in the German site fills that, more chances to get it at a lower price...
About the Olympic show, just wait for the BIG surprise ;D
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Hey, here is something innovative: When you order from MK.com, they get the money out of your credit card, (at least mine which is prepaid) RIGHT AWAY! This is a world first! At least all other sites have the courtesy to wait until they are about to send the product. I don't really understand it. Any ideas? Any lawyers in the company with corporate internet law knowledge?
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Hey, here is something innovative: When you order from MK.com, they get the money out of your credit card, (at least mine which is prepaid) RIGHT AWAY! This is a world first! At least all other sites have the courtesy to wait until they are about to send the product. I don't really understand it. Any ideas? Any lawyers in the company with corporate internet law knowledge?
If it is said in terms/agreements of the site and you agree with when you order and pay then they have the right to do it because you gave them permission to do so.
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You mean Danny and Phil Palmer playing with George Michael? Jbaent?
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Thanks - I will wait to order until there is more information about the details of the presale ticket benefits (if any compared to MK presale) and the live concert download as I do not need LP
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Just cancelled my pre-order of the box in Amazon.de, in Amazon Italy was cheaper and the delivery date was the same... So I stick with the Italian one unless Spanish shops list it cheaper or at least at the same price.
:)
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Yes, Guy confirmed Danny was there.
He also said on his forum that he doubts they will visit Australia in 2013 and gave some of his usual definitive answers to other questions:
Q. Good afternoon Mr. Fletcher, September 3d is approaching rapidly and I was wondering if you could help me out. I can hardly wait to rush to the record store to get my copy of "Privateering" but I was wondering if there will be different version for sale. I remember when I purchased "Get Lucky" there was the standard one and the one with the DVD included. Will there be also different versions of Privateering this time? Thanks a lot for the nice music and this website. Take care
A. To be honest, I have no idea
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Pretty stupid question, so deserved a stupid answer. Never heard of google, online shops who have the information or of course AMIT :D
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Pretty stupid question, so deserved a stupid answer. Never heard of google, online shops who have the information or of course AMIT :D
Well it was a stupid question but still deserved some kind of input from Guy I think! Surely he know a bit more than "no idea?"
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I am pretty sure he thought : ever heard of google??? Sigh ....
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I am pretty sure he thought : ever heard of google??? Sigh ....
The problem is that none of the vendors can tell you exactly what is in the super deluxe box, if that's what the question's hinting at.
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I am waiting for the answer of bol.com, I asked them and by coincidence a girl, also MK-fan, got that mail, so she is going to find out :D
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Remember that Guy is "only" the keyboard player and is not involved in the release process. Better to ask MK management or the record company.
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Yeah, "don't ask me, I'm only the piano player" ;D
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I just recived a reply from MK.com saying that the coupon code for live download most probably is going to be like this:
"My understanding is that the download is of a previous MK concert (I would guess from the Get Lucky tour). It will not be from MK's tour with Dylan or his own 2013 tour."
I already bought quite a few GL recordings, so I am going for the standard deluxe edition.
cheers Peter
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Thanks again Peter for making this clear too.
I also have a lot of GL-concerts, so that won't be very interesting to me either.
But want to have the box anyway, just to have it ::)
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For me it`s the same : I have got a GL-concert , but want to have the three bonus-tracks...
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All I would want from this box is the three bonus tracks. The rest is beginning to look less and less interesting now. :( I think I am speaking for a lot of us here after some initial excitement.
I wouldn't worry about missing out on the bonus tracks - they'll soon turn up. We eventually got to hear the "delightful" Time In the Sun, Good as Gold etc. ;)
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Just cancelled my pre-order of the box in Amazon.de, in Amazon Italy was cheaper and the delivery date was the same... So I stick with the Italian one unless Spanish shops list it cheaper or at least at the same price.
:)
Cancelled my pre-order from Amazon.fr 89,99Euros !!
Oredered on the Italian Amazon...Btw I'll have to wait a little longer.... Hopefuly I've saved little money ^^
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All I would want from this box is the three bonus tracks. The rest is beginning to look less and less interesting now. :( I think I am speaking for a lot of us here after some initial excitement.
I wouldn't worry about missing out on the bonus tracks - they'll soon turn up. We eventually got to hear the "delightful" Time In the Sun, Good as Gold etc. ;)
Normal Fan
13 euros for the full 20 songs album
DieHard Fan
an extra 70 euros for 5 live songs and 3 bonus tracks which could all have been put easily in the 3rd disc of 3-discs edition
Die hard fan who doesn't mind being exploited by the record companies marketing strategy (impo) :):
Deluxe + Super Deluxe editions
One who rebels against this strategy:
Deluxe (and eagerly awaits bonus songs appearing on the internet, or may buy the super later)
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Can they release an on the night box with
telegraph road tunnel of love sultans of swing planet of new orleans?
I'll pay 150 for that, even 200 if confetti are included
Now that would be worth the money! :P The way it should have been from the very start.
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fully agree. big mistake. as with friggin a night in london...or even the incomplete alchemy..
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At the moment I really think about just buying the simple double CD and wait for some reviews about WHAT live show download we will get. For me the three songs and the live download are the interesting things - I don't care for the vinyl and surely can live without the art print... So I think I will cancel my deluxe box and order the simple edition. That one I can give away to friends/family anytime and order the box if it will turn out great news, great three new songs or will get cheaper...
Decisions, decisions...
LE
Edit: Just found out it is 4 Euros more in Germany now - 68,99
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Today Fnac Spain puts their prices available:
- Deluxe box: 89.90 euros...
So I will keep my order from Amazon Italy at 62 euros, shipping costs included
- Deluxe edition: 39.90 euros...
Thats the one I thought I
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Today Fnac Spain puts their prices available:
- Deluxe box: 89.90 euros...
So I will keep my order from Amazon Italy at 62 euros, shipping costs included
- Deluxe edition: 39.90 euros...
Thats the one I thought I
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Oh great, another advanced special super suprise presale the official MK site had to clue about. This is going to be fun. I remember the chaos back in 2007... Well, let's wait and see... Still - not sure where to get the better seats, MK.com or amazon.de?? Why do they always mess things up? MK's promo people are idiots!!!
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Oh great, another advanced special super suprise presale the official MK site had to clue about. This is going to be fun. I remember the chaos back in 2007... Well, let's wait and see... Still - not sure where to get the better seats, MK.com or amazon.de?? Why do they always mess things up? MK's promo people are idiots!!!
And I guess we are idiots for trying to make sense, dealing with idiots. Peterromer got the answer,. Look for it :
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2533.0/topicseen.html
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Ah well, you can pick up a Deluxe Box whatever any time. During the GL tour the GL deluxe box was sold during the shows for
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Oh great, another advanced special super suprise presale the official MK site had to clue about. This is going to be fun. I remember the chaos back in 2007... Well, let's wait and see... Still - not sure where to get the better seats, MK.com or amazon.de?? Why do they always mess things up? MK's promo people are idiots!!!
And I guess we are idiots for trying to make sense, dealing with idiots. Peterromer got the answer,. Look for it :
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2533.0/topicseen.html
Thanks, didn't see it. Ordered the deluxe thingie, though... Oh well. Fits into my glass cabinet - I hope.
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bol.com answered me that they indeed had wrong specifications on their site.They chnaged the box, is now the same as mk.com. But the deluxe still contains 7 songs according to them (price is extremely high at bol.com 29,99 euro)
So I asked if we in the Netherlands have an extra 2 songs and if that's the reason for the higher price.
Will be continued ::)
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Just noticed that Amazon.co.uk now have the deluxe version at a rather more reasonable
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bol.com answered me that they indeed had wrong specifications on their site.They chnaged the box, is now the same as mk.com. But the deluxe still contains 7 songs according to them (price is extremely high at bol.com 29,99 euro)
So I asked if we in the Netherlands have an extra 2 songs and if that's the reason for the higher price.
Will be continued ::)
Haha, go Ingrid! ;D
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Oh well to get all on offer I've ordered the Deluxe edition with bonus cd and also the deluxe box set! Look forward to seing some of you next year during the Uk part of the tour. The plan is for my wife and I to see Mark at hopefully Bournemouth (our Hometown) and then all the dates in the RAH.
By the way I couldn't see it mentioned on here but the three tracks on disce three of the limited edition the Deluxe box set are:
Disc 3
01 Occupation Blues 4:22
02 River of Grog 3:42
03 Follow The Ribbon 8:07
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Then we will definately meet Knopflerfan, I will do a couple of RAH and if it fits south of EZngland (Bournemouth, Brighton)
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if i get the chance i would love to do brighton/bournemouth again !!
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Yes, it will be good to meet up with you all again. We were sat right behind you last time at Bournemouth. I spoke to Mr Pottel there and thats when I joined this fabulous site. We also met Superval too. Oh come on hurry up and announce the tour!!!!!
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Really? Normally it's vice versa: speaking to pottel leads to lots of leavings afterwards.... ;D
No, just kidding, there's no better chairman you could think of... :lol
LE
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Well I put an order in at my local music shop for the deluxe edition today. I've decided I don't need to spend an extra $50 for 3 songs!
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Can they release an on the night box with
telegraph road tunnel of love sultans of swing planet of new orleans?
I'll pay 150 for that, even 200 if confetti are included
I too of course would love that (on video).
Looking at the available set lists of Nimes and Rotterdamn, it is clear that Sultants, TR, TOL (as well as TYL, WICTY and FTB) were filmed.
There is no evidence, though, that PONO (and Iron Hand which I would really love too) were actually filmed... I'm missing one date setlist on Rotterdam, I asked the question once here to know whether somebody knew about whether there is a chance that Iron Hand was played, but i got no response.
I think there is a possibility for Iron Hand, but I have serious doubts for PONO, which I think was already dropped from the setlist at this point of time. Any clue ?
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marijn or ingrid should know, they were there (that i know of)
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Sure I was there, but I can't remember it (getting old, memories fade ... :o)
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Seems from the bootlegs the last versions of PONO was from Paris on 24th and 27.04.92. No version has surfaced after that date. Wasn't the 24th filmed for the 24 Heures documentary?
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I think they filmed the rehearsals and the backstage, I seriously doubt they filmed the actual concert...
Just watched again the "life in songs" documentary since it seems this is what we will get as a DVD from the super deluxe box, and it is a pity to see that they actually own Wembley'85 (2 smalls extracts are there) and do not release it in full...
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I think they filmed the rehearsals and the backstage, I seriously doubt they filmed the actual concert...
Just watched again the "life in songs" documentary since it seems this is what we will get as a DVD from the super deluxe box, and it is a pity to see that they actually own Wembley'85 (2 smalls extracts are there) and do not release it in full...
It's been a while but didn't we get a bit of Calling Elvis?
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It's been a while but didn't we get a bit of Calling Elvis?
Yes, the first notes... but it doesn't mean they recording the whole concert. Don't know actually...
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They said they recorded 29 shows, I remember well.
They recorded all available songs.
Vow, did not know that, good news indeed ! means that somewhere exists a soundboard of '91-92 TOL ? would be awesome !
But just to clarify, when you say "recorded" do you mean audio recording or filming ? I don't think they possibly filmed 29 shows...
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They said they recorded 29 shows, I remember well.
They recorded all available songs.
Vow, did not know that, good news indeed ! means that somewhere exists a soundboard of '91-92 TOL ? would be awesome !
But just to clarify, when you say "recorded" do you mean audio recording or filming ? I don't think they possibly filmed 29 shows...
Most of the shows they recorded must be the standard setlist... Look to the available soundboards from the OES tour, Woburn Abbey, Basel, Nimes, Earls Court, Oslo (On every planet)... all of them the standard setlist, the same one...
Looks like if they knew they were about to record, and they play that setlist...
By the way, they made an exception with You and your friend ;D
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Most of the shows they recorded must be the standard setlist... Look to the available soundboards from the OES tour, Woburn Abbey, Basel, Nimes, Earls Court, Oslo (On every planet)... all of them the standard setlist, the same one...
Looks like if they knew they were about to record, and they play that setlist...
By the way, they made an exception with You and your friend ;D
Well they made many exceptions, since they also filmed in Nimes and Rotterdam some concerts featuring TOL, FTB, TILYTM, WICTY... :) Never released them though :(
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Most of the shows they recorded must be the standard setlist... Look to the available soundboards from the OES tour, Woburn Abbey, Basel, Nimes, Earls Court, Oslo (On every planet)... all of them the standard setlist, the same one...
Looks like if they knew they were about to record, and they play that setlist...
By the way, they made an exception with You and your friend ;D
Well they made many exceptions, since they also filmed in Nimes and Rotterdam some concerts featuring TOL, FTB, TILYTM, WICTY... :) Never released them though :(
Think I love you too much would had been great, as it was a new song, and that version was rocker!!!!
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Think I love you too much would had been great, as it was a new song, and that version was rocker!!!!
You have a nice version of it on the Knebworth DVD ;)
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Think I love you too much would had been great, as it was a new song, and that version was rocker!!!!
You have a nice version of it on the Knebworth DVD ;)
No, the one from 1991-92 tour was far better, with that burning hammond, that nice bass intro, the guitars dueling between MK, Phil and Paul Franklin... Wow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6dRcR8mVFM
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Think I love you too much would had been great, as it was a new song, and that version was rocker!!!!
You have a nice version of it on the Knebworth DVD ;)
No, the one from 1991-92 tour was far better, with that burning hammond, that nice bass intro, the guitars dueling between MK, Phil and Paul Franklin... Wow...
I agree, a real nice blues number when played on the tour.
I seem to remember that the concert from the Copenhagen soundboard had TOL played that night but, of course only part of the concert was broadcast. :(
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"Think I Love You too Much" was a hell of a song. No putting that on the record was one of the more strange decisions in Mark's career. I love that album more than anything, but this I never quite understood. Anyway, there are enough great live versions to enjoy!
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"Think I Love You too Much" was a hell of a song. No putting that on the record was one of the more strange decisions in Mark's career. I love that album more than anything, but this I never quite understood. Anyway, there are enough great live versions to enjoy!
The best version IMO is Live at Snape with the Notting Hillbillies.
And yes I could have lived without Calling Elvis or Heavy fuel, and in their place the fantastic I think I love you too much.
Jeff Healey had a minor hit with it, even released a video clip for it. Why not DS?
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true vgonis. even though the addition of EC on the knebworth show was brilliant as well.
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Jeff Healey had a minor hit with it, even released a video clip for it. Why not DS?
The "official" reason was that the rest of the band did not like it too much so it was offered to Jeff.
Speaking of the NHB, DS version of "When It Comes To You" was far inferior to what they did.
I dream of a full release of the Snape gig.
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true vgonis. even though the addition of EC on the knebworth show was brilliant as well.
I reckon it actually sounds like an EC song, would be nice to hear him singing it - but otherwise just an ok blues number.
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true vgonis. even though the addition of EC on the knebworth show was brilliant as well.
I reckon it actually sounds like an EC song, would be nice to hear him singing it - but otherwise just an ok blues number.
I think it works well live because it just "rocks" basically, but I suppose the lyrics are nothing special so maybe on the album it would have been just average. We shall never know...
Funny thing is that when I met MK in 2001 after the concert in Glasgow I "told" him to put the song on the next album! Guess he must have forgot my instruction! :-[
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It's like releasing Private Dancer on a new MK album. Doesn't make sense actually (or does, depends on how much you like the song). ;) I recall ITILYTM was written by MK for Jeff Healey's album called Hell to Pay from 1990, so there is a studio version of the song.
But how the hell did we end up here? :P Has nothing to do with a deluxe edition or what? :lol
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it was not written "for" jeff now was it? thought it was a leftover offered to jeff.
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it was not written "for" jeff now was it? thought it was a leftover offered to jeff.
MK introduced that song in Knebworth 90 as a song he wrote for next Dire Straits record, that maybe will get on the record, maybe not...
Probably he decided not to put it in OES and I dont know how it ended in the Jeff Healy record, a story I never heard about...
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And... just coming back to the topic...
Maybe is that song "Your perfect song" that will be released as a digital download (with the full album) in Amazon Germany, the one that comes with the japanese high fidelity version?
Ustas mentioned that release will have 21 songs...
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Look at the special box from the remastered "SO" cd by Peter Gabriel, priced 61.87 pounds...
Just compare the content from this box and MK box...
http://petergabriel.com/so25/ (http://petergabriel.com/so25/)
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Good resource tributed to deluxe releases http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/
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I believe someone here mentioned it was from a previous tour, so imho it can only be GL-tour :disbelief
As if we get-a-lifers don't already have one or more :disbelief
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I believe someone here mentioned it was from a previous tour, so imho it can only be GL-tour :disbelief
As if we get-a-lifers don't already have one or more :disbelief
yes, I asked mk.com and they gave me the same answer
''we don't know exactly, it's from a previous tour'' ...
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Well, thats pretty obvious, unless they learnt how to let us download a complete concert from a next tour
:lol :lol :lol
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Haha Jbaent, but it can be done pretty easily:
already give code to the concerts they are going to play and we will patiently ??? wait till 2013 recordings are online :P
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The "Back to the future" thing was funnier ;D ;D ;D
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I believe someone here mentioned it was from a previous tour, so imho it can only be GL-tour :disbelief
As if we get-a-lifers don't already have one or more :disbelief
yes, I asked mk.com and they gave me the same answer
''we don't know exactly, it's from a previous tour'' ...
I wouldn't be very surprised if eventually the concert is something we already have like RLRR or On the night ... :disbelief
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And... just coming back to the topic...
Maybe is that song "Your perfect song" that will be released as a digital download (with the full album) in Amazon Germany, the one that comes with the japanese high fidelity version?
Ustas mentioned that release will have 21 songs...
The final track listing for Japan edition now includes the same 20 tracks. "21. Bonus track" is removed at all Japan online shops.
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Thanks Ustas.
Bad news for completists fans...
By the way, your avatar is gone!
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By the way, your avatar is gone!
I'm back 8)
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By the way, your avatar is gone!
I'm back 8)
YEAHHHH!!!
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As every 2008 shows were recorded but nothing came out (officially)...
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Look at the special box from the remastered "SO" cd by Peter Gabriel, priced 61.87 pounds...
Just compare the content from this box and MK box...
http://petergabriel.com/so25/ (http://petergabriel.com/so25/)
This is different class. In fact, I think I might go out and buy this one! ;)
The DVD is almost like releasing the famed Wembley '85 show on DVD. How fantastic would that be!
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As every 2008 shows were recorded but nothing came out (officially)...
2008 KTGC tour and the BIA tour are the 2 only ones with nothing officially released. For all other tours you have at least one song, or more, offically avalaible :
1978-79 : Live at the BBC, old grey whistle test from Alchemy bonus
1980-81 : tunnel of love from live at the BBC , Arena documentary and old grey whistle test from Alchemy bonus
1982-83 : Alchemy
1985-86 : :'(
1991-92 : On the night
1996 : a night in london, sultans of swing best of 2nd CD RAH gig
2001 : ragpicker's dream 2nd CD limited edition
2005 : simfy downloads
2006 : real live roadrunning
2008 : :'(
2010 : simfy downloads
2011 : Privateering Deluxe edition, and maybe box set ?
I think that's why a BIA gig, and mainly the wembley arena gig has become the holy grail for many fans....
(well, not for me... I'd prefer chorus78, early demos, communique demos, Mandela, a full 81 gig or the full 22/06/1983 Paris gig, or many others..... ;)
and If i had to choose in the BIA tour, I'd choose Syndney, or Cocaine with EC, or Uniondale..... ;))
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We have one from the very beguinning (A night in London) and other from his duet tour with Emmylou (Real Live Roadrunning)
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We have one from the very beguinning (A night in London) and other from his duet tour with Emmylou (Real Live Roadrunning)
those are NOT live shows from his solo career
No?
A live dvd from 1996, when he released Golden Heart, the first record of his solo career?
A live dvd from 2006, when he released his duet record with Emmylou Harris, as part of his solo career?
No, you are right, muts be dvds from the solo career of someone else....
:lol :lol :lol
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Because he was not touring in the first place, just playing some songs in a benefic event, and in the second place, because he wasn
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As every 2008 shows were recorded but nothing came out (officially)...
2008 KTGC tour and the BIA tour are the 2 only ones with nothing officially released. For all other tours you have at least one song, or more, offically avalaible :
1978-79 : Live at the BBC, old grey whistle test from Alchemy bonus
1980-81 : tunnel of love from live at the BBC , Arena documentary and old grey whistle test from Alchemy bonus
1982-83 : Alchemy
1985-86 : :'(
1991-92 : On the night
1996 : a night in london, sultans of swing best of 2nd CD RAH gig
2001 : ragpicker's dream 2nd CD limited edition
2005 : simfy downloads
2006 : real live roadrunning
2008 : :'(
2010 : simfy downloads
2011 : Privateering Deluxe edition, and maybe box set ?
I think that's why a BIA gig, and mainly the wembley arena gig has become the holy grail for many fans....
(well, not for me... I'd prefer chorus78, early demos, communique demos, Mandela, a full 81 gig or the full 22/06/1983 Paris gig, or many others..... ;)
and If i had to choose in the BIA tour, I'd choose Syndney, or Cocaine with EC, or Uniondale..... ;))
For BIA you have a little something: the live aid DVD, with a so-so MFN and quite a good Sultans ;)
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Ok, you win ::)
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Because he was not touring in the first place, just playing some songs in a benefic event, and in the second place, because he wasn
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So if its an opinion, its not a fact
;D ;D ;D
This conversation makes me think that to some people, the record/s and tour with Emmylou Harris is not considered as a part of MK solo career but as a contribution, when its really a MK album (just two songs by EH), MK musicians etc etc
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So if its an opinion, its not a fact
;D ;D ;D
This conversation makes me think that to some people, the record/s and tour with Emmylou Harris is not considered as a part of MK solo career but as a contribution, when its really a MK album (just two songs by EH), MK musicians etc etc
you are not going on much longer, are you
Not really :lol
All this was because we wanted a live dvd in the box, as in the Peter Gabriel
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amazon.de has changed today the release date for the limited deluxe edition (3CD) from 31st august to 7th september. ???
but all others editions remained unchanged ... and also no changes at other retailers for this edition.
very strange ... what is going on ?
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More strange things:
I just got a cnfirmation that the 3rd CD of the deluxe at bol.com in the Netherlands contains 7 songs!
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
mk.com says:
Disc 3 - Rehearsal Desk Mixes
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
So we have WII instead of WAM and Marbletown and So Far Away as an extra ???
And I f...ing ordered the deluxe at mk.com and the other versions at bol.com.
So I have to buy another one in the netherlands to have it all. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
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amazon.de has changed today the release date for the limited deluxe edition (3CD) from 31st august to 7th september. ???
but all others editions remained unchanged ... and also no changes at other retailers for this edition.
very strange ... what is going on ?
It's not the first time Amazon have made alterations regarding the release of versions of this album:
they told me my order for the super deluxe was cancelled
they were charging way over the odds for the deluxe 3cd version until recently when the price came down
now they say the release for the deluxe 3cd is delayed
Their handling of this release has been a total shambles.
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More strange things:
I just got a cnfirmation that the 3rd CD of the deluxe at bol.com in the Netherlands contains 7 songs!
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
mk.com says:
Disc 3 - Rehearsal Desk Mixes
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
So we have WII instead of WAM and Marbletown and So Far Away as an extra ???
And I f...ing ordered the deluxe at mk.com and the other versions at bol.com.
So I have to buy another one in the netherlands to have it all. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I have serious doubt that there will be 2 different versions of the Deluxe Edition, I guess one of the two is wrong...
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I will cancel anything "physical" and change to amazon download for 11 euros - the cheapest way (and most unpopular for MK/management) to get the songs plus one extra.... Who needs rehearsal room crap anyway when you could put a complete MK/Dylan
concert with about 75 minutes on one CD?
always the same bollocks with Super deluxe, SUPER CRAP
LE
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Record company staff are amateurs. Or very clever business people...
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More strange things:
I just got a cnfirmation that the 3rd CD of the deluxe at bol.com in the Netherlands contains 7 songs!
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
mk.com says:
Disc 3 - Rehearsal Desk Mixes
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
So we have WII instead of WAM and Marbletown and So Far Away as an extra ???
And I f...ing ordered the deluxe at mk.com and the other versions at bol.com.
So I have to buy another one in the netherlands to have it all. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I have serious doubt that there will be 2 different versions of the Deluxe Edition, I guess one of the two is wrong...
Geachte mevrouw Van de Maat,
U heeft contact opgenomen met onze klantenservice, omdat u meerdere vragen heeft over het album 'Privateering (Deluxe Edition)'.
Wij kunnen u mededelen dat het klopt dat de derde disc zeven tracks bevat. Ook de aangegeven prijs is juist. Waarom deze gegevens verschillen in andere landen van Nederland is bij ons helaas niet bekend.
Wij hopen u hiermee voldoende te hebben ge
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We heard a clip of WAM from iTunes though, didn't we?
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Yes, but that doesn't mean that the Netherlands could be a different release again, it's not only 2 tracks extra also changed WAM to WII :disbelief
They confirmed after I asked them. The general service couldn't answer me so they sent it to the headoffice ::)
I really don't get it.
Who of the dutchies ordered the deluxe at bol.com? I will wait ordering, maybe someone will be so nice to upload it for me somewhere ;)
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Yes, but that doesn't mean that the Netherlands could be a different release again, it's not only 2 tracks extra also changed WAM to WII :disbelief
They confirmed after I asked them. The general service couldn't answer me so they sent it to the headoffice ::)
I really don't get it.
Who of the dutchies ordered the deluxe at bol.com? I will wait ordering, maybe someone will be so nice to upload it for me somewhere ;)
Oh, I'm sure you'll find someone! ;)
There are just so many editions and regional variations, then we have the record companies trying to make the hard-core fans buy everything to get all the songs that it just gets too much.
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Hi Ingrid,
I have ordered 3 editions at Bol.com: Deluxe edition, Box deluxe edition and vinyl.
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For me there's a limit. I am really against illegal downloading, copying stuff and I really never do.
But I am not a millionaire, so I can't buy every single idiot release to have one or two songs extra.
I bought all version, except vinyl which is also in the box. I attend between 12 and 20 concerts during a tour.
I think my contribution to the profit of all kind of people involved with MK is big enough >:(
I rely on you Dennis :D
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No problem Ingrid ;)
I think I will also order the Deluxe edition at MK.com.
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No problem Ingrid ;)
I think I will also order the Deluxe edition at MK.com.
No need to, you will get the song from my deluxe from mk.com anyway. But I know you, you really want it all I'm afraid :D
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More strange things:
I just got a cnfirmation that the 3rd CD of the deluxe at bol.com in the Netherlands contains 7 songs!
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
mk.com says:
Disc 3 - Rehearsal Desk Mixes
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
So we have WII instead of WAM and Marbletown and So Far Away as an extra ???
And I f...ing ordered the deluxe at mk.com and the other versions at bol.com.
So I have to buy another one in the netherlands to have it all. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I ordered the delexu at bol.com so the files will come to you eventually.
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Seriously, did the Disney corporation buy PCM? ;D
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Don't know if it's PCM to blame, recordcompanies do strange things like this I guess.
Thanks Jeroen :D
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Hm, I reserved the Deluxe and the box today at my local shop... I'll wonder if that will contain 7 songs too.
WTF is going on :disbelief
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I suppose release in our little country will all be the same
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Looks like the fun is never gonna end!!!!!
Well, I
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I won't pre-order anything. >:(
On August 31st I will buy a copy of the best available version in my record store. Good enough and then I will decide if I should get the missing stuff.
I can't stand anymore all those marketing issues.
They should sell the same stuff all over the world.
What does it mean ? Do some people deserve a better package ? Just because they are in a different country ? :disbelief
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To be honest, it really annoys me too...
But I
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amazon.de has changed today the release date for the limited deluxe edition (3CD) from 31st august to 7th september. ???
but all others editions remained unchanged ... and also no changes at other retailers for this edition.
very strange ... what is going on ?
So, the 2cd and the box versions are still on August 31st in Germany?
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In Amazon Italy the price of the box has dropped from 56,63 euros to 53.80 euros...
Its not that much, but its less money anyway
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In Amazon Italy the price of the box has dropped from 56,63 euros to 53.80 euros...
Its not that much, but its less money anyway
You can be sure the French box will be the most expensive with the less stuff inside. :disbelief
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Ridiculous, really. And at the same time, record companies are still complaining when people just download that stuff for free ... They should blame themselves for that.
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I used to buy a lot when I was younger. I' m glad i did. just rediscovered great stuff like Randy Newman's cd.Today i could afford buying 10 times more but it's just like the music industry don't want you to buy. :disbelief
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Amazon.de gives this track information:
Disk: 1
1. Redbud Tree
2. Haul Away
3. Don't Forget Your Hat
4. Privateering
5. Miss You Blues
6. Corned Beef City
7. Go, Love
8. Hot Or What
9. Yon Two Crows
10. Seattle
11. Kingdom Of Gold
12. Got To Have Something
13. Radio City Serenade
14. I Used To Could
15. Gator Blood
16. Bluebird
17. Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
18. Blood And Water
19. Today Is Okay
20. After The Beanstalk
21. Why Aye Man
22. Cleaning My Gun
23. Corned Beef City (Live From Music Bank London/2011)
24. Sailing To Philadelphia
25. Hill Farmer's Blues
Disk: 2
1. Kingdom Of Gold
2. Got To Have Something
3. Radio City Serenade
4. I Used To Could
5. Gator Blood
6. Bluebird
7. Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
8. Blood And Water
9. Today Is Okay
10. After The Bean Stalk
Disk: 3
1. Why Aye Man
2. Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2
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I really wonder by people from www.bol.com insist so much in his 7 songs live rehearsals cd, with What it is, when all the rest of shops and official sources says its a 5 songs cds, with Why aye man...
Really really intrigued...
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Got the message today that it has been delayed to sept. 7th ???
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Got the message today that it has been delayed to sept. 7th ???
Go some pages back, Lord Voldemor ;D
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For me there's a limit. I am really against illegal downloading, copying stuff and I really never do.
But I am not a millionaire, so I can't buy every single idiot release to have one or two songs extra.
I bought all version, except vinyl which is also in the box. I attend between 12 and 20 concerts during a tour.
I think my contribution to the profit of all kind of people involved with MK is big enough >:(
I rely on you Dennis :D
Ingrid, just like you and other fans, I don't like all the confusion and different choises people need to make!....... It is rediculous! >:(
I ordered the 3CD's at the music shop and as soon as the owner calls me to collect it, I will let you and others know which songs are at the 3th CD!
As far as I understood it should be the 7 songs!
Fieneke
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Free Record Shop also says 7 track CD in the 3CD box.... http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-deluxe-edition-met-bonus-cd-mark-knopfler-0602537081189
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Free Record Shop also says 7 track CD in the 3CD box.... http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-deluxe-edition-met-bonus-cd-mark-knopfler-0602537081189
Plus another bonus track to confuse things further: So Far Away Away! :lol
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Free Record Shop also says 7 track CD in the 3CD box.... http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-deluxe-edition-met-bonus-cd-mark-knopfler-0602537081189
Plus another bonus track to confuse things further: So Far Away Away! :lol
That means that it was recorded away from the desk in the rehearsals room :o
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Looks like free record shop and bol.com copied that info from each other. By both the same stupid trackinfo.
What it is? (why the ?)
so far away away (1 away is enough ;))
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Looks like free record shop and bol.com copied that info from each other. By both the same stupid trackinfo.
What it is? (why the ?)
so far away away (1 away is enough ;))
Never its away enough!!!!
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Even funnier, look the information about the vynils in the box that gives the Fnac Spain
1 Redbud Tree (Vinilo)
2 Kingdom Of Gold (Vinilo)
3 Haul Away (Vinilo)
4 Got To Have Something (Vinilo)
5 Don't Forget Your Hat (Vinilo)
6 Radio City Serenade (Vinilo)
7 Privateering (Vinilo)
8 I Used To Could (Vinilo)
9 Miss You Blues (Vinilo)
10 Gator Blood (Vinilo)
11 Corned Beef City (Vinilo)
12 Go, Love (Vinilo)
13 Dream Of The Drowned Submariner (Vinilo)
14 Hot Or What (Vinilo)
15 Yon Two Crows (Vinilo)
16 Today Is Okay (Vinilo)
17 Seattle (Vinilo
Just 17 songs and in a very different order...
http://musica.fnac.es/a812003/Mark-Knopfler-Privateering-Edicion-Super-Deluxe-sin-especificar?PID=17505# (http://musica.fnac.es/a812003/Mark-Knopfler-Privateering-Edicion-Super-Deluxe-sin-especificar?PID=17505#)
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Free Record Shop also says 7 track CD in the 3CD box.... http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-deluxe-edition-met-bonus-cd-mark-knopfler-0602537081189
What the f*** is this mess ???!
If they dare to split the songs between countries I will have no remorse for piracy. We are not cows...
The spellings mistakes (the ? After what it is and the repeated "away" makes me think that these Dutch resellers don't know about what they are talking about, though...
Strange and tiring.
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What a mess :disbelief
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I think we'll just have to wait until it is released then it'll become clear. Right now it's as clear as mud.
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I think we'll just have to wait until it is released then it'll become clear. Right now it's as clear as mud.
Because of this I
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I'm afraid I will end buying both as well but I will wait till I have confirmation from one of the dutch fans.
Or maybe I will be strong and stick to the digital copy one of them will send me ;D
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Free Record Shop also says 7 track CD in the 3CD box.... http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-deluxe-edition-met-bonus-cd-mark-knopfler-0602537081189
Plus another bonus track to confuse things further: So Far Away Away! :lol
Naaah, this one was recorded in the Echo Studios... :lol Really, at this point I don't know what I'm going to buy. I'll buy "something with a reasonable number of discs insde". Let's see what's next. Can't believe the Dutch release is different from any other country. We're too small...
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They really confirmed it to me so I will claim if it isn't
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HMV Japan has their own version ;D ;D ;D
1 What It Is?
2 Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
3 Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
4 Sailing To Philadelphia
5 Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Mark-Knopfler_000000000015654/item_Privateering-Ltd-Dled_5120120
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Same as Netherland minus number 6 and 7 :disbelief
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But Itunes preview had Why Aye Man...
??? ??? ???
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Bol.com is often wrong with songs and tracklists. For example take a look at the LP from the Foo Fighters wasting light. http://www.bol.com/nl/p/wasting-light/1000004011203465/ (http://www.bol.com/nl/p/wasting-light/1000004011203465/)
The last 5 tracks are only on the second LP and of course not on the first.
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This turn out to be totally ridiculous. WE NEED AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT!!!
(sorry for shouting).
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In fact, we have. Look at MK.com. All formats are listed there officially. If you search on and on and find different and obviously not so accurate offers every second day, well, why asking for an official statement then?
LE
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This is their official statement when I asked about it. I am going to write the same question to freerecordshop as well. See what the answer is. For some reason I think they are right, you can make mistakes, but when someone point it out, ask for a clear answer and direct them to the official site mk.com, which I did, you must be pretty stupid to answer that you are right without investigating it. Keep in mind that our price is also way higher than on other places
More strange things:
I just got a cnfirmation that the 3rd CD of the deluxe at bol.com in the Netherlands contains 7 songs!
Disk 3
1. What It Is?
2. Cleaning My Gun
3. Corned Beef City
4. Sailing To Philadelphia
5. Hill Farmer's Blues
6. Marbletown
7. So Far Away Away
mk.com says:
Disc 3 - Rehearsal Desk Mixes
Why Aye Man
Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
So we have WII instead of WAM and Marbletown and So Far Away as an extra ???
And I f...ing ordered the deluxe at mk.com and the other versions at bol.com.
So I have to buy another one in the netherlands to have it all. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
I have serious doubt that there will be 2 different versions of the Deluxe Edition, I guess one of the two is wrong...
Geachte mevrouw Van de Maat,
U heeft contact opgenomen met onze klantenservice, omdat u meerdere vragen heeft over het album 'Privateering (Deluxe Edition)'.
Wij kunnen u mededelen dat het klopt dat de derde disc zeven tracks bevat. Ook de aangegeven prijs is juist. Waarom deze gegevens verschillen in andere landen van Nederland is bij ons helaas niet bekend.
Wij hopen u hiermee voldoende te hebben ge
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Backcover
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Regarding the printed ad by UM sale sheet deluxe has 7 live tracks (with double Away, new song? ;D ):
(http://www.visual-looks.com/wp-content/uploads/UniversalMusic_Salessheet_MarkKnopfler_Privateering.jpg)
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COOL!!!!!
I like it!
Cheers. BBB
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I like it too! 8)
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How comes the standard cd only shows 18 songs?
Cheers. BBB
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In fact, we have. Look at MK.com. All formats are listed there officially. If you search on and on and find different and obviously not so accurate offers every second day, well, why asking for an official statement then?
LE
Because USTAS just posted another official tracklist in total contradiction with what MK.com is listing... ;)
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Both number 10's are missing.
BUT ... the 3rd CD is the same as in Holland.
But Holland standard also has 2 x 10 songs, like the deluxe has 2 x 10 songs + 7!
At the description of the box: sentence is not finished so it seems the last sentence of each block is missing in this print
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How comes the standard cd only shows 18 songs?
Cheers. BBB
I think it's a provisional document. This ad includes a lot of mystakes like 18 songs, 2CD+Live CD and CD of 3 extrs-tracks at once etc.
In fact, we have. Look at MK.com. All formats are listed there officially. If you search on and on and find different and obviously not so accurate offers every second day, well, why asking for an official statement then?
LE
Because USTAS just posted another official tracklist in total contradiction with what MK.com is listing... ;)
No-no-no! ;D
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Would love to have a 2011 soundboard version of WII though - I don't know what you guys think, but to me that's the only song for which I noticed a significant improvement over the GL concerts - and i own 10 of them with all the released songs, and I don't care much for Corned Beef City, so WII would be the only interesting item here - faster pace, more energetic guitar for a song that is tough to get right live... What do you think ?
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I think you are right. But also Cleaning My Gun has changed in a positive way. Mike McGoldrick strummed the Cittern and the organ part was different, especially at the end, too. I liked that version from 2011 very much compared with the few times they played it in 2010. You are right about WII, really phantastic version (f.e. Glasgow 2011), it seems this is the first time they really nailed it.
LE
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I'm not a big fan of CMG anyway :)
As for WII, yes, in 2001 it was ok with a good intro but a not so great accordeon, in 2005 it was rocky but lacked violin, and in 2008/2010 it was too slow an had this atrocious flute in the main section (but a very nice break); in 2011 the enjoying flute is still there but the pace at least is better. It still think that the best version is on the STP album ;)
As for WAM the best version is by far the 2002 one on the TRD bonus disc - fast pace, great guitar, crazy vocals. Have always been disappointed with more recent versions.
STP, Marbletown and HFB were very good on the GL tour, I doubt that 2011 versions are better. Same for SFA. Probably the same too for SAN and BiA (which are not offered anyway)
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Amazon.de gives this track information:
Disk: 1
1. Redbud Tree
2. Haul Away
3. Don't Forget Your Hat
4. Privateering
5. Miss You Blues
6. Corned Beef City
7. Go, Love
8. Hot Or What
9. Yon Two Crows
10. Seattle
11. Kingdom Of Gold
12. Got To Have Something
13. Radio City Serenade
14. I Used To Could
15. Gator Blood
16. Bluebird
17. Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
18. Blood And Water
19. Today Is Okay
20. After The Beanstalk
21. Why Aye Man
22. Cleaning My Gun
23. Corned Beef City (Live From Music Bank London/2011)
24. Sailing To Philadelphia
25. Hill Farmer's Blues
Disk: 2
1. Kingdom Of Gold
2. Got To Have Something
3. Radio City Serenade
4. I Used To Could
5. Gator Blood
6. Bluebird
7. Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
8. Blood And Water
9. Today Is Okay
10. After The Bean Stalk
Disk: 3
1. Why Aye Man
2. Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2
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Where did you get this backcover?
Backcover
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Regarding the printed ad by UM sale sheet deluxe has 7 live tracks (with double Away, new song? ;D ):
(http://www.visual-looks.com/wp-content/uploads/UniversalMusic_Salessheet_MarkKnopfler_Privateering.jpg)
Cool to see the purchase price for the shops. 52 euro for the super deluxe box, 21 euro for the deluxe and 13.50 euro for the 2cd version.
PPD: Published price to dealer
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So...
Dutch standard release has 19 songs... but the 3cd deluxe version has 7 songs, two more than the rest of the world editions, and the first one is different...
And the box include the live cd as well...
Cool.
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So...
Dutch standard release has 19 songs... but the 3cd deluxe version has 7 songs, two more than the rest of the world editions, and the first one is different...
Cool.
If this is true this is a disgrace. Middle ages practices. This is a global artist, so we need one global and complete release, period. They can't even spell the song titles properly ?? Nonsense !
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Notice that the box includes the live cd...
If its not a mistake will means that dutch box includes everything!
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When I buy the album I want all fucking songs, not 19... What is this? :-X :-X :-X
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When I buy the album I want all fucking songs, not 19... What is this? :-X :-X :-X
Wrong, its WHAT IT IS?
;D ;D
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This is so confusing. It's like double Dutch! :lol
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Both number 10's are missing.
BUT ... the 3rd CD is the same as in Holland.
But Holland standard also has 2 x 10 songs, like the deluxe has 2 x 10 songs + 7!
At the description of the box: sentence is not finished so it seems the last sentence of each block is missing in this print
Last sentence at box is missing too:
Creditcard with exclusive card for customer to ...........
So I think it's a bad print or bad copy or whatever.
I asked bol.com about that too and then they changed their site (removed the live-CD from the description)
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
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AAAAAARGH ;D
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
they must have been inspired by A Night in London DVD
2 songs less than the VHS
Excepted if you were an early buyer of the mexican release
(by the way I miss that one ;) )
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
they must have been inspired by A Night in London DVD
2 songs less than the VHS
Excepted if you were an early buyer of the mexican release
(by the way I miss that one ;) )
Actually SoS is not that great, better watch Alchemy (the piano break is much better on the bonus disc from the compilation IHMO) and MFN is much better on the Montserrat DVD.
So no big loss I think.
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This is so damm funny that its a pitty that in some days we will have it released and solved
;D ;D ;D
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I know!
Because the 2013 tour starts in Amsterdam you can buy the cd now and when the tour is done you may download the rest of the songs.
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I know!
Because the 2013 tour starts in Amsterdam you can buy the cd now and when the tour is done you may download the rest of the songs.
I
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
they must have been inspired by A Night in London DVD
2 songs less than the VHS
Excepted if you were an early buyer of the mexican release
(by the way I miss that one ;) )
Actually SoS is not that great, better watch Alchemy (the piano break is much better on the bonus disc from the compilation IHMO) and MFN is much better on the Montserrat DVD.
So no big loss I think.
Still 30 years after Alchemy there's no other version of SoS on DVD, incredible at best
I also like the live aid one, less energetic but more emotional with sax... Both are gems and better than ANIL I think.
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I know!
Because the 2013 tour starts in Amsterdam you can buy the cd now and when the tour is done you may download the rest of the songs.
I
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I know!
Because the 2013 tour starts in Amsterdam you can buy the cd now and when the tour is done you may download the rest of the songs.
I
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
they must have been inspired by A Night in London DVD
2 songs less than the VHS
Excepted if you were an early buyer of the mexican release
(by the way I miss that one ;) )
Actually SoS is not that great, better watch Alchemy (the piano break is much better on the bonus disc from the compilation IHMO) and MFN is much better on the Montserrat DVD.
So no big loss I think.
Still 30 years after Alchemy there's no other version of SoS on DVD, incredible at best
I also like the live aid one, less energetic but more emotional with sax... Both are gems and better than ANIL I think.
Yes but you know this is part of my little "collector side" although I try to keep it in some limit.
This is not really to listen but to have in my collection.
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
they must have been inspired by A Night in London DVD
2 songs less than the VHS
Excepted if you were an early buyer of the mexican release
(by the way I miss that one ;) )
Actually SoS is not that great, better watch Alchemy (the piano break is much better on the bonus disc from the compilation IHMO) and MFN is much better on the Montserrat DVD.
So no big loss I think.
Still 30 years after Alchemy there's no other version of SoS on DVD, incredible at best
I also like the live aid one, less energetic but more emotional with sax... Both are gems and better than ANIL I think.
Yes but you know this is part of my little "collector side" although I try to keep it in some limit.
This is not really to listen but to have in my collection.
I fully understand you :) we have very good video releases but we lack some. I would die for a Dortmund 80/Wembley 85/Sydney 86 blu-ray :)
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I don't want to add any confusion but it looks like the dutch version has 18 tracks not 19 ::)
they must have been inspired by A Night in London DVD
2 songs less than the VHS
Excepted if you were an early buyer of the mexican release
(by the way I miss that one ;) )
Actually SoS is not that great, better watch Alchemy (the piano break is much better on the bonus disc from the compilation IHMO) and MFN is much better on the Montserrat DVD.
So no big loss I think.
Still 30 years after Alchemy there's no other version of SoS on DVD, incredible at best
I also like the live aid one, less energetic but more emotional with sax... Both are gems and better than ANIL I think.
Yes but you know this is part of my little "collector side" although I try to keep it in some limit.
This is not really to listen but to have in my collection.
I fully understand you :) we have very good video releases but we lack some. I would die for a Dortmund 80/Wembley 85/Sydney 86 blu-ray :)
You can add both Paris and Werchter from 81, Snape 90, Madrid 2001, Montreux 2010...
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Just for your information:
amazon.de changed the release date for the Deluxe Edition again (after yesterday's Sept 7th) now again
on Sept 4th. All other editions are still on August 31. Thrilling!!
I was asking at my local Media Markt today and the (nice) lady told me that they indeed will get the CDs very close to release date Friday next week. One little chance might be to turn up Thursday evening shortly before closing time and ask about the album. I told her that we will see again next week on Thursday evening! :D
LE
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Well done, LE!!!!
;D
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About "SO" deluxe edition mentioned before as a good example, compared to the MK release,
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/
keep on reading at that page, and you will see the reactions! Stunning, with all these extras and they are still not happy! What should we say? Make an official complain straight to the artist like they are prepared to do after the open letter?
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I bought The Wall Immersion box as a present for my son. Pretty expensive, but 7 discs full of stuff, nice books and artwork plus some collectible goodies, marbles of all things ! Which I think is a reference to the lyric "must've taken my marbles away..."
It's nice, if ur gonna do a box, they should be chock full of stuff.
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Got the wall, WYWH and DSOTM boxes, love em to bits....
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Got the wall, WYWH and DSOTM boxes, love em to bits....
I sooooo badly want those box sets too. They look so delicious!!!
Maybe when I win the lotto! ;)
Cheers. BBB
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Just for your information:
amazon.de changed the release date for the Deluxe Edition again (after yesterday's Sept 7th) now again
on Sept 4th. All other editions are still on August 31. Thrilling!!
I was asking at my local Media Markt today and the (nice) lady told me that they indeed will get the CDs very close to release date Friday next week. One little chance might be to turn up Thursday evening shortly before closing time and ask about the album. I told her that we will see again next week on Thursday evening! :D
LE
Amazon.de changed it today AGAIN...release date is "now" Sept. 3rd... :disbelief
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About "SO" deluxe edition mentioned before as a good example, compared to the MK release,
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/
keep on reading at that page, and you will see the reactions! Stunning, with all these extras and they are still not happy! What should we say? Make an official complain straight to the artist like they are prepared to do after the open letter?
I suppose the real hard-core fans can never be truly satisfied! Putting my non MK hat on for a moment, I still think that we have never had even a decent box set/deluxe edition though.
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About "SO" deluxe edition mentioned before as a good example, compared to the MK release,
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/
keep on reading at that page, and you will see the reactions! Stunning, with all these extras and they are still not happy! What should we say? Make an official complain straight to the artist like they are prepared to do after the open letter?
I suppose the real hard-core fans can never be truly satisfied! Putting my non MK hat on for a moment, I still think that we have never had even a decent box set/deluxe edition though.
I liked the deluxe edition of Private Investigations (2005) Nice hardcover and booklet.
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Just for your information:
amazon.de changed the release date for the Deluxe Edition again (after yesterday's Sept 7th) now again
on Sept 4th. All other editions are still on August 31. Thrilling!!
I was asking at my local Media Markt today and the (nice) lady told me that they indeed will get the CDs very close to release date Friday next week. One little chance might be to turn up Thursday evening shortly before closing time and ask about the album. I told her that we will see again next week on Thursday evening! :D
LE
Amazon.de changed it today AGAIN...release date is "now" Sept. 3rd... :disbelief
NO, they changed it once again today ... I received an email for my order with a changed release date Sept. 5th ... though you will see still Sep. 3rd if you search for this item ??? ... no further comment about this silly behaviour
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I got an answer from Univers regarding tracklists!
Dutch: Er zijn 3 versies, voor alle landen hetzelfde. De tracklist is een aantal keren gewijzigd, vandaar dat Bol nog een oudere versie heeft staan.
There are 3 versions, the same for all countries. The tracklist has been amended a number of times, hence Bol still have an older version listed!
So that's all for the tracklist, the one one MK.com is the right one and for all the countries the same.
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I got an answer from Univers regarding tracklists!
Dutch: Er zijn 3 versies, voor alle landen hetzelfde. De tracklist is een aantal keren gewijzigd, vandaar dat Bol nog een oudere versie heeft staan.
There are 3 versions, the same for all countries. The tracklist has been amended a number of times, hence Bol still have an older version listed!
So that's all for the tracklist, the one one MK.com is the right one and for all the countries the same.
You just made my day Jeroen!
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And now we know we are missing out on some tracks too! :( We want them all!
We want more! We want more! We... ;D
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And now we know we are missing out on some tracks too! :( We want them all!
We want more! We want more! We... ;D
We have known that since 1993 -.-
Hrrm.... 1984 ;)
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I got an answer from Univers regarding tracklists!
Dutch: Er zijn 3 versies, voor alle landen hetzelfde. De tracklist is een aantal keren gewijzigd, vandaar dat Bol nog een oudere versie heeft staan.
There are 3 versions, the same for all countries. The tracklist has been amended a number of times, hence Bol still have an older version listed!
So that's all for the tracklist, the one one MK.com is the right one and for all the countries the same.
You just made my day Jeroen!
No, that means there are 5 live songs instead of 7. That don't make my day Lars. It sucks a bit ;)
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And now we know we are missing out on some tracks too! :( We want them all!
We want more! We want more! We... ;D
Does somebody have a clue as to how these stupid decisions (fill 1/3 of a cd when you could fill it with live songs) are made ??
In 1984 at least space on vinyl was an excuse. Not in 93, unless releasing a double cd is more difficult than releasing one ??
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I got an answer from Univers regarding tracklists!
Dutch: Er zijn 3 versies, voor alle landen hetzelfde. De tracklist is een aantal keren gewijzigd, vandaar dat Bol nog een oudere versie heeft staan.
There are 3 versions, the same for all countries. The tracklist has been amended a number of times, hence Bol still have an older version listed!
So that's all for the tracklist, the one one MK.com is the right one and for all the countries the same.
You just made my day Jeroen!
No, that means there are 5 live songs instead of 7. That don't make my day Lars. It sucks a bit ;)
Well the first case was that we didn't get the full album either.. So I am quite happy!
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Someone must have had at least some bad conscience since they released Encores :)
For which other reason do you follow up a live album with a live EP? :D
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I got an answer from Univers regarding tracklists!
Dutch: Er zijn 3 versies, voor alle landen hetzelfde. De tracklist is een aantal keren gewijzigd, vandaar dat Bol nog een oudere versie heeft staan.
There are 3 versions, the same for all countries. The tracklist has been amended a number of times, hence Bol still have an older version listed!
So that's all for the tracklist, the one one MK.com is the right one and for all the countries the same.
You just made my day Jeroen!
No, that means there are 5 live songs instead of 7. That don't make my day Lars. It sucks a bit ;)
Well the first case was that we didn't get the full album either.. So I am quite happy!
??? ??? You mean that strange Universal advert with 9 songs per disc? That was obvious a mistake. I think :P
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And now we know we are missing out on some tracks too! :( We want them all!
We want more! We want more! We... ;D
Does somebody have a clue as to how these stupid decisions (fill 1/3 of a cd when you could fill it with live songs) are made ??
In 1984 at least space on vinyl was an excuse. Not in 93, unless releasing a double cd is more difficult than releasing one ??
At the time it has to be a single album release (don't know why) but Phonogram did produce a special edition in a 2cd case to put the cd single in. And a "special" special edition did have the cardboard single shrinkwrapped with the CD case...
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Then I will send my deluxe from bol.com back. I have their confirmation that it was 7 songs :disbelief
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Not only that, it's way overpriced then as well. 29,99 euros for 5 extra songs!
2 CD is 17,99, so 12 euro for 5 songs :disbelief
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Not only that, it's way overpriced then as well. 29,99 euros for 5 extra songs!
2 CD is 17,99, so 12 euro for 5 songs :disbelief
Yes, but the deluxe is everywhere in Netherlands 29,99? Right? And the box 74,99..
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I paid 79,99 for the box, but my confirmation says it will be 69,99, so I have some fights to go with bol.com:
- sending deluxe back, maybe I will please them and cancel it before
'- make them pay 10 euro's back
:P
@ dutchessy: yes price is the same everywere in the Netherlands, but abroad it's way cheaper.
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Amazon changed it again: Now the Super Deluxe Edition is not at pre-order modus anymore. You can leave your e-mail now and will get message when the item is available...
:disbelief
LE
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Mark's album is not the only with bonustracks all over the internet. Check out this album from Alanis Morissette:
1. "Guardian"
2. "Woman Down"
3. "'Til You"
4. "Celebrity"
5. "Empathy"
6. "Lens"
7. "Spiral"
8. "Numb"
9. "Havoc"
10. "Win and Win"
11. "Receive"
12. "Edge of Evolution"
Total length:
52:38
Deluxe Edition Bonus Track
13. "Will You Be My Girlfriend?"
14. "Magical Child"
15. "No (Japanese Bonus Track)"
16. "Big Sur (Target Bonus Track)"
17. "Guru (Target Bonus Track)"
18. "Permission (Target Bonus Track)"
19. "Jekyll and Hyde (feat. Souleye)"
20. "Tantra (US Bonus Track)"
So 12 numbers on the normal cd, 14 on iTunes, then one extra in Japan, 3 extra at Target(?) an finally one US bonus track! So that's four times buying the same numbers to have them all!
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Hey, Bob has been doing it for quite some time! And imagine that the first editions plus the vinyl edition become collectibles once they are deleted, so the company has raised the original price, calculating that the fans will buy anything at all. (And of course there are some vultures that have money and buy many copies to sell them latter on. )That is why a famous but not so commercial artist has so many editions. Alanis used to be commercial but not lately, so she too, is mining her fan base.
Of course there are other types of record companies, like Constellation records. They are a small Canadian label, that has released several fantastic records, like Godspeed you black emperor, A Silver MT Zion, etc. They never let their records become deleted and out of print, so the object that is the CD or vinyl, has a standard price and can be obtained at all times from the label. They don't put out expanded limited deluxe numbered editions, because they respect their fans and since all their releases are extremely good from a designer's point of view, it is a pleasure to have both the medium and the music, so people usually buy and do not download. Especially when they know the effort of that company and try to support it.
I know that most people here have different musical directions, but some of you will probably be mesmerized by some of these groups. I know I am. I have seen Godspeed live and they were thrilling! Three guitarists, two drummers and various string instruments!
Maybe Mark should consider releasing them on his own label and use the company (Universal isn't it?) to distribute the ready record. It is tough business, but others less successful have done it.
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Happy as I am: Just found a couple of vouchers which I can hand in at FRS so next Friday I'll get a 2CD version copy. No deluxe, no superdeluxe, no superdeduperdewhateverdeluxe, just the 2CD will do. Rest of the songs I'll buy online. ;)
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FINALLY, we got some news from (from the Fletcher-forum) about the content of the Super Deluxe Edition:
Question: Hello Guy What is the concert that will be downloadable in the super deluxe edition of Privateering Many thanks
Guy answered: It is an entire show from the latter stages of the Get Lucky tour
Which is another reason for me not to buy the Super Deluxe because from the 26 Simfy shows I own most of them are from the latter stage... Which was really great.
So, only the three bonus songs are interesting, which makes it easier for me to say Goodbye to the Super Deluxe Edition... ;)
LE
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FINALLY, we got some news from (from the Fletcher-forum) about the content of the Super Deluxe Edition:
Question: Hello Guy What is the concert that will be downloadable in the super deluxe edition of Privateering Many thanks
Guy answered: It is an entire show from the latter stages of the Get Lucky tour
Which is another reason for me not to buy the Super Deluxe because from the 26 Simfy shows I own most of them are from the latter stage... Which was really great.
So, only the three bonus songs are interesting, which makes it easier for me to say Goodbye to the Super Deluxe Edition... ;)
LE
Thanks LE for the (actually disappointing) news ! I concurr, owning 10 Simfy show myself among the very best (Paris, London, N
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Good question(s), my take:
1) CREDIT CARD WITH EXCLUSIVE CODE FOR CUSTOMER TO DOWNLOAD A FULL CONCERT is from the official MKNews info, and I tend to think that "video" would be a feature that would not desere a low profile information politics - so it is a pure audio download probably. Wouldn't they have told us otherwise?
2) again, as nothing is said about the 5 rehearsal tracks as a possible Super Deluxe content, I would think they are not in it (which is ridiculous enough).
3) Apart from the "Life In Songs" Documentary, I could imagine that the 12 minutes EPK (that we already know) might be on it at the most. Anything else would be a big surprise and would have been announced, too.
So the big question is: WHAT art print do we get?? :-X
LE
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Guy:
Privateering
bouyer olivier
France
26th August 2012
Hello Guy What is the concert that will be downloadable in the super deluxe edition of Privateering Many thanks
It is an entire show from the latter stages of the Get Lucky tour
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Good question(s), my take:
1) CREDIT CARD WITH EXCLUSIVE CODE FOR CUSTOMER TO DOWNLOAD A FULL CONCERT is from the official MKNews info, and I tend to think that "video" would be a feature that would not desere a low profile information politics - so it is a pure audio download probably. Wouldn't they have told us otherwise?
2) again, as nothing is said about the 5 rehearsal tracks as a possible Super Deluxe content, I would think they are not in it (which is ridiculous enough).
3) Apart from the "Life In Songs" Documentary, I could imagine that the 12 minutes EPK (that we already know) might be on it at the most. Anything else would be a big surprise and would have been announced, too.
So the big question is: WHAT art print do we get?? :-X
LE
Thanks LE, your answers make sense.
I am puzzled that we have to go fishing to know the exact content of a 80
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After going "ballistic" over this whole affair during the last week, when I decided to choose the cheapest type (which would be the amazon.de download for 11
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The Deluxe edition looks (and always has looked) like terrific value. Double CD and live extra.
I once considered the SD edition, but that's a lot of extra $$
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The Deluxe edition looks (and always has looked) like terrific value. Double CD and live extra.
I once considered the SD edition, but that's a lot of extra $$
It has actually, when you think about it. Especially for us when you consider we have all seen the DVD and probably have the concert too (or a similar download). For only that little bit extra over the standard version it's well worth it, you're right!
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I am hoping for a nice booklet however, hopefully with some liner notes (as in Get Lucky). There are very much and long lyrics which will require an extensive booklet for sure. Mark has always a nice and illuminative way to tell us a little bit about the recordings.
LE
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It's very disappointing
Most of MK fans already have some GL tour shows via simfy...
In the end the super deluxe edition is super crap edition !
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It's very disappointing
Most of MK fans already have some GL tour shows via simfy...
In the end the super deluxe edition is super crap edition !
Exactly. They make a super deluxe edition presumeably for the real fans and yet these are the same people that they also made the live downloads available for in 2010! So what market exactly are they aiming for with this SD box?
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I have been told many times that the simfy recordings were great, but I am and was in a terrible financial state to even consider buying concerts as flacs, mp3s or memory sticks. I wouldn't have the time to listen to them, carefully to enjoy them and spot the differences, anyway.
I don't know if the project sold well enough, but if they discontinued it chances are that they did because it was not profitable. So not that many people own the recordings. It would be a nice addition (and considered official release-like the simfys but not exactly) for most of the fans, even to the ones already having Simfys. I guess that they will release one not available through the Simfys. I always prefer the physical edition, so a bit disappointed that there is not a CD included.(really why not? lots of extra space in the box, look at the Pink Floyd boxes, they contain so much more and they are more compact-OK they don't have vinyl editions but still...)
Maybe we should consider writing an open letter to the MK management or the company, about this fiasco.
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but do not forgot:
pink floyd is NOT releasing every 2 years a new album, is not touring every 2 years, the release NOTHING new ... i think the fans of MK can be just satisfied with what they get since over 30 years ;-) i think he is the most hard working artist out there - or did you forget that he played a complete tour with pain on his back, when others would say, bye bye, i retire awhile ...
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you should read exactly what i say
i think MK and his management has enough work to release new songs and tours than to produce deluxe editions ...
and in times when pink floyd was on tour, i never saw deluxe editions, this all has time when MK will retire complete in my opinion
a double album with a tour is not so bad, isn
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you should read exactly what i say
i think MK and his management has enough work to release new songs and tours than to produce deluxe editions ...
and in times when pink floyd was on tour, i never saw deluxe editions, this all is time when MK will retire complete in my opinion
a double album with a tour is not so bad, isn
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you should read exactly what i say
i think MK and his management has enough work to release new songs and tours than to produce deluxe editions ...
and in times when pink floyd was on tour, i never saw deluxe editions, this all is time when MK will retire complete in my opinion
a double album with a tour is not so bad, isn
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you should read exactly what i say
i think MK and his management has enough work to release new songs and tours than to produce deluxe editions ...
and in times when pink floyd was on tour, i never saw deluxe editions, this all is time when MK will retire complete in my opinion
a double album with a tour is not so bad, isn
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Please give me pm when you decide to get on-topic again... ;D
LE
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sorry, once again - i prefer the concentration on new songs and tours, and i think MK and management does too.
it
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sorry, once again - i prefer the concentration on new songs and tours, and i think MK and management does too.
it
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This deluxe editions thing is relatively new. It counts 10 years or so. Before that if there was something out there, it was made for the die hard fans, it had substance and not air in the size of big boxes and it was not that expensive. And that were the real collectibles. They didn't mention Super, Deluxe and special like the menus of fast food restaurants. It is a real shame, lost opportunities this editions.
But maybe this new MK album can have a 1977 Pink Floyd concert. That, now, I would certainly vote for! ;D
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This deluxe editions thing is relatively new. It counts 10 years or so. Before that if there was something out there, it was made for the die hard fans, it had substance and not air in the size of big boxes and it was not that expensive. And that were the real collectibles. They didn't mention Super, Deluxe and special like the menus of fast food restaurants. It is a real shame, lost opportunities this editions.
But maybe this new MK album can have a 1977 Pink Floyd concert. That, now, I would certainly vote for! ;D
100% agree with what you say about delux buxes. Shameful business.
Re a 1977 Pink Floyd concert in a MK album.... the probabibilty is 0 :) I like both but I don't see why there should be a link in products... it is already so difficult to get MK live material with a MK album !
But yes, a 1977 live from PF is the holy grail - just like a 1985 live from DS...
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Herlock, now that EMI is sold to Universal (and Sony!) everything is possible. I guess it is only a matter of time to have just one music company (not including the small indie ones) and they will do anything at all to achieve sales and make the numbers come true. Even this mixed artists stunt. I have seen it in cheaper editions - Paul Young and Paul Simon together. The common, obviously been the first name.
But Gilmour has released at least 3 live recordings both in DVD, CD, vinyl, deluxe and had time for the past releases. And we have the live Wall recording too. And a zillion of bootlegs. I can't wish for all these to be officially released. I won't have time to listen to them , let alone money to buy them. Same goes for DS/MK. Alchemy was a rip off too. Nothing new, picture just a bit better. On the night was really cut to just enough to fit on a single CD (plus Encores) and the On the BBC was just thrown quickly to end the contract.
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Herlock, now that EMI is sold to Universal (and Sony!) everything is possible. I guess it is only a matter of time to have just one music company (not including the small indie ones) and they will do anything at all to achieve sales and make the numbers come true. Even this mixed artists stunt. I have seen it in cheaper editions - Paul Young and Paul Simon together. The common, obviously been the first name.
But Gilmour has released at least 3 live recordings both in DVD, CD, vinyl, deluxe and had time for the past releases. And we have the live Wall recording too. And a zillion of bootlegs. I can't wish for all these to be officially released. I won't have time to listen to them , let alone money to buy them. Same goes for DS/MK. Alchemy was a rip off too. Nothing new, picture just a bit better. On the night was really cut to just enough to fit on a single CD (plus Encores) and the On the BBC was just thrown quickly to end the contract.
May I respectfully disagree that "Alchemy was a rip-off". The sound was restored to pristine quality by Chuck Ainlay and this is worth the relase alone. The picture is what it is, but you can't do miracles with a 16mm image in the dark that was of low quality even in 1983; and the bonuses were very valuable: the wonderful BBC arena documentary with nice live tracks (DTTW and WDYTYRG especially); the 1978 Sos and the terrific 1980 TOL in superb quality. I really loved it !
OTN is another story, can't think of why they did not put SOS/TOL/TR/TWL in it; certainly the Alchemy versions are fantastic, but the OTN versions brought another perspective to them. I would have been glad to have both versions...
As for live at the BBC, well, yes, it was just trown to end the contract. It is quite nice though. Too bad they did not choose Rockpalast instead (better sound and more songs from Communiqu
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So, the content of the box:
Standard 2cd: CRAP, having the chance to include the 3cd version, put the standard is rest value to it
2 Vinyls: CRAP (for me), I dont have turntable, and I consider that its something that if you want th vinyls its because you have one, so you will buy that version, totally without any value for me
Bonus cd with 3 extra songs: well, at least something with any real value
DVD: Almost CRAP, "A life in songs" documentary its fine, but as its been broadcasted by the BBC so often, and almost everyone with internet connection had downloaded and watched it, just a minimum value because they are offering it officially
Artprint: I dont know what it is, but looks like an something aditional, that if its there, ok, if not, who cares?
Code to download a concert: CRAP, they have everything recorded from 2005 to 2011, and they decided to put a concert that has been offered paying and that the fans that will buy the box, probably already have...
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OK Herlock, I can give you half of Alchemy point. But you have to remember that the big bucks we've paid were not for "sound only". It was mainly for the picture. Why issue something in Blu-RAY that would enhance the already problematic picture. (which by the way I loved in VHS). And about the sound, I have bought it in cassette, then vinyl, then CD then remastered CD and lastly I had to pay the extra money for the DVD-CD compo. And yesterday I found the best version of all, a Quiex II vinyl pressing!
Yes I know the argument is weak, and can't be demolished with a simple:"then, don't buy" but since you are a fan too, you can understand my problem.
And I even have a better one: The thing that made the Alchemy so much better had little to do with the source, and more to do with the age. Less to do with desire to have and listen from a better source and more to do with the music itself.
jbaent, don't forget the extra 3 songs that only the elite will be having. Or not? ;D I guess that it is only a monumental box-way to prove to others how big a fan you are. And then we all go out and buy it, no matter what, because if we don't and it runs out we will be more sorry. The company managers have placed a bet, which one will go first and which one will outlast the others: hope, patience or money? Guess which one is the winner... What we wish and what we get. (there is a nice saying that comes to my mind "put wishes on one hand and shit on the other and see which pile up faster)
That said, really, isn't there a way to pass all these sentiments to the management or MK himself?
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MK himself told in an interview to all this deluxes etc etc are crap...
He says it has nothing to do with him, but with the record company.
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So, the content of the box:
Standard 2cd: CRAP, having the chance to include the 3cd version, put the standard is rest value to it
2 Vinyls: CRAP (for me), I dont have turntable, and I consider that its something that if you want th vinyls its because you have one, so you will buy that version, totally without any value for me
Bonus cd with 3 extra songs: well, at least something with any real value
DVD: Almost CRAP, "A life in songs" documentary its fine, but as its been broadcasted by the BBC so often, and almost everyone with internet connection had downloaded and watched it, just a minimum value because they are offering it officially
Artprint: I dont know what it is, but looks like an something aditional, that if its there, ok, if not, who cares?
Code to download a concert: CRAP, they have everything recorded from 2005 to 2011, and they decided to put a concert that has been offered paying and that the fans that will buy the box, probably already have...
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MK himself told in an interview to all this deluxes etc etc are crap...
He says it has nothing to do with him, but with the record company.
Yes I know about that, but maybe he should put his foot down about this.
How about an official letter to the company? Of course as I have already said, their easy answer would be "don't buy".And that is exactly why they don't have to ask the fans. They have paid enormous amounts of money for statistical research, psychological charts etc, to understand how a fan feels and behaves. Any thoughts about how to fight this, or if it worths fighting about?
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Wait... In fact the GL box was better. It had an intersting dvd with Guy videos from the 2008 tour, a cd with 3 bonus songs, the Limited edition of GL (with a nice dvd that was not in the standard), and the crap was less crap.
De GL CD+DVD was also standard available. Got two of them at home. One in the Deluxe Box and bought one as present for my mum.
In general I see your point and I agree on it. I have the GL box but it's just standing on a shelf catching good ol' dust. Have played the vinyl once or twice and that's it. I'd rather buy a separate vinyl with the actual cover as I like BIG covers. Have the KTGC single + album as vinyl. It's just cool to look at as it's slightly bigger than a normal album to look at. But playing it? No chance, don't have a record player no more! :lol
On Friday I'll get the 2CD privateering. The rest I'll download (buy) via iTunes or elsewhere when there's a possibility for having the additional hidden tracks too (your perfect song/occupation blues/river of grog/follow the ribbon).
Oh and by the way: the artprint everyone is talking about is only a printed version of the cover as far as I can see. See also the picture of the superdeduperdewhateverdeluxe box.
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Although the show to download beeing a GL one is not the best news as already released by Simfy I would point out :
- the source recording is much probably sourced from MK crew (and not Simfy) and so, a different mix
- we can hope for flac format instead of mp3.
But an US show would have been much better...
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Although the show to download beeing a GL one is not the best news as already released by Simfy I would point out :
- the source recording is much probably sourced from MK crew (and not Simfy) and so, a different mix
- we can hope for flac format instead of mp3.
But an US show would have been much better...
I agree :
STP duet with Tim O Brien
TIm O Brien instead of Mike McG
Remembrance Day was played
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Oh and by the way: the artprint everyone is talking about is only a printed version of the cover as far as I can see. See also the picture of the superdeduperdewhateverdeluxe box.
I stated my take on this earlier: It might be possible that on the pic we just see the sleeve and the art print is INSIDE. How dull would it be to number
an art print on the front, on the print itself? I expect the number on the back of the print... ? ::)
LE
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I agree, it might look a bit dull to have the number on the front. However, it's quite common to have a number on the front instead of the back. Got my vinyl True love will never fade single also with a number on the front, as well as a lot of art hanging around in the house. Anyway, on Friday (or Monday) we'll see what's inside. ;)
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Bit of a rant coming on.....I though OK - ill buy the deluxe 20 quid version from the official MK site - logged in and went through the ordering process...on the final page i had the chance to review the order before the final "OK" button....all looked good until i say the
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btw this is where they recorded the 5 live songs of the 3cds version
http://www.musicbank.org/
Thanks for that. I wonder which room they chose... :-\
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btw this is where they recorded the 5 live songs of the 3cds version
http://www.musicbank.org/
Thanks for that. I wonder which room they chose... :-\
The one next to the terrace...
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btw this is where they recorded the 5 live songs of the 3cds version
http://www.musicbank.org/
Thanks for that. I wonder which room they chose... :-\
The one next to the terrace...
hush r
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Hey, if anyhow, I am a ROMEO and no Juliet!! Wtf...
LE
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You are way past romeo amigo...
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Hey, if anyhow, I am a ROMEO and no Juliet!! Wtf...
LE
You're lucky, you missed the Lady Writer status. ;)
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Hey, if anyhow, I am a ROMEO and no Juliet!! Wtf...
LE
Keep on posting LE, you will soon be something else then ;-)
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Ah, thanks Ingrid!
I learned to live with it! After all, it seems I am "unique", means, the only Juliet around!! :lol :lol :lol
Whatwever,
LE
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Ah, thanks Ingrid!
I learned to live with it! After all, it seems I am "unique", means, the only Juliet around!! :lol :lol :lol
Whatwever,
LE
I'm a romeo by the way, so if we swap, it seems to be pretty accurate ;-))
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Since yesterday, I have this bad Bee Gees songs in mind. Ju-Ju-Ju-Lieeeeeeet
need to listen to Seattle more...
And Superval is a Rudiger...
LE
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I am a Rudiger so I must be a get-a-lifer! ;D
Sorry LE I think we posted simultaneously! ;D
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Oh yeah, I
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"Could you sign my back please..."
Imagine...
LE
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http://universalmusic.ch/music/artist/knopfler-mark/release/0602537043231
I do not know what it is, but it looks like DVD chapters:
CD: 6
01 Track info 00:47
Clip from 'On the Night'
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Pretty sure it's the directory of the "A Life In Songs" documentary, or let's say, some inofficial data about the tracks used in it. It fits with all the snippets we see in the docu.
LE
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http://universalmusic.ch/music/artist/knopfler-mark/release/0602537043231
I do not know what it is, but it looks like DVD chapters:
CD: 6
01 Track info 00:47
Clip from 'On the Night'
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Amazon delivered the Super Deluxe Box today.
The download is the Madrid Show from the GL Tour.
Artwork is a numbered print of the CD cover.
Will now listen to the most anticipated album!
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Amazon delivered the Super Deluxe Box today.
The download is the Madrid Show from the GL Tour.
Artwork is a numbered print of the CD cover.
Will now listen to the most anticipated album!
Thanks ! could you confirm one critical question for me:
Is the 5-song live CD included or not ???
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Herlock, unfortunately the rehearsal tracks are not included, it is the Life in Songs DVD.
The download from Madrid is in ca 250 kBit/s quality, if it is a different mix than the Simfy 320 kBit/s download I can't yet say.
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I remember Guy said at the time that was one of, if not the best show of the tour so far. Not my opinion but I suppose he should know best. I don't think there were any best shows on that tour actually!
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Herlock, unfortunately the rehearsal tracks are not included, it is the Life in Songs DVD.
The download from Madrid is in ca 250 kBit/s quality, if it is a different mix than the Simfy 320 kBit/s download I can't yet say.
Surferboy, thanks for the info.
So they are indeed laughing at us. The box has a lowest quality download of something we already have (or similar - I don't have Madrid, but I have 10 others, can't believe that Madrid is better than all of them ?); but the deluxe has something valuable (albeit very limited): 2011 rehearsals tracks.
So you need to buy both to have everything.
Only notable value of the Super Deluxe: 3 extra songs. Quality unkown. Please tell us !
And in France FNAC is also laughing at us, because they advertise the Super Deluxe Box as including the live CD (or maybe they just got confused - it is indeed confusing).
Pfff....
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I remember Guy said at the time that was one of, if not the best show of the tour so far. Not my opinion but I suppose he should know best. I don't think there were any best shows on that tour actually!
Acually the tour was superb, all the concerts I have are worth it. Paris especially, but I'm biased :)
My anger is not towards the Madrid show, I'm sure it is fine, but releasing it in a so-called Super Deluxe box while this has been done long ago by Simfy, whereas so many better things could have been done (like a Montreux DVD) makes me angry.
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Amazon delivered the Super Deluxe Box today.
The download is the Madrid Show from the GL Tour.
Artwork is a numbered print of the CD cover.
Will now listen to the most anticipated album!
So of course everyone is curious about the three bonus songs. Can you tell us something about them?
LE
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I remember Guy said at the time that was one of, if not the best show of the tour so far. Not my opinion but I suppose he should know best. I don't think there were any best shows on that tour actually!
Acually the tour was superb, all the concerts I have are worth it. Paris especially, but I'm biased :)
My anger is not towards the Madrid show, I'm sure it is fine, but releasing it in a so-called Super Deluxe box while this has been done long ago by Simfy, whereas so many better things could have been done (like a Montreux DVD) makes me angry.
Totally agree with you about the DVD thing.
Also, I agree that the earlier concerts may not have been as good musically but were far, far more inspired in comparison to the later ones such as Madrid where they seemed to be going through the motions of playing exactly the same thing day-in, day-out.
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Very short impression of the 3 bonus tracks:
I belong to those who love and treasure every song of Mark, even Time in the Sun.
Most will say, that these are clearly B-Sides.
No rockers, all are gently slow to mid tempo, comparable to the Perfect Song style and mood.
Occupation Blues: Nice midtempo gently flowing track, cannot remember MK having done anything similar in the past.
River of Grog: Just MK and acoustic guitar. The slowest of the three. The interesting thing about it: At a point in the song MK whistling as much as never before on a song.
Follow the Ribbon: Again a slow song but with electric guitar, pedal steel country character, the outro has Mark's guitar, but not dominant just adding touches to a gently flowing melody.
Cannot name songs to compare the three with like I can with many on Privateering.
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Very short impression of the 3 bonus tracks:
I belong to those who love and treasure every song of Mark, even Time in the Sun.
Most will say, that these are clearly B-Sides.
No rockers, all are gently slow to mid tempo, comparable to the Perfect Song style and mood.
Occupation Blues: Nice midtempo gently flowing track, cannot remember MK having done anything similar in the past.
River of Grog: Just MK and acoustic guitar. The slowest of the three. The interesting thing about it: At a point in the song MK whistling as much as never before on a song.
Follow the Ribbon: Again a slow song but with electric guitar, pedal steel country character, the outro has Mark's guitar, but not dominant just adding touches to a gently flowing melody.
Cannot name songs to compare the three with like I can with many on Privateering.
Thanks for your comments!
Interesting, mainly MK whistling!
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El Macho, you are welcome!
Many of you will be able to characterize the bonus tracks more accurately, but I wanted to give you a first impression as soon as possible.
I hope many of you will receive the CD or box sets today, too and enjoy it.
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Fantastic!
For once the rockers are on the album and not off ;D
Leave out the soothing songs!
A+ in my book!
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Fantastic!
For once the rockers are on the album and not off ;D
Leave out the soothing songs!
A+ in my book!
I managed to listen to the whole album....
Where are the rockers ? :)
No that I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I can't find the equivalent of what I loved in Get Lucky: a new Sultans (Border Reiver) and a new Brothers (Piper to the end), both being the ones Mark chose to play live for the GL tour, great !
Here... well let's say I love Redbud Tree, Yon Two Crows, Kingdom of Gold and that the others are nice, but I had no "relevation" like the two mentioned above....
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Fantastic!
For once the rockers are on the album and not off ;D
Leave out the soothing songs!
A+ in my book!
I managed to listen to the whole album....
Where are the rockers ? :)
No that I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I can't find the equivalent of what I loved in Get Lucky: a new Sultans (Border Reiver) and a new Brothers (Piper to the end), both being the ones Mark chose to play live for the GL tour, great !
Here... well let's say I love Redbud Tree, Yon Two Crows, Kingdom of Gold and that the others are nice, but I had no "relevation" like the two mentioned above....
above all where are the solos ?
I only found 1, Dream of the Drowned Submariner
Redbud Tree.
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Fantastic!
For once the rockers are on the album and not off ;D
Leave out the soothing songs!
A+ in my book!
I managed to listen to the whole album....
Where are the rockers ? :)
No that I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I can't find the equivalent of what I loved in Get Lucky: a new Sultans (Border Reiver) and a new Brothers (Piper to the end), both being the ones Mark chose to play live for the GL tour, great !
Here... well let's say I love Redbud Tree, Yon Two Crows, Kingdom of Gold and that the others are nice, but I had no "relevation" like the two mentioned above....
above all where are the solos ?
I only found 1, Dream of the Drowned Submariner
Redbud Tree.
right yes, 2 :)
I used to could and Gator Blood. Great songs.
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Fantastic!
For once the rockers are on the album and not off ;D
Leave out the soothing songs!
A+ in my book!
I managed to listen to the whole album....
Where are the rockers ? :)
No that I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I can't find the equivalent of what I loved in Get Lucky: a new Sultans (Border Reiver) and a new Brothers (Piper to the end), both being the ones Mark chose to play live for the GL tour, great !
Here... well let's say I love Redbud Tree, Yon Two Crows, Kingdom of Gold and that the others are nice, but I had no "relevation" like the two mentioned above....
above all where are the solos ?
I only found 1, Dream of the Drowned Submariner
Redbud Tree.
right yes, 2 :)
Go, Love, Blood and Water...
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Fantastic!
For once the rockers are on the album and not off ;D
Leave out the soothing songs!
A+ in my book!
I managed to listen to the whole album....
Where are the rockers ? :)
No that I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I can't find the equivalent of what I loved in Get Lucky: a new Sultans (Border Reiver) and a new Brothers (Piper to the end), both being the ones Mark chose to play live for the GL tour, great !
Here... well let's say I love Redbud Tree, Yon Two Crows, Kingdom of Gold and that the others are nice, but I had no "relevation" like the two mentioned above....
above all where are the solos ?
I only found 1, Dream of the Drowned Submariner
Redbud Tree.
right yes, 2 :)
Go, Love, Blood and Water...
Today is okay ! Absolute killer song for me !
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I used to could and Gator Blood. Great songs.
It's not the I don't like the blues ones, but they don't tell me much at all,
seem like copied exactly from a Clapton album, with Mark voice instead of Eric.
Very rare guitar on the whole album.
My fav is: Yon Two Crows
Good Melodies: Seattle, Dream of the Drowned Submariner, Kingdom of Gold, Privateering
This is basically like a 'classic' MK album + really several blues (too many) to reach 20 songs.
EC don't do this kind a blues songs. He is more into Robert Johnson, Albert King, BB King... More guitar and vocal less harmonica. Kinda delta blues. He hasn't got like a gator blood or something like that. But i can understand your feeling and partly agree with you. MK isn't a blues man
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Just received an email from Bol.com. They confirmed (again) that disc 3 of the Deluxe edition contains 7 tracks. We will see tomorrow morning when it arrives. ???
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I used to could and Gator Blood. Great songs.
It's not the I don't the blues ones, but they don't tell me much at all,
seem like copied exactly from a Clapton album, with Mark voice instead of Eric.
Very rare guitar on the whole album.
My fav is: Yon Two Crows
Good Melodies: Seattle, Dream of the Drowned Submariner, Kingdom of Gold, Privateering
This is basically like a 'classic' MK album + really several blues (too many) to reach 20 songs.
I love the blues and always expected Mark to record a blues album - he even said he could do that one day himself. There's not much you can do to refresh the blues though, it's always gonna sound like Clapton, Buddy Guy or BB King. I love the fact he's finally given it a go.
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I used to could and Gator Blood. Great songs.
It's not the I don't the blues ones, but they don't tell me much at all,
seem like copied exactly from a Clapton album, with Mark voice instead of Eric.
Very rare guitar on the whole album.
My fav is: Yon Two Crows
Good Melodies: Seattle, Dream of the Drowned Submariner, Kingdom of Gold, Privateering
This is basically like a 'classic' MK album + really several blues (too many) to reach 20 songs.
I love the blues and always expected Mark to record a blues album - he even said he could do that one day himself. There's not much you can do to refresh the blues though, it's always gonna sound like Clapton, Buddy Guy or BB King. I love the fact he's finally given it a go.
that's exactly why I don't like them in this album.
If I want to listen to some blues, I listen a Clapton album who is the top for that.
I'd have preferred the classic MK album with 9-12 songs and more work on them (more guitar).
You can always burn your own cd, with the songs you like best and stuff, Pensaboy. Mark's recorded 3 country albums so far and there are also many guys such as Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and Chet Atkins himself who are in theory more qualified to do that. Mark's experimenting which is great since he always come up with something nice, no matter what style he chooses to approach. That's my humble opinion...
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Neither am I. As I have stated quite a few times here I don't like TRD, for example.
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WTO??
"Dear Maarten van Pottelberghe,
We're writing to inform that due to a production issue, the delivery of the Deluxe version, LP and box set of Privateering will be delayed.
The delivery to our warehouse is now expected for the week of September 3. They will then be shipped out as quickly as possible.
We do apologize for the delay and would like to offer you a free digital copy of the album on release day, September 4. On that day, we will send you an email that will contain a link to a page where you can download a copy of Privateering.
Thank you for your understanding, and for supporting Mark and his online community."
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:-(((((
Somehow me thinks that the logistics of the music biz is done by amateurs?!
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I mean, all of you who ordered to the MK official site. This happened already with the Get Lucky box in 2009... And was one of the main reasons I ignored the sale from mk.com website.
And it happened again.
:o
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Luckily my super box is supposed to be delivered by amazon tomorrow.
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Yep, mine too. The marknopfler.com team seems to be really helpful when it comes to the presale of tickets. But the rest is in need of improvement in my view.
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In a state of mental derangement (and because of other reasons ;D) I cancelled my Deluxe box this morning.... it should have been delievered next Wednesday. After thinking about it, I realized I made a big mistake because I now lost the Pre-Sale Amazon thingi stuff that ended on August 30th.
Then, this afternoon, I ordered the Deluxe Box again - now without the coupon thing - but I clicked on "Amazon Prime" (with idea to cancel it after 4 weeks) - now they say I have it on Monday - not sending,but delievering!
Anyway I guess I have the same chance to get lucky with seats on MK.com with or without that amazon crap. Now I am looking forward to my Deluxe box, just to have something nice for the shelf!
LE
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I'd bet that the seating provided by markknopfler.com is superior to that of amazon presale codes.
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I mean, when I am within the group of people that are in at 10:00:09 h when presale starts, and they give away the seats in order of the in-box, then it cant be too bad and amzon cannot do anything about it. I still have a (maybe smaller) chance at least to get into the first 3, 4 rows, or am I mistaken?
LE
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(I have to get rid of that Lady Writer status.)
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I'm with you on that, I cannot believe that amazon presale has priority.
(right now listening to yon two cros.....)
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(I have to get rid of that Lady Writer status.)
;-)
I'm with you on that, I cannot believe that amazon presale has priority.
(right now listening to yon two cros.....)
Only some 450 more posts...
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(I have to get rid of that Lady Writer status.)
One sympathizes (jesus)
LE
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So this is an "Aargh", I can't do 450 posts this evening.
May I suggest the status "Glen Saggers"?
;)
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Did I mention, that I love this forum? 7RonaldoMUFC seems to have fallen asleep?!
Give me a sign, if you can read this. Lol
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:-(((((
Somehow me thinks that the logistics of the music biz is done by amateurs?!
Agree
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Fnac will send the deluxe edition for the sept. 10th !!! :'(
MK.com will send the super box next week...
Fortunately, I downloaded the album illegally !
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gotten the delivery email by amazon bout an hour ago, arriving tomorrow. hail hail to Amazon (.de)
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Fnac will send the deluxe edition for the sept. 10th !!! :'(
MK.com will send the super box next week...
Fortunately, I downloaded the album illegally !
Man, do not incriminate yourself!
gotten the delivery email by amazon bout an hour ago, arriving tomorrow. hail hail to Amazon (.de)
Pottel is it free delivery? I refrained from ordering from any Amazon, because it takes more that 10 working days most of the time and the shipping cost is excruciating. OK, amazon.co.uk says it is free delivery over an amount but the prices there for new releases are always higher.
Got the same email from MK.com and still wonder, why the official site can't deliver earlier or the same day with Amazon, but probably 7-14 days later. The only thing I can assume (on their favour) is that the new album presales went over the estimated ones and they yhad to give all of the stock to Amazon to avoid any legal implications-penalties. Of course that means that they produced a smaller amount, thinking that the super deluxe won't sell, just like the GL.But , I am just assuming.
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Probably the delay is due to themshipping boxes to Canada to send them to europe again...
Anyway, the Mk guys do some great job with the presales, front row for the last couple of tours. :)
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Asked at the shop I preordered yesterday and they said Yes, your order is here but we can't sell it to you until tommorow.
I send my intellectually challenged wife to pick it up today (I tell her exactly what it is and how much it will cost) and she brings home the normal 2cd discs!
I ring the shop, No your order hasn't come in, we don't have any deluxe editions.
Devastated! :(
I've taken back the cd and got my money back just because of the stupid shop fkin me around, I'll buy it somewhere else!
Shouldve gone with Amazon.
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Fnac will send the deluxe edition for the sept. 10th !!! :'(
MK.com will send the super box next week...
Fortunately, I downloaded the album illegally !
You seem to be in France like me, could you help me with my dilemna ?
On the one hand, despite me being pissed at having to buy both the SD and Deluxe boxes to get everything (contrary to what FNAC says btw !!), I still want to buy them ASAP... Now, it seems that it is better to buy directly at a FNAC shop on monday rather than preordering; but, doing so, I loose the so-called preferential sitting for pre-ordering... but reading this forum I am now under the impression that this preferential sitting is bullshit anyway, that going at the opening of presales on MK.com will give me a better seat than the FNAC ones....
What should I do ?? I'm really confused... I have until Sunday to pre-order, I really feel like giving this a miss and showing up physically on a shop on monday... Am I right ?
Thanks and cheers
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i have the bonus tracks here
nice, but not really necessary
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Fnac will send the deluxe edition for the sept. 10th !!! :'(
MK.com will send the super box next week...
Fortunately, I downloaded the album illegally !
You seem to be in France like me, could you help me with my dilemna ?
On the one hand, despite me being pissed at having to buy both the SD and Deluxe boxes to get everything (contrary to what FNAC says btw !!), I still want to buy them ASAP... Now, it seems that it is better to buy directly at a FNAC shop on monday rather than preordering; but, doing so, I loose the so-called preferential sitting for pre-ordering... but reading this forum I am now under the impression that this preferential sitting is bullshit anyway, that going at the opening of presales on MK.com will give me a better seat than the FNAC ones....
What should I do ?? I'm really confused... I have until Sunday to pre-order, I really feel like giving this a miss and showing up physically on a shop on monday... Am I right ?
Thanks and cheers
At fnac.com, only the deluxe edition seems to be delayed. So I think it'll be the same in the FNAC stores.
Maybe they'll have the deluxe edition in other stores ? Virgin, supermarkets....
The deluxe edition is also delayed at amazon.fr.
I think it's a general delay due to the supplier
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My wife got her De Luxe edition yesterday afternoon - a delivery from Universal, I think - and, with commendable restraint, only opened it this morning, some 16 or so hours later. Life is very busy these days. She is very pleased with the package. The LPs feel heavyweight, with the sleeve and labels of each LP matching --- and those heavy LPs can be pretty pricey to buy from the specialist firms.
We have a car journey tomorrow, so I'll probably dub the album on to "slave" CDs today and we'll play the new album as we drive along.
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At fnac.com, only the deluxe edition seems to be delayed. So I think it'll be the same in the FNAC stores.
Maybe they'll have the deluxe edition in other stores ? Virgin, supermarkets....
The deluxe edition is also delayed at amazon.fr.
I think it's a general delay due to the supplier
Thanks, but do you think there is any value in preorderning with the prefential seats for the 2013 tour bullshit (or reality) ? what do you think ?
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The 3cd version at Bol.com is also delayed until september the 5th according to their site >:( ???
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3cds version on amazon.it delayed until september 19th.
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hallo Boys & Girls
I have ordered my copies (deluxe and superdeluxe edition around a month ago)by amazon it. Amazon write me that the delivery is expected after 7 september for super edition and 16 september for deluxe edition.
I try to download mp3 from amazon de but for my country (italy) the sale is not possible. Same story for itunes. WHY WHY WHY :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
Is not good that country so near has so different way to got the same thing. In amazon de is possible, as know, is possible obtain your perfect song, in italy n :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbeliefo.
Anyway Privateering is a great album :) :) :), another collection of songs, some great. some better but all make with heart. I am very happy when listen the voice and the guitar of Dire Straits
roll on geordie boy roll...
straitsway75
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I've taken back the cd and got my money back just because of the stupid shop fkin me around, I'll buy it somewhere else!
Shouldve gone with Amazon.
So glad I went to another shop and bought the standard CDs (again) - having the best evening listening to Privateering.
Shame, cos I was really interested in the live tracks, but I doubt I'll re-buy unless they're brilliant - ill catch them on YouTube no doubt!
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At amazon.de a German customer wrote in his review that he has the Super Deluxe Edition with the download coupon of the Madrid show, but TELEGRAPH ROAD!! is missing...
I guess he is right - he checked the www and found the official setlist with TR of course, but it is not contained in his download. :disbelief :disbelief
So if there was any reason for me NOT to buy the Super Deluxe, this one will do it! I can't believe it.... They sold it two years abo via simfylive complete and now....
Maybe someone of our Super Deluxe-AMITers can check??
Privateering is Number 1 at the amazon.de charts btw...
LE
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At amazon.de a German customer wrote in his review that he has the Super Deluxe Edition with the download coupon of the Madrid show, but TELEGRAPH ROAD!! is missing...
I guess he is right - he checked the www and found the official setlist with TR of course, but it is not contained in his download. :disbelief :disbelief
So if there was any reason for me NOT to buy the Super Deluxe, this one will do it! I can't believe it.... They sold it two years abo via simfylive complete and now....
Maybe someone of our Super Deluxe-AMITers can check??
Privateering is Number 1 at the amazon.de charts btw...
LE
Shameful !!
Is this an implict acknowledge that 2008/2010 versions of TR are too laid-back, "karaoke mode" ? will it be played in 2013 like in 2005 ? would be great...
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Has anyone actually heard the two-track live songs yet ???
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Has anyone actually heard the two-track live songs yet ???
Do you mean the five (not two) reahersal CD ?
I have only heard snipsets. Sound great, no audience clapping, fab sound.
I could not fins them in complete form though.....
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At amazon.de a German customer wrote in his review that he has the Super Deluxe Edition with the download coupon of the Madrid show, but TELEGRAPH ROAD!! is missing...
I guess he is right - he checked the www and found the official setlist with TR of course, but it is not contained in his download. :disbelief :disbelief
So if there was any reason for me NOT to buy the Super Deluxe, this one will do it! I can't believe it.... They sold it two years abo via simfylive complete and now....
Maybe someone of our Super Deluxe-AMITers can check??
Privateering is Number 1 at the amazon.de charts btw...
LE
Shameful !!
Is this an implict acknowledge that 2008/2010 versions of TR are too laid-back, "karaoke mode" ? will it be played in 2013 like in 2005 ? would be great...
I would say so, regarding your first point.
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Bol.com said on Twitter they will send the presale code for Holland on monday september 3rd
https://twitter.com/bol_com_muziek/status/241521232095367170
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I won't add to the general paranoia. twm, said he's already got it! The rest of us are still waiting. And the thing about the extra tracks, I really think it is the last time I fall for such marketing. And I am a fool only for 2-3 artists, but I won't take it even from them, anymore. Maybe this is the only way to teach them a lesson. I would have probably accepted every mis-step they have made on fans' expense, if they delivered on time or given the chance to cancel order. This is a serious violation of trust and when things cool off a bit they will hear it from me.
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I also got the super box today, why is this not possible everywhere?
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I have the deluxe box too. My wife works at Mediamarkt and they got the box this afternoon. Just in time before she went home.
Very strange that Bol.com is saying universal got problems, I think Bol has got a problem.
Anyway. I really like this box. The DVD has got a little bit from the EPK on it. Not the whole EPK. And the three bonus songs are great.
Mark whistling on river of grog (he must be drunk when writing ;)) great song IMO.
Occupation blues would love to hear this song live. Really like the guitar in this song.
Follow the ribbon. Don't know what to think about this one, too slow for me but then again love the strat sound in it. Have to hear it more.
And what about the box I hear you think, well I am just a sucker for box sets.
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yeah but the total content is a bit poor, no real book(let) no cool little extra'S (demo'S people!! or live shit...)
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That's true. Also the numbered card :-\ just the cover with a number on it. Mine is 5712. I have got another box for my brother in law. Will not be open till next thursday.
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poor artwork, poor content (credit card? a cheapo cardboard card!) poor choice of concerts (great show, but come on, it was released already) great album...
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The DVD contains a life in songs and the a little piece from the EPK is mixed in it.
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Speaking of crap content:
Don't forget the 5 "Live from the Rehearsal room" tracks... (no haven't heard them yet... but the choice of tracks alone..)
Have said it before: The Dylan Knopf-shows were around 75 minutes - perfect for a Live CD... why for heaven's sake not put a COMPLETE show on it ....
LE
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Speaking of crap content:
Don't forget the 5 "Live from the Rehearsal room" tracks... (no haven't heard them yet... but the choice of tracks alone..)
Have said it before: The Dylan Knopf-shows were around 75 minutes - perfect for a Live CD... why for heaven's sake not put a COMPLETE show on it ....
LE
100% agree. Disgusting..
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Speaking of crap content:
Don't forget the 5 "Live from the Rehearsal room" tracks... (no haven't heard them yet... but the choice of tracks alone..)
Have said it before: The Dylan Knopf-shows were around 75 minutes - perfect for a Live CD... why for heaven's sake not put a COMPLETE show on it ....
LE
those ARE brilliant versions (based on the snippets.)
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Speaking of crap content:
Don't forget the 5 "Live from the Rehearsal room" tracks... (no haven't heard them yet... but the choice of tracks alone..)
Have said it before: The Dylan Knopf-shows were around 75 minutes - perfect for a Live CD... why for heaven's sake not put a COMPLETE show on it ....
LE
those ARE brilliant versions (based on the snippets.)
I agree, but there are 5 of them, where there should really be 11or even 14. Where ils WII ? Marbletown ?? Speedway ? Brothers ??
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I thought these big store chains try to serve equally no matter where they are. Media Markt here, didn't even have the regular version. I don't mind waiting a couple of years to appear. It will be cheaper...
The first and only(?) album I got the day it was released must have been OES. No extras, just a single vinyl. Oh and then I could feel the anticipation. I already had the Calling Elvis 7'' and 12'', MTV was all over them, with specials songs and adds, (actually I have recorder and mixed straight on the VHS many of the specials-my favourite is when he says that fade to black was a r'n'r Chuck Berry style number and picks up the guitar and plays it like a r'n'r number!)
Now I am not even tempted to download it. I am only pissed about the new marketing conditions. It's as if they try the patience of the fans, or believe that "we own them anyway, so let's serve everybody else first".
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As the band is great and the material is, I have no doubt that the bonus rehearsal tracks are great. What I meant:
Don't you think that when you have done (great) rehearsals and then go on touring, that at the end of the tour there are some really much better and tighter and phantastic versions do exist? Rehearsal is one thing. Playing them live is another dimenson.
And I just wondered why offer stuff out of the rehearsal room when there was a high praised tour afterwards. I did not doubt the quality of the recordings itself but the choice.
