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Title: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 05, 2025, 07:51:36 PM
Dire Straits Legacy is coming to Brazil later this year and once again the promotion sells it as the real band. It’s disgusting. And don’t tell me the band doesn’t know, it’s their responsibility too. I’ve tagged both Paul Crockford and Guy Fletcher on Instagram, I hope they see it. Whoever is in charge of their management is a criminal.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVmJ8msr5v/?igsh=MTlod2JwOHB3b2h1YQ==
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: cannibals on August 05, 2025, 08:06:28 PM
If you buy tickets and think you'll get to see DS with MK then there is really something wrong 🤣.
They disbanded 30 years ago.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 05, 2025, 08:15:53 PM
If you buy tickets and think you'll get to see DS with MK then there is really something wrong 🤣.
They disbanded 30 years ago.

No, people think it’s a new lineup
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: rmarques821 on August 05, 2025, 09:22:34 PM
Dire Straits Legacy is coming to Brazil later this year and once again the promotion sells it as the real band. It’s disgusting. And don’t tell me the band doesn’t know, it’s their responsibility too. I’ve tagged both Paul Crockford and Guy Fletcher on Instagram, I hope they see it. Whoever is in charge of their management is a criminal.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVmJ8msr5v/?igsh=MTlod2JwOHB3b2h1YQ==
Truly disgusting.
I've had a discussion here about this before, anyway. As long as the cow keeps giving milk, these con artists will keep doing it.
Or until Mark or someone from his management is finally bothered to take legal action.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: rmarques821 on August 05, 2025, 09:28:38 PM
If you buy tickets and think you'll get to see DS with MK then there is really something wrong 🤣.
They disbanded 30 years ago.
I know of a person who went to one of these concerts because he thought it was a reunion and became disappointed when he realized it was just a tribute thing. People are naive/uninformed and they are misled into buying tickets because the band promotes itself as the real thing.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: fan no more on August 05, 2025, 10:58:36 PM
Dire Straits Legacy is coming to Brazil later this year and once again the promotion sells it as the real band. It’s disgusting. And don’t tell me the band doesn’t know, it’s their responsibility too. I’ve tagged both Paul Crockford and Guy Fletcher on Instagram, I hope they see it. Whoever is in charge of their management is a criminal.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVmJ8msr5v/?igsh=MTlod2JwOHB3b2h1YQ==

OK, so the Google translation of that Insta post is as follows:

Get ready, because on November 15, 2025, Dire Straits Legacy will be arriving in Macaé for a show that promises to go down in history! 🎸🤘🎸

For the first time, former members of the legendary band Dire Straits will take the stage at the Ginásio Municipal Engenheiro Maurício Soares Bittencourt, performing classics like Sultans of Swing, Money for Nothing, and Walk of Life!

The performance is part of the South America Tour 2025, and Macaé is officially on the map for major international concerts. Pretty fancy, right?


Sounds pretty unambiguous to me.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: diremania on August 05, 2025, 11:50:14 PM
 Not sure if I understand the problem here. When I read the translation, everything looks correct to me, in the description. Former ds members has formed a ds tribute band. Not stating anything or even mention MK..? Perhaps there is more in the description than in the translation. ?
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 01:28:16 AM
I'll leave the link to the website selling tickets for the DSL 2025 shows here in Brazil for anyone who wants to check it out. Just use the translator and anyone will see that they're not scamming anyone.

https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-quado listing-rj#:~:te gentext=Aclamada%20por%20reviver%20com%20autenticidade,de%20Janeiro%20ser%C3%A1%20no%20Qualistage. (https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-quado listing-rj#:~:te gentext=Aclamada%20por%20reviver%20com%20autenticidade,de%20Janeiro%20ser%C3%A1%20no%20Qualistage.)

Here's another link to a Brazilian page where it's clearly stated that it's a band with former DS members.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingstone.com.br/amp/musica/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-show-em-sao-paulo-data-ingressos-e-mais/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingstone.com.br/amp/musica/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-show-em-sao-paulo-data-ingressos-e-mais/)

I myself attended DSL's performance in Brazil twice, in 2017 and 2019, and I didn't see anyone feeling cheated. I saw happy people celebrating DSL's music through a tribute band with former members.

The lie is happening elsewhere, I can guarantee that. If necessary, I'll reveal it.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 03:34:29 AM
Dire Straits Legacy is coming to Brazil later this year and once again the promotion sells it as the real band. It’s disgusting. And don’t tell me the band doesn’t know, it’s their responsibility too. I’ve tagged both Paul Crockford and Guy Fletcher on Instagram, I hope they see it. Whoever is in charge of their management is a criminal.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVmJ8msr5v/?igsh=MTlod2JwOHB3b2h1YQ==

OK, so the Google translation of that Insta post is as follows:

Get ready, because on November 15, 2025, Dire Straits Legacy will be arriving in Macaé for a show that promises to go down in history! 🎸🤘🎸

For the first time, former members of the legendary band Dire Straits will take the stage at the Ginásio Municipal Engenheiro Maurício Soares Bittencourt, performing classics like Sultans of Swing, Money for Nothing, and Walk of Life!

The performance is part of the South America Tour 2025, and Macaé is officially on the map for major international concerts. Pretty fancy, right?


Sounds pretty unambiguous to me.

The voice says Dire Straits for the first time in Macae. The comments say it all, people are confused.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 03:38:18 AM
I'll leave the link to the website selling tickets for the DSL 2025 shows here in Brazil for anyone who wants to check it out. Just use the translator and anyone will see that they're not scamming anyone.

https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-quado listing-rj#:~:te gentext=Aclamada%20por%20reviver%20com%20autenticidade,de%20Janeiro%20ser%C3%A1%20no%20Qualistage. (https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-quado listing-rj#:~:te gentext=Aclamada%20por%20reviver%20com%20autenticidade,de%20Janeiro%20ser%C3%A1%20no%20Qualistage.)

Here's another link to a Brazilian page where it's clearly stated that it's a band with former DS members.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingstone.com.br/amp/musica/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-show-em-sao-paulo-data-ingressos-e-mais/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingstone.com.br/amp/musica/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-show-em-sao-paulo-data-ingressos-e-mais/)

I myself attended DSL's performance in Brazil twice, in 2017 and 2019, and I didn't see anyone feeling cheated. I saw happy people celebrating DSL's music through a tribute band with former members.

The lie is happening elsewhere, I can guarantee that. If necessary, I'll reveal it.

You speak Portuguese, don’t you? It’s said out loud, Dire Straits, for the first time… the band can’t turn a blind eye and pretend they don’t know what’s happening.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 03:49:54 AM
Did you get free tickets, Brunno? Are you friends with the band? I remember very very clearly back then several posts on Facebook with people saying they’d been to a Dire Straits gig. