A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2010 Get Lucky Tour => Topic started by: guswallace on April 12, 2010, 11:47:10 AM
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Hi everybody !!!
It's seems any recording of us tour are in download :'(. Does someone know if a link allows us to have an idea of the sound.
Thanks
Guswallace ;) ;D
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There is a recording available, look at bt.etree!
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There is a recording available, look at bt.etree!
Nice!
I'm downloading!
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I am listening now :D
Goosebumps ..............
Have to wait till May 22nd for Newcastle for my first concert, way tooooooooooo long ::)
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Also Mark has upped the pace with this Tour by the sound of things....sounds AWESOME!!!!!!
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Real fresh, great guitarplaying :D Only 2 songs heard so far
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Real fresh, great guitarplaying :D Only 2 songs heard so far
You are in for a treat Ingrid ;D
Trust me I won't Spoil it but Mark is sounding much better on this tour!!!!!
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Hi can anyone point me to this recording?
Thanks
bt.etree
dot.com
on main page torrent flac format
credit goes to Lars for putting up link
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or on the tracker...
tracker.spanishcity.net (http://tracker.spanishcity.net)
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Ah some nice extra flac files! Let's buy another 1.5 TB hard drive! :lol
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Haha Localhero, same here :D ;D
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Interesting!
Interesting choice of songs, guitar sounds, and vocalists!
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Real fresh, great guitarplaying :D Only 2 songs heard so far
You are in for a treat Ingrid ;D
Trust me I won't Spoil it but Mark is sounding much better on this tour!!!!!
Am not sure whether it is the quality of the recording but I am struggling at the minute with the vocals, 'guitarwork' and the whole dynamics of the performance. It is reminiscent of the early shows on the ATRR tour where things didn't seem quite right until the band had a few performances behind them.
I must reiterate though it could be the quality of the recording (and I am sure the show sounded much better) as it is audience and the sound is not that good - it is particularly heavy on the bass and the vocals don't come through very well.
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Real fresh, great guitarplaying :D Only 2 songs heard so far
You are in for a treat Ingrid ;D
Trust me I won't Spoil it but Mark is sounding much better on this tour!!!!!
Am not sure whether it is the quality of the recording but I am struggling at the minute with the vocals, 'guitarwork' and the whole dynamics of the performance. It is reminiscent of the early shows on the ATRR tour where things didn't seem quite right until the band had a few performances behind them.
I must reiterate though it could be the quality of the recording (and I am sure the show sounded much better) as it is audience and the sound is not that good - it is particularly heavy on the bass and the vocals don't come through very well.
Yeah sorry I agree about the vocals, although that's definitely the recording.
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Acording the recordings and some Guy comments, they are having issues with bass sound, maybe it
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Acording the recordings and some Guy comments, they are having issues with bass sound, maybe it
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Acording the recordings and some Guy comments, they are having issues with bass sound, maybe it
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Why a multi-million pound tour has sound problems is way beyond me. yet time and again we read about it or even worse, hear it!
And any attempt at an excuse is basically workmen blaming their tools. I don't mean simply the band I mean all concerned with the acoustics, sound checks, equipment etc.
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Why a multi-million pound tour has sound problems is way beyond me. yet time and again we read about it or even worse, hear it!
And any attempt at an excuse is basically workmen blaming their tools. I don't mean simply the band I mean all concerned with the acoustics, sound checks, equipment etc.
What you are saying is quite absurd..
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Why a multi-million pound tour has sound problems is way beyond me. yet time and again we read about it or even worse, hear it!
And any attempt at an excuse is basically workmen blaming their tools. I don't mean simply the band I mean all concerned with the acoustics, sound checks, equipment etc.
What you are saying is quite absurd..
Not really. We are in the 21st century and we have never had better or more reliable equipment. The venues are not new - some have existed for decades. Their acoustics haven't changed. Yet there are (or were) problems with the bass sound. That is what is absurd. It doesn't matter what the cause was or who is to 'blame' - it simply shouldn't happen and if anyone thinks is it acceptable that is fine - I don't.
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Well, I did wonder what that sound at the beginning of STP was. I thought I had messed up my recording. I've been trying to fix the bass before uploading. It's really overwhelming. Maybe it wasn't my fault afterall. The sound from 2010 04 17 Los Angeles sounds really clear and bright though.
http://www.dimeadozen.org/account-login.php?returnto=torrents-details.php%3Fid%3D299838%26hit%3D1
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Why a multi-million pound tour has sound problems is way beyond me. yet time and again we read about it or even worse, hear it!
And any attempt at an excuse is basically workmen blaming their tools. I don't mean simply the band I mean all concerned with the acoustics, sound checks, equipment etc.
What you are saying is quite absurd..
Not really. We are in the 21st century and we have never had better or more reliable equipment. The venues are not new - some have existed for decades. Their acoustics haven't changed. Yet there are (or were) problems with the bass sound. That is what is absurd. It doesn't matter what the cause was or who is to 'blame' - it simply shouldn't happen and if anyone thinks is it acceptable that is fine - I don't.
The sound is going to vary from venue to venue no matter what technology is used or who is mixing the sound. That said, personally, I think the person behind the board (FOH sound engineer) has a lot to do with the sound quality, as I've seen two (non MK) bands play in the same venue a few months apart with different levels of sound quality. Standing in the same spot, one was definitely better than the other, and both were loud rock shows.
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Well, I did wonder what that sound at the beginning of STP was. I thought I had messed up my recording. I've been trying to fix the bass before uploading. It's really overwhelming. Maybe it wasn't my fault afterall. The sound from 2010 04 17 Los Angeles sounds really clear and bright though.
http://www.dimeadozen.org/account-login.php?returnto=torrents-details.php%3Fid%3D299838%26hit%3D1
But it lacks from bass sound, that is something that the Eugene and Oackland recordings are plenty...
errrr, wait, I think you are talking about your own recordings, and not the ones that are available for download right now, isn
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Why a multi-million pound tour has sound problems is way beyond me. yet time and again we read about it or even worse, hear it!
And any attempt at an excuse is basically workmen blaming their tools. I don't mean simply the band I mean all concerned with the acoustics, sound checks, equipment etc.
What you are saying is quite absurd..
Not really. We are in the 21st century and we have never had better or more reliable equipment. The venues are not new - some have existed for decades. Their acoustics haven't changed. Yet there are (or were) problems with the bass sound. That is what is absurd. It doesn't matter what the cause was or who is to 'blame' - it simply shouldn't happen and if anyone thinks is it acceptable that is fine - I don't.
The sound is going to vary from venue to venue no matter what technology is used or who is mixing the sound. That said, personally, I think the person behind the board (FOH sound engineer) has a lot to do with the sound quality, as I've seen two (non MK) bands play in the same venue a few months apart with different levels of sound quality. Standing in the same spot, one was definitely better than the other, and both were loud rock shows.
Exactly. The century or money doesn't matter. It's all about sound waves, and the sound doesn't get better than the room allows.
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Exactly. The century or money doesn't matter. It's all about sound waves, and the sound doesn't get better than the room allows.
That
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There is no excuse for poor sound at these venues - these guys have the choice of equipment at their fingertips - I just don't know what gives. Soundchecks should help iron this out - are we to believe that this is the same sound that is witnessed and accepted at the soundchecks? I would like to know what Mk thinks of the sound - would he accept it if he knew? I think not.
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Sorry, just read most of this thread: It seems there is bad sound on this tour? Any proof or reference for this? All reviews I read so far and most of Isaac's blog aren't mentioning any bad sound? Some bass issues, yes, but bad sound over all?
Could you enlighten me?
LE
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Sorry, just read most of this thread: It seems there is bad sound on this tour? Any proof or reference for this? All reviews I read so far and most of Isaac's blog aren't mentioning any bad sound? Some bass issues, yes, but bad sound over all?
Could you enlighten me?
LE
No, not true I think... The bootlegs sounds fantastic! :o
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Sorry, just read most of this thread: It seems there is bad sound on this tour? Any proof or reference for this? All reviews I read so far and most of Isaac's blog aren't mentioning any bad sound? Some bass issues, yes, but bad sound over all?
Could you enlighten me?