Expect my Deluxe Edition within the next few hours. I will report when I have listened! ;)
LE
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They have Madrid stored in a 200MB hard disk so they couldn't include Telegraph Road
(...)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
:o :o :o
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As the band is great and the material is, I have no doubt that the bonus rehearsal tracks are great. What I meant:
Don't you think that when you have done (great) rehearsals and then go on touring, that at the end of the tour there are some really much better and tighter and phantastic versions do exist? Rehearsal is one thing. Playing them live is another dimenson.
And I just wondered why offer stuff out of the rehearsal room when there was a high praised tour afterwards. I did not doubt the quality of the recordings itself but the choice.
Expect my Deluxe Edition within the next few hours. I will report when I have listened! ;)
LE
You have a good point here, LE.
Only advantage maybe of the rehearsal: no audience noise... juste like the "One take radio sessions" CD with the nice Rudiger version.
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I always thought MK was seriously trashed during those radio session recordings...
LE
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When any of you receive your 3cd version from bol.com, please confirm if the 3rd cd has 7 songs and What it is as the first track...
:)
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I always thought MK was seriously trashed during those radio session recordings...
LE
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When any of you receive your 3cd version from bol.com, please confirm if the 3rd cd has 7 songs and What it is as the first track...
:)
I've got the deluxe with the 5 normal songs. No bol.com, but buyed in the netherlands ofcourse.
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When any of you receive your 3cd version from bol.com, please confirm if the 3rd cd has 7 songs and What it is as the first track...
:)
3CD version @ bol.com is delayed, probably released next week (4 or 5th of September).
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When any of you receive your 3cd version from bol.com, please confirm if the 3rd cd has 7 songs and What it is as the first track...
:)
3CD version @ bol.com is delayed, probably released next week (4 or 5th of September).
If it arrives, and it doesnt have that songs... could be returned as its not what you ordered?
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got an email from mk.com the box set will be delayed due to production quality issues... ???
wtf? :o
anybody else ordered it through mk.com?
Anybody got that message? :disbelief
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got an email from mk.com the box set will be delayed due to production quality issues... ???
wtf? :o
anybody else ordered it through mk.com?
Anybody got that message? :disbelief
Thats something that was expected to happen...
In 2009 it happened with the Get Lucky box. Anyone that ordered or bought it from other places had it the same day or the next week. All the people who ordered it from mk.com had to wait A LOT because the same reasons...
I was sure that it would happen again. And it did.
Never order a release for them, they are a total disaster.
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got an email from mk.com the box set will be delayed due to production quality issues... ???
wtf? :o
anybody else ordered it through mk.com?
Anybody got that message? :disbelief
That is weird. Anyone who has the box now will be checking the thing to see if it's fallen apart! Seriously though, I'd be a little concerned.
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got an email from mk.com the box set will be delayed due to production quality issues... ???
wtf? :o
anybody else ordered it through mk.com?
Anybody got that message? :disbelief
That is weird. Anyone who has the box now will be checking the thing to see if it's fallen apart! Seriously though, I'd be a little concerned.
Yes... the digital download is from something we already have, and with one song less...
;D
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got an email from mk.com the box set will be delayed due to production quality issues... ???
wtf? :o
anybody else ordered it through mk.com?
Anybody got that message? :disbelief
Thats something that was expected to happen...
In 2009 it happened with the Get Lucky box. Anyone that ordered or bought it from other places had it the same day or the next week. All the people who ordered it from mk.com had to wait A LOT because the same reasons...
I was sure that it would happen again. And it did.
Never order a release for them, they are a total disaster.
Confirm. Never any deal with mk.com
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Just heard this morning from Amazon UK that my 3-CD Deluxe is delayed with an estimated delivery of 6th September!
I do have one little ray of hope - because I am a UK citizen and booked more than two tickets from MK.com, I am due to get a standard CD today! We will see! :)
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Just heard this morning from Amazon UK that my 3-CD Deluxe is delayed with an estimated delivery of 6th September!
I do have one little ray of hope - because I am a UK citizen and booked more than two tickets from MK.com, I am due to get a standard CD today! We will see! :)
That's too bad. I ordered my 2CD with promo code too so I should get that, but didn't Amazon promise delivery on day of release? I eventually ordered with HMV so I'll wait and see...
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Just heard this morning from Amazon UK that my 3-CD Deluxe is delayed with an estimated delivery of 6th September!
Same thing on fnac.com and amazon.fr.
New release date for the 3CD edition : september 10th. >:(
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My 'free' copy from the record label, allegedly sent on Friday night, did NOT turn up today. This is the one that comes as a result of ordering concert tickets. I cancelled my 3 CD version on Saturday night from Amazon, just as well as I see from others it's delayed. Luckily, I have Spotify, and I'm listening to the album through that as I write.
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Incidentally, my local HMV has plenty of copies of the 2CD version, but none of the 3, so there really does seem to be a problem with it.
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Here is the situation in France:
1/The 2-CD standard version is all over the place. I appreciated that the album has been given a lot of shelf space in FNAC (France's main distributor) and the album is even played.... I bought one copy, since this is the only thing I could find today.
2) The 3-CD deluxe edition is delayed one week (September 10). I ordered one last friday in order to receive the special sitting code (which I have yet to receive... I hope tomorrow).
3) The Super Deluxe Box, which I wanted to buy (even though I think it is a rip-off, for reasons that have been discussed at length here), is nowhere to be found in Paris. It is written "In stock" in fnac.com but when you got to the actual shops or call, that is another story. It seems that they are imported from Germany, that's why our germans friends are luckier than us. It seems that only two boxes are available in Creteil, 1.5 hours from my hope, I can't find the motivation to go there right now, I think I will wait and enjoy the normal album...
Not very brillant logistics, what do you think ?
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Deluxe box set avalaible here in FNAC Lyon, but I didn't buy it for same reasons discussed here. ;D
Std edition is fine for me
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For info, I bought the 3 CD Deluxe version in HMV (in the UK) today & they told me they had sold one of the boxed sets with Vinyl too.
( they had to check the stock room as there were none on display -and only about 6 of the 2 CD versions )
Still waiting for my free 2 CD version . . . ::)
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What quality(bitrate) is the Madrid download?
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For info, I bought the 3 CD Deluxe version in HMV (in the UK) today & they told me they had sold one of the boxed sets with Vinyl too.
( they had to check the stock room as there were none on display -and only about 6 of the 2 CD versions )
Still waiting for my free 2 CD version . . . ::)
I got an e-mail today telling me they had "shipped" (I think they meant posted ;)) my free 2CD today.
HMV still haven't delivered my 3CD version and I haven't had any notice from them either to say it'll be late.
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Amazon Italy has delayed the box until the end of the month...
WTF?
What a great marketing strategy...
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Amazon Italy has delayed the box until the end of the month...
WTF?
What a great marketing strategy...
Didn't they promise delivery on the date of it's release? They did on Amazon UK, just like they did on HMV! Would we be just taking this as calmly if we never had the leak/Spotify etc? :disbelief
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To anyone who has ordered the box set on Universal (as suggested to UK fans by MK.com), has anyone received it yet or at least received any confirmation of despatch? Mine is still showing as 'In Progress' on my account page...
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What was the mk.com excuse? I think DMG mentioned it here and was a little concern about the box quality, not of the content but the box itself...
Is it possible that the box had something wrong and they noticed late?
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Amazon Italy has delayed the box until the end of the month...
WTF?
What a great marketing strategy...
Yep, I've just received an e-mail informing me that the shipping date of my superdeluxe box is delayed by a month. The new expected date is Oct, 8th. Adding more sis weeks, the usual time for thing to arrive in Brasil, it will be my Christmas gift. Je suis desole.
Regards
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What quality(bitrate) is the Madrid download?
i got it in 256kbs, and there was no "selection" to be made.
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What quality(bitrate) is the Madrid download?
i got it in 256kbs, and there was no "selection" to be made.
Simfy was 320. Pas assez cher mon fils!
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My Deluxe Edition was delivered on Saturday, Sept 1. (Release day in Germany was Friday, Aug 31). Yesterday I got mail from amazon.de and they sent me a 5,-
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What quality(bitrate) is the Madrid download?
i got it in 256kbs, and there was no "selection" to be made.
Thanks for letting me know.
This is a strange choice for an artist who spends so much time and money on/in the studio.
The complete show should have been made available in flac.The way it has been done shouts of cheapness:(
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What quality(bitrate) is the Madrid download?
i got it in 256kbs, and there was no "selection" to be made.
Thanks for letting me know.
This is a strange choice for an artist who spends so much time and money on/in the studio.
The complete show should have been made available in flac.The way it has been done shouts of cheapness:(
Major companies seems to be not interested by distributing music in Flac format.
I wait for the time when Mark will distribute himself his work. Then, maybe quality (shoes) will be at our door.
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Pottel, LE, understand you have already received your deluxe boxes. Any problems with the box?
jbaent, I guess amazon.it, offered a better price but in order to do so they accepted a slower shipping method: Mules and donkeys. ;D For overseas they will use dolphins.
It goes to show that the so called "healthy competition" is not healthy at all. And as a great football player used to say:" Football is a game played by two teams, and in the end Germany wins". Amazon.de 4-All the rest 0
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no problem as far as i can see. for the super box. i am still waiting for my normal box (from mk.com)
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I ordered the 2cd from amazon uk and the super deluxe from mk.com. I currently have neither. Luckily I downloaded it from the internet for nowt. The music industry is its own worst enemy. If it was any other artist I would cancel my legit orders and stick with my dodgy copy.
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"Cancel my subscription to the resurrection..."
Banjo I know how you feel. But I just received a mail with a code to download the album from MK.com. !!!
Do they read this forum or what!!!
I don't know if I can resist not listening to it. But I really wanted the full experience. By the way, I couldn't find it , not even the simple edition, at the shops ...They sabotage MK. ;D
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No problem at all. There's nothing wrong with it, manufactured pretty well and looking good: Only some extended liner notes are missing as I said earlier.
LE
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poor booklet really for a "deluxe version" luckily the music is so good...
two words: David Gilmour....
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Thank you guys for the replies. I was almost certain that there was no problem, but still...
About the nice editions, except Gilmour, I can also think of Jimi Hendrix, but as one AMITer mentioned earlier, these artists are re-issuing things, while MK is serving new material every couple of years. Of course a lot can be said about Bob Dylan's and Neil Young's archives, that are actually new releases. Pottel, do you know if there is a team behind this, or if Bob participates even a little bit (I know Neil does) with his busy program?
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Finally my copy of the deluxe edition arrived yesterday!! :lol
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poor booklet really for a "deluxe version" luckily the music is so good...
two words: David Gilmour....
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Originally my idea was to wait for my order from Amazon Italy for the box, and from play.com for the 3cd version, but yesterday I decided to cancel the 3cd and I went to the Fnac in Valencia to buy it in person even it was 5 euros more...
When I arrived to the Fnac, they were selling just the standard and the box (at 75 euros, 15 euros more than my amazon Italy order) so I came back home with empty hands and ordered again the 3cd version from play.com...
Must be first time that the new MK release is out and I still dont have it but hey, I cant waste money, so if I can have it cheaper, I will.
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I'll just stand by Amazon Italy for at least one more month to save some money. Otherwise I would cancel the order and try it somewhere else.
But they are being very mean to fans, yes they are.
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MK.com now have a note on the deluxe edition & box set: Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery :o
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No idea on Dylan vgonis, where is Twm when you need him?
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I'm here but very busy with some family matters.
If you're referring to the BOOTLEG SERIES issues, Dylan's people are closely involved. Sometimes they conceive the project, research it, decide the content and so on, handing it over to Sony Legacy to master etc . That's my understanding. For example, the decision to "construct" a Rolling Thunder concert for BOOTLEG SERIES VOL.5 was made by Dylan's people, not by the record comapny. I have no doubt that there was a certain amount of discussion about this and other releases in the series but it was, in effect, a "Dylan" decision, not a Sony decision. I don't know just how much Dylan is involved. I'm sure he has to OK such a release but the official line seems to be that he doesn't pay very much attention to such things. My guess is that he does - but maybe less than Neil Young does to his archive releases - as I can't imagine he allows anything this major to be released in his name without a say-so.
That said, Sony seem to be able to undertake re-relelases and compilations of already released material without direct involvement from Dylan's people. For example, the 3-CD "DYLAN" release of a few years ago (the one in the red box set, thought there were jewel case versions) was entirely the responsibility of Sony UK, who conceived it, put it together and marketed it. Of course, there was involvement from Dylan's office (as in the agrrement for the re-working of one old track by Mark Ronson for a video in support of the release) but rumour had it that they had to delay a project they had in mind because of it. There was scepticism that the "DYLAN" box set would do well but, in point of fact, it sold surprisingly well, such that Sony tried something similar with a later Dylan relelase, with a hefty price tag for the De Luxe version. There was an outcry from Dylan fans, at which point the unofficial word from Dylan's office was that pricing was a record comapny matter and that it would not be permitted to happen again. A[ll second-hand reports from people who know people etc.]
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Thank you twm. I guess a creative man such as Dylan, even though he recognizes the value of his past work, he considers it as such and let others that he trust do the work.
I know what you mean and thank you for answering to a question I haven't even posed about the Dylan compilation, in the red box.
I was reading a book by Andre Schiffrin-"L' edition sans editeurs" and he was explaining there, how small publishing houses were taken over by big ones and then bought by billionaires. Their only concern was how to make more money, even if that meant leaving all the books that were no best sellers, usually the ones with qualities. And prices had to go up as well. And then they closed or re sold the small publishing houses. I have seen the same story in smaller scale in Greece, before the crisis.
I don't like it, and I think that artists that are big as a company (like Dylan, Young and why not Knopfler) should be allowed to have control, not only of the released material, but also about the way it is released, the format, the price, the promotion and the time frame.
I just hope that this is the last time such thing happens for Knopfler and I will be waiting for a similar announcement (even unofficial but I would prefer official) about the peculiar multi editions and pricing (especially with the multi format editions that force the fan to buy everything in order to obtain all recorded material) and the weird shipping strategy. I mean amazon.de customers got their copies the day of release (or a day after and got a partial refund), while the rest of us that ordered from MK.com, the OFFICIAL site, will get it a month and a half later(!), and I want to see what they will do for compensation.
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I was away visiting family today and, when I got back, my "De luxe" copy of TEMPEST was awaiting me. It's nothing much really. You get the standard jewell case version of the album, in a card slip case that also contains a small notebook with, on some pages, magazine covers, from across the years, that happen to have Dylan on the cover. While I find these quite attractive, the average record buyer would find this a pretty poor "extra" in my view. While it is much, much cheaper than the de luxe PRIVATEERING, the "de luxe" TEMPEST is also a lot, lot smaller and a lot less attractive . In fact, the record comapny has a cheek calling it "de luxe" at all. It is a marginally enhanced version of the regular album.
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Did anyone received their 3cd version from bol.com?
I
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You are not REALLY expecting that, do you? ;D ;D
LE
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Did anyone received their 3cd version from bol.com?
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You are not REALLY expecting that, do you? ;D ;D
LE
From this proffesional bunch of proffesionals, I can expect anything...
;D ;D ;D
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Did anyone received their 3cd version from bol.com?
I
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It is probably a case of hearsay, misinformation, or bad employee trying to get rid of "annoying customer", by saying yes to everything. If it is in writing it is more solid, but still only if it comes from Universal or mk.com. I really believe that it is not just this thing or the other, because if you deal with them separately they are rather minor and easy find a truthful convincing excuse. It is all of them put together, with the worse of them being that I still don't have even a simple copy. ;D
It reminds me of an episode from Fry and Laurie, where a politician gives a speech/press conference, stating in a very serious tone that the youth of today should be disciplined and have a better education, because they should learn that it is not a good thing ... breaking his car window!!! ;D
Only three seasons from this duo, but what a show!
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My Deluxe Edition arrived today, exactly one week after release. Thank-you very much HMV!
Anyway, after listening to the bonus tracks has anyone else noticed that Mark mixes up the lyrics on that version of CBC? It's during the last verse.
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:D No, not really... thanks for telling us!!
However, he is allowed to do so, because it was just rehearsal, wasn't it?? :lol :lol
LE
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:D No, not really... thanks for telling us!!
However, he is allowed to do so, because it was just rehearsal, wasn't it?? :lol :lol
LE
On an official release!! I love nerdy stuff like this - forgive me! ;D
To be really nerdy he also misses out some words during WAM! He sings: "...concrete...bricks..." Where are the adjectives Mark? What are you doing with these bricks? :lol
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No problem, it is just: I would have never noticed it - the lyrics are not exactly what I would call the most intellectual ones he has ever written, and the lasst verse is pretty meaningless apart from repeating the first verse as a coda... Funny that you noticed it! :lol
LE
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No problem, it is just: I would have never noticed it - the lyrics are not exactly what I would call the most intellectual ones he has ever written, and the lasst verse is pretty meaningless apart from repeating the first verse as a coda... Funny that you noticed it! :lol
LE
You're very polite in saying "funny that you noticed it." Sad that you noticed it would probably be closer to the truth! :lol
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I stumbled upen the line
"Well, it's a big old world out there, go get it if you can..."
and especially the last part, "go get it..." is sung by Mark in a very ...bumby? As if he was very... funny?? :lol Did you notice that, also?
LE
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I got my deluxe version yesterday.
In cbc,in the beginning, there's like a sample bug (the guitar rif played by Mark), just like a CD player that bugs !
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Got it yesterday.
I have listended the first 6 tracks : although a bit weak for an opening song Redbud Tree sounds fine , Corned Beef City would have made a perfect single b-side, the rest did not really entertain me :-\
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I still haven't received my deluxe version ordered from MK.com........maybe today will be the big day :-\
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I still haven't received my deluxe version ordered from MK.com........maybe today will be the big day :-\
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I still haven't received my deluxe version ordered from MK.com........maybe today will be the big day :-\
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I was hoping too, but alas my postie came and went.
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neither have i......
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Today I received my 3cd deluxe version, bought at www.play.com, the cheaper price and the fastest service.
What a poor booklet, with so many musicians I expected at least to know in which tracks played the occasional musicians of the recording...
Its not deluxe at all.
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nope. same goes for he big box imho. poor booklet.
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Today I received my 3cd deluxe version, bought at www.play.com, the cheaper price and the fastest service.
What a poor booklet, with so many musicians I expected at least to know in which tracks played the occasional musicians of the recording...
Its not deluxe at all.
I agree, it's like a hard-back book. The booklet doesn't come out and what annoys me is (similar to the Real Live Roadrunning CD/DVD combo) is that if you want to listen to CD2 you first have to remove CD1. The bonus disc which will hardly be used isn't tucked underneath like CD2 but is on the right hand side with easy access! I'd say it's worth the extra few pounds though because it only cost me
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You are allowed to change the CDs then... ;)
LE
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Does anyone have information about the shipping of the super deluxe boxes from mk.com?
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Apart from the 6-8 weeks that someone mentioned reading on mk.com, I haven't received a single mail saying anything.
By the way, a friend of mine, knowing my fixation with MK, said that he saw the deluxe box at the shelves of a central record shop. It would be the only one, since I have been to MM and the biggest Greek multi store, yesterday and nothing there, not even Tempest. Not even Crises by Mike Oldfield! ;D
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Does anyone have information about the shipping of the super deluxe boxes from mk.com?
I got an email on Aug. 30th saying they were expecting shipments to their warehouse the week of Sept. 3rd and would then be sent from there as quickly as possible.
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I received today the box from Amazon Italy, and I was very dissapointed as well...
I realised that they could had put the 3cd deluxe version inside the box very easily, the only thing that it was needing was design the box with the deep of that version to make it fit there, and then space for the cd and the dvd, very easy to do...
Unless your idea from the very beguinning is sell two editions to every get-a-lifer fan.
That probably was.
The art print... no matter is numbered, numbered by who? It would had had any value if it had MK sign, but that way it doesnt worth anything, totally pointless. I rather have the dice and chips, at least they look nice and different.
Crap, totally crap.
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This all seems very familiar. I seem to remembering it happening last time with the Get Lucky box set.
There was a mad rush of fans to order one, then a delay, administrative and shipping cock-ups ending up in disappointment when it finally arrived.
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I received today the box from Amazon Italy, and I was very dissapointed as well...
I realised that they could had put the 3cd deluxe version inside the box very easily, the only thing that it was needing was design the box with the deep of that version to make it fit there, and then space for the cd and the dvd, very easy to do...
Unless your idea from the very beguinning is sell two editions to every get-a-lifer fan.
That probably was.
The art print... no matter is numbered, numbered by who? It would had had any value if it had MK sign, but that way it doesnt worth anything, totally pointless. I rather have the dice and chips, at least they look nice and different.
Crap, totally crap.
Don't forget to vote. No manifesto pledge, no deception.
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September 12, 2012
Hello,
We've got some good news about your pre-ordered copy of Mark's new album, Privateering.
We have now received stock of the LP and Deluxe Box Set editions, and today orders started to ship from our warehouse. Orders will be fulfilled in the sequence they were received, so while your order may not be on the way just yet, it should ship very soon. We are confident that you will have your copy of the album by the end of the month.
Thank you again for your patience and understanding.
Until next time,
The MarkKnopfler.com Team
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I've got this mail too !
The end of september, that's still more than 2 weeks !
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reply from guy concerning TR:
Yes it was Mixed by Rich Cooper. Mark decided to remove TR.
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reply from guy concerning TR:
Yes it was Mixed by Rich Cooper. Mark decided to remove TR.
Now that's an interesting info. At least we know it is a purely artistic decision, not a commercial one...
But, why Mark decided to remove TR ?
a) because he thinks there are already too many official versions out there (just kidding: we only have Alchemy, On the Night was censored, the Sultans of Swing bonus disk - same, and both the passalong and simfy recordings are not available anymore !
b) because he thinks that this particular version (Madrid) is not good enough,
c) because he thinks that the whole 2010 tour versions are not good enough and he wants to retire the song in future (no ! please no !)
d) because he thinks that the 2013 version will be so much better that he prefers to wait for these ones (yes ! please yes !)
What do you guys think ?
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b and c
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b and c
Hope you're wrong...
I posted to Guy's forum, would really like an answer on this one.
Guess the answer will be something like "I have no idea", "who knows", or "none of the above"... :(
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i think we agree on that pensa. but question is, what makes him decide that?
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And some times they can't tell wrong from right. But really, we have so many recordings, official and unofficial it would be too much to ask for another official, that would cost us some more, just because it is official. After all we paid all this money for the new album and no TR either... ;D
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
How do you know for On the Night ? are you sure ? certainly in 1992 when his guitar playing was at the top, it could not possibily think that Sultans was dumb ? that TR was too slow ? that TOL was not worth it ?? Wasn't instead a stupid constraint like "this must fit on ONE CD" ?
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huh? and what about the "encores" cd?
not the reason.
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
No, not all, I know a big fuckin exception for RLRR that was not Mark.
(nitpicker strike again ;D )
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
No, not all, I know a big fuckin exception for RLRR that was not Mark.
(nitpicker strike again ;D )
don't get what you're trying to say here, pls ellaborate.
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Have you seen Guy's wonderful answer to my question about TR ?
a) !!!!
Even more ludicrous answer than I thougt... :(
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Have you seen Guy's wonderful answer to my question about TR ?
a) !!!!
Even more ludicrous answer than I thougt... :(
Its your fault, looks like you are new to his forum and his answers... You have to avoid that kind of options when you let him choose the answer...
;D
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
No, not all, I know a big fuckin exception for RLRR that was not Mark.
(nitpicker strike again ;D )
don't get what you're trying to say here, pls ellaborate.
Michelangelo excluded of Real Live Road Running is not Mark's decision.
And I consider that song as the high point of the show.
I have to do with the Verona broadcast but the sound is a bit saturating
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI9IUhFdeSc
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may well be serious and not ironic in their eyes.
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can anyone tell me why I can't get a confirmed delivery date for privateering in the US -very frustrating!!!
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The mailman just brought me my bday gift (that i bought to myself 15 days ago) , the album is absolutely fantastic, but i have to say that I'm blown away by the bonus live tracks. This is Mark at his best for sure!
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
How do you know for On the Night ? are you sure ? certainly in 1992 when his guitar playing was at the top, it could not possibily think that Sultans was dumb ? that TR was too slow ? that TOL was not worth it ?? Wasn't instead a stupid constraint like "this must fit on ONE CD" ?
he officially said he wanted a setlist as much as possible different from Alchemy
so no SOS, no TR, no TOL
Really he said that ?? Never read of heard....
In that case, why not removing RAJ and PI too, and make way for wicty, ftb, tilytm, iron hand ? :)
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
How do you know for On the Night ? are you sure ? certainly in 1992 when his guitar playing was at the top, it could not possibily think that Sultans was dumb ? that TR was too slow ? that TOL was not worth it ?? Wasn't instead a stupid constraint like "this must fit on ONE CD" ?
he officially said he wanted a setlist as much as possible different from Alchemy
so no SOS, no TR, no TOL
Really he said that ?? Never read of heard....
In that case, why not removing RAJ and PI too, and make way for wicty, ftb, tilytm, iron hand ? :)
We are talking about Mark Knopfler here...
Sultans and Telegraph were good enough to avoid a doble live cd again.
;D
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
How do you know for On the Night ? are you sure ? certainly in 1992 when his guitar playing was at the top, it could not possibily think that Sultans was dumb ? that TR was too slow ? that TOL was not worth it ?? Wasn't instead a stupid constraint like "this must fit on ONE CD" ?
he officially said he wanted a setlist as much as possible different from Alchemy
so no SOS, no TR, no TOL
Really he said that ?? Never read of heard....
In that case, why not removing RAJ and PI too, and make way for wicty, ftb, tilytm, iron hand ? :)
We are talking about Mark Knopfler here...
Sultans and Telegraph were good enough to avoid a doble live cd again.
;D
SoS,TOL and TR are fantastic on Alchemy, no doubt.
But the 92 versions have nice features (sax bridge for SoS, crazy end solo for TR, touching solo on Pensa for TOl) and having alternate versions would have been great.
What's wrong with making a double ??
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996
How do you know for On the Night ? are you sure ? certainly in 1992 when his guitar playing was at the top, it could not possibily think that Sultans was dumb ? that TR was too slow ? that TOL was not worth it ?? Wasn't instead a stupid constraint like "this must fit on ONE CD" ?
he officially said he wanted a setlist as much as possible different from Alchemy
so no SOS, no TR, no TOL
Really he said that ?? Never read of heard....
In that case, why not removing RAJ and PI too, and make way for wicty, ftb, tilytm, iron hand ? :)
We are talking about Mark Knopfler here...
Sultans and Telegraph were good enough to avoid a doble live cd again.
;D
SoS,TOL and TR are fantastic on Alchemy, no doubt.
But the 92 versions have nice features (sax bridge for SoS, crazy end solo for TR, touching solo on Pensa for TOl) and having alternate versions would have been great.
What's wrong with making a double ??
Record Companies / Artists / Managers etc etc had been avoiding double cds for a long time because it was thought that financially its not a good idea, as the cd would had to be priced expensive and wont sell so well...
I always thought they were wrong, and with Privateering I know they were wrong.
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ALL decisions are taken by MK
Same for On The Night
Same for A night in London DVD
Same for no live DVD of the solo tours since 1996I
How do you know for On the Night ? are you sure ? certainly in 1992 when his guitar playing was at the top, it could not possibily think that Sultans was dumb ? that TR was too slow ? that TOL was not worth it ?? Wasn't instead a stupid constraint like "this must fit on ONE CD" ?
he officially said he wanted a setlist as much as possible different from Alchemy
so no SOS, no TR, no TOL
Really he said that ?? Never read of heard....
In that case, why not removing RAJ and PI too, and make way for wicty, ftb, tilytm, iron hand ? :)
We are talking about Mark Knopfler here...
Sultans and Telegraph were good enough to avoid a doble live cd again.
;D
SoS,TOL and TR are fantastic on Alchemy, no doubt.
But the 92 versions have nice features (sax bridge for SoS, crazy end solo for TR, touching solo on Pensa for TOl) and having alternate versions would have been great.
What's wrong with making a double ??
Record Companies / Artists / Managers etc etc had been avoiding double cds for a long time because it was thought that financially its not a good idea, as the cd would had to be priced expensive and wont sell so well...
I always thought they were wrong, and with Privateering I know they were wrong.
Indeed.
With a more or less standard length of 2 hours for a concert and with a max length of CD of 80 minutes, you can only have heavily censored live albums with this reasoning.
And you can price whatever you want, the incremental cost of pressing 2 CDs is negligeable.
And, Alchemy being a double, it actually sold very well... Better than OTN....
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Did you all get your deluxe edition from mk.com now ? I didn`t, am still waiting :( ... it`s not a katastrophy, because I bought the super-deluxe at amazon, so I can hear the music...but it
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Am a bit annoyed as well....
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This (the above) and the customer service from MK.com regarding distribution of the album in it's various guises is great marketing for MK I must say. :disbelief
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thinking that Heavy Fuel,The Bug and Solid Rock can sell better than
SOS TR and TOL is a very smart idea indeed ...
Ideed this is stupid... or, rather, this could explain that MK, rather than the record company, makes decisions, and that they are not based on money but rather on "artistic" criteria like "I want a setlist as different as possible from Alchemy, those '83 versions are better anyway (but keep R&J because hey, every live record of mine should have R&J on it) !".
Though I think that with Alchemy (with the BBC documentary and Old Grey Whistle test trakcs) + On the night + Music for Montserrat + ANIL + RLRR DVDs, we have a pretty neat official video suite; we would need something more recent, though...
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Did you all get your deluxe edition from mk.com now ? I didn`t, am still waiting :( ... it`s not a katastrophy, because I bought the super-deluxe at amazon, so I can hear the music...but it
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Did you all get your deluxe edition from mk.com now ? I didn`t, am still waiting :( ... it`s not a katastrophy, because I bought the super-deluxe at amazon, so I can hear the music...but it
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Did you all get your deluxe edition from mk.com now ? I didn`t, am still waiting :( ... it`s not a katastrophy, because I bought the super-deluxe at amazon, so I can hear the music...but it
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still nothing ;-( month is almost over..
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joanzimm was it made in the USA or EU? Was it imported? I wonder...
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joanzimm was it made in the USA or EU? Was it imported? I wonder...
Made in the EU.
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joanzimm was it made in the USA or EU? Was it imported? I wonder...
Made in the EU.
If you don't laugh you'll cry. :disbelief
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Finally I got mine today, and it`s unbelievable, but they sent it from Canada !! What a waste of kerosine :disbelief Mark wouldn`t like it either...it`s MADE IN THE EU, sent to Canada just to be sent back to the EU...I will never order something from mk.com again...will support my local dealer in the future ;)
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The technocrats think that with such ways they help business economics, and when all you count is money, they might be right. But they surely don't take into account either the enviromental factors (the environment pays dearly and doesn't complain-or is it?) and the human factor (I mean when would they stop thinking about people as consumers-it is all done for them and workers-they raise the cost of production... and this is only just for starters)
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Finally I got mine today, and it`s unbelievable, but they sent it from Canada !! What a waste of kerosine :disbelief Mark wouldn`t like it either...it`s MADE IN THE EU, sent to Canada just to be sent back to the EU...I will never order something from mk.com again...will support my local dealer in the future ;)
I live in Brazil, waiting for my box to come from Italy. What will be the way of this package?
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Finally I got mine today, and it`s unbelievable, but they sent it from Canada !! What a waste of kerosine :disbelief Mark wouldn`t like it either...it`s MADE IN THE EU, sent to Canada just to be sent back to the EU...I will never order something from mk.com again...will support my local dealer in the future ;)
I live in Brazil, waiting for my box to come from Italy. What will be the way of this package?
EU to Canada to Italy to Brazil! If only it could collect air miles! :disbelief
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Finally I got mine today, and it`s unbelievable, but they sent it from Canada !! What a waste of kerosine :disbelief Mark wouldn`t like it either...it`s MADE IN THE EU, sent to Canada just to be sent back to the EU...I will never order something from mk.com again...will support my local dealer in the future ;)
I live in Brazil, waiting for my box to come from Italy. What will be the way of this package?
EU to Canada to Italy to Brazil! If only it could collect air miles! :disbelief
to then get a free cd for those miles :-)
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My guess is that Amazon stores got it straight from the factory in Europe, that is why they got it earlier than MK.com, so no extra miles.
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Just wanted to share that I received an email from MK yesterday saying: All US box sets have been shipped out on October 1 and can take anywhere between 4-14 business days to arrive.
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I got a mail 3 -4 weeks ago that they have received the Special deluxe and vinyl editions and they will start shipping. First orders first. Then a week later I got a second mail that they have also received the 3CD deluxe edition and that they will also start sending them out.
Now I know that in order to keep postage costs low they will have to send the big bulky items with M sacks or other slow way of delivery. I don't really mind.
The 1$ question is again, who wrote the number on the print that is included in the box. ;D I guess some factory worker if the box came factory sealed to the ones that have already received it. The other question is how many boxes were manifactured.
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I got mine last friday !
Sent from Canada... why is markknopfler.com based in Canada whereas Mark is in the UK?
It's a mistery to me ...
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Its been a mistery from years...
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Tax reasons most probably.
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Still no sign of my deluxe set.....
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And, Pottel, has your deluxe box finally arrived?
;D :lol :lol
(Just re-reading this wonderful thread again.)
LE