LE
No, not true I think... The bootlegs sounds fantastic! :o
No, no proof of bad sound at all!! :o All reports talk about great sound. :D I don't understand this discussion at all, even though I seem to be a part of it :) I'm just talking about sound in general, which I happen do know a lot about.
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Sorry, just read most of this thread: It seems there is bad sound on this tour? Any proof or reference for this? All reviews I read so far and most of Isaac's blog aren't mentioning any bad sound? Some bass issues, yes, but bad sound over all?
Could you enlighten me?
LE
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I attended 3 shows. Oakland, Santa Rosa, and Temecula.
Oakland I was on the balcony 5 rows away. Quie a big venue compare to Santa Rosa and Temecula. The sound was perfect. Mark vocal came in nice and clear. The same goes to Santa Rosa and Temecula. Row E and C . Sound came in perfectly in my ears. But who am I to say, I'm neither a sound expert nor a musician for me to distingish the difference. I 'm totally mesmerized by Mark and the band to notice anything. everything was wonderful for me including staging lighting.
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It has been reported by Guy that there are/were issues with the bass sound - and if you listen to the Eugene bootleg it is very noticeable. Also the vocals aren't very high in the mix on some tracks but this could be the recording equipment.
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And is it me or does the drumming of DC sound less powerful during Speedway at Eugene than it used to be?
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what i do hear is that my favorite guitar song from last tour is great on every show!
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what i do hear is that my favorite guitar song from last tour is great on every show!
Speedway!
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Nope, i meant another song, before speedway
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SPOILER alert!
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Sorry. It's so easy to just forget oneself. I think at least one of these was more than expected anyway. :-[
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Sure, no problem for me as I'm on the darker side! :P
And you're right, these songs are to be expected.
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Yeah yeah, make fun of me... >:( ;D
Well since it seems like I was the only one on the dark side, it doesn't matter anymore anyway I guess :P
I have a general question, just listened to some live songs... So... Spoiler (just in case)
What's up with SOS? Is it the new Walk Of Life? Is it just me or is it getting slower and slower with every tour?
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Yeah yeah, make fun of me... >:( ;D
Well since it seems like I was the only one on the dark side, it doesn't matter anymore anyway I guess :P
I have a general question, just listened to some live songs... So... Spoiler (just in case)
What's up with SOS? Is it the new Walk Of Life? Is it just me or is it getting slower and slower with every tour?
Maybe it's just that the rest of the show is more uptempo that it makes it sound slower? ; ;) ;D
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Yeah yeah, make fun of me... >:( ;D
Well since it seems like I was the only one on the dark side, it doesn't matter anymore anyway I guess :P
I have a general question, just listened to some live songs... So... Spoiler (just in case)
What's up with SOS? Is it the new Walk Of Life? Is it just me or is it getting slower and slower with every tour?
No, listen to Sultans, 16 april Los Angeles, it's on the tracker. Really nice version! :D
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My opinion too, SOS is going slower every tour. :(
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Maybe to allow MK to still do the fast 'fiddly' bits in the end solo.
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Maybe to allow MK to still do the fast 'fiddly' bits in the end solo.
Maybe, but if he does a mistake it's surely more noticable? He mucked it up at the Mandela concert but it didn't sound too bad because it was faster and he improvised a little too in part of it.
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Most of the bad sound in Santa Rosa came from the woman who must have had a sore throat after all those screams during the concert, and from the woman who sat next to me who had to announce the name of every song in the first few notes. She stopped after she announced Speedway as TR, then commented, Oh, I got it wrong. :lol
Bass was heavy for me. It seemed that on Get Lucky, all of a sudden heavy reverberation was added. But I'm not complaining about the sound. The lovely ladies are distracting on my recording and I wish I had a way to reduce the reverberation, but that's what you get in an indoor hall.
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Maybe to allow MK to still do the fast 'fiddly' bits in the end solo.
Maybe, but if he does a mistake it's surely more noticable? He mucked it up at the Mandela concert but it didn't sound too bad because it was faster and he improvised a little too in part of it.
He mucked it up? Where exactly? I always thought that version awesome...
LE
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Maybe to allow MK to still do the fast 'fiddly' bits in the end solo.
Maybe, but if he does a mistake it's surely more noticable? He mucked it up at the Mandela concert but it didn't sound too bad because it was faster and he improvised a little too in part of it.
I think I'll have to listen to Mandela again, because I have always had the impression that that was the slowest Sultans ever (but cool). And this tours version sounds a bit like the Mandela one, to my ears. (Can't remember any mistakes at the Mandela though...).
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Maybe, but if he does a mistake it's surely more noticable? He mucked it up at the Mandela concert but it didn't sound too bad because it was faster and he improvised a little too in part of it.
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He mucked it up? Where exactly? I always thought that version awesome...
LE
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Sorry to spoil it for you then. It was at the so-called "fiddly-bits," about 5 seconds into it he played a wrong note then about 10 seconds through he took a very brief pause and played the 2nd half of it slightly faster. You can tell MK was angry with himself because of the way he "slams" [not literally] the strings of his guitar just after it! ;D
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Ah, thanks!
No problem ;), in the meantime he delivered so many really "mucked up" versions in the last 5 to 10 years that I can still live with this one.
Will give it a new try tonight and see if I find it!
LE
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"HFB" and "speedway" for me from all 3 shows I attended.
Just truly and incredibly amazing. Take a listen to them Oakland, Santa Rosa and Temecula.
Especially when the spot light was on Richard when he basically ripped the guitar of his IMO to pieces during the solo.
Richard is an amazing musician too. I can close my eyes and relieve that magical moment when Richard effortlessly hit those strings. I literally became one with the music. I shook my head so hard I'm surprised it's still attached to my shoulders. And my voice is pretty much hoarse from all the screaming.
Any info about Mike? My friend is ready to leave her husband and marry him . LOL He plays IMO a very important role during this tour. Amazing sounds he creates. It just literally melts your heart.
Hope you guys enjoy the Temecula recording from me. Too bad I lost the end of it. I was rushing out to the front.
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Thanks Sweetsurrender, the Temecula recording sounds like it was a really great concert. Was that you screaming between tracks btw you maddy? ;)
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Ummmm ;)
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Hmm, I'm listening to "What It Is" now on youtube, apparently from the Oakland show. Nice to hear he plays the first solo again (before "It's a chinking light, it's a burning wick...")!! Let's just hope it'll stay this way. And this is another song that seems to get slower and s-l-o-w-e-r with every tour...
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I haven't noticed. I always enjoy WII! :D
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I haven't noticed. I always enjoy WII! :D
Me too, after all, that's the song that started my obsession ;D
I just prefer it a little faster...
Mark omitted the first solo after a couple of shows back in 2008, and when asked why he did, Guy answered, it works better that way. I tend to disagree...
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I like the longer version too. I think they just test things now and again to decide which works best. Hopefully it will stay for the rest of the tour. :)
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I like the longer version too. I think they just test things now and again to decide which works best. Hopefully it will stay for the rest of the tour. :)
16 april:
At that show he mucked up What it is... He 'forgets' playing the solo while the band are begin to play that solo I think... Strange part, go listen and tell me if I'm right... :P
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Ah, thanks!
No problem ;), in the meantime he delivered so many really "mucked up" versions in the last 5 to 10 years that I can still live with this one.
Will give it a new try tonight and see if I find it!
LE
I can't find it :P ??? It's for me still the best SOS version I ever heard :D
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I like the longer version too. I think they just test things now and again to decide which works best. Hopefully it will stay for the rest of the tour. :)
16 april:
At that show he mucked up What it is... He 'forgets' playing the solo while the band are begin to play that solo I think... Strange part, go listen and tell me if I'm right... :P
I think they lost their way in the middle a bit! ;D
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My guess is that they omitted the first What It Is solo in 2008 because Mark found it difficult to play. Not many fast licks were played on that tour. I'm glad that it's back.
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If Guy thought it was best played without the middle solo, then presumably he thinks they are playing the song more poorly on this tour then. ;D
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In my humble opinion, they never played a proper version of What it is live :(
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In my humble opinion, they never played a proper version of What it is live :(
I agree. I've often thought MK found the lyrics difficult to sing whilst playing the guitar and so they slowed it down and also his guitar playing while singing is very weak lacking power. In fairness the lyrics are particularly complicated and sung fast in this song.
However, I listened to the Denver version last night and it's good. If only the guitar sound when he was singing was more powerful.
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In my humble opinion, they never played a proper version of What it is live :(
I agree. I've often thought MK found the lyrics difficult to sing whilst playing the guitar and so they slowed it down and also his guitar playing while singing is very weak lacking power. In fairness the lyrics are particularly complicated and sung fast in this song.
However, I listened to the Denver version last night and it's good. If only the guitar sound when he was singing was more powerful.
I like the idea of Mark finding it difficult to sing and play his own songs live. doesn't make us mere mortals feel so bad when our efforts fall apart :)
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While I agree that What It Is lacks some punch as compared to the album version, I've always thought that Mark's playing is really strong live on this one.
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While I agree that What It Is lacks some punch as compared to the album version, I've always thought that Mark's playing is really strong live on this one.
Oh, I only meant his guitar playing while he is singing; it is almost inaudible! Richard's acoustic is louder!
He doesn't often get the the lyrics mixed up but he has on this song many times which is why he has to concentrate more on the lyrics than on the guitar I think. The solo's are fine though.
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In my humble opinion, they never played a proper version of What it is live :(
I haven't heard all the live versions ever played (not even a fraction of the ones that are available on bootlegs) but I tend to agree with you, the album version is awesome!
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I have to agree that the version of SOS from the 16th, is probably one of the best i've heard from the last few tours. Sure hope he plays it like that when i see him in London.
He seems to have found some passion and meaning in the song again. Cos it seemed to have lacked something over the last couple of tours.
Cheers BBB
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My guess is that they omitted the first What It Is solo in 2008 because Mark found it difficult to play.
No, I don't think so at all. If that was the case, he would just have played it differently.
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My guess is that they omitted the first What It Is solo in 2008 because Mark found it difficult to play.
No, I don't think so at all. If that was the case, he would just have played it differently.
It's possible, that's what he did on many other songs. But still, on that tour nearly all of the fast licks disappeared and it was no coincidence.
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My guess is that they omitted the first What It Is solo in 2008 because Mark found it difficult to play.
No, I don't think so at all. If that was the case, he would just have played it differently.
It's possible, that's what he did on many other songs. But still, on that tour nearly all of the fast licks disappeared and it was no coincidence.
And it seems to be the same on this tour, or not? Really strange... And I remember MK using some white powder (Chalk? Magnesium?) for his hands in 2008...
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He is 60 now, I can imagine that.
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My guess is that they omitted the first What It Is solo in 2008 because Mark found it difficult to play.
No, I don't think so at all. If that was the case, he would just have played it differently.
It's possible, that's what he did on many other songs. But still, on that tour nearly all of the fast licks disappeared and it was no coincidence.
And it seems to be the same on this tour, or not? Really strange... And I remember MK using some white powder (Chalk? Magnesium?) for his hands in 2008...
Well, the What It Is solo is back and so are some of the fast licks from Sultans. He may be struggling but I'm sure he'll get there if he keeps playing these demanding parts every night.
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est il possible d'avoir une version FLAC de EUGENE 11/04/10 remasterisee disponible sur MKLIVE? ???
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est il possible d'avoir une version FLAC de EUGENE 11/04/10 remasterisee disponible sur MKLIVE? ???
There are 2 different recordings available and both have very good sound in my opinion.
http://tracker.knopflertk.net/torrents-details.php?id=1871
http://tracker.knopflertk.net/torrents-details.php?id=1872
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oui mais la version remasterisee du MKLIVE a pour moi un meilleur son que les deux versions de
LA KNOPFLERTK ;)
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oui mais la version remasterisee du MKLIVE a pour moi un meilleur son que les deux versions de
LA KNOPFLERTK ;)
I have version 1 and it is good to my ears but that is just a personal opinion. Perhaps you find the venue acoustics not so good?
I can only suggest you invest in a program like Steinberg Wavelab that I use to remaster my bootlegs that are of poor sound. :-\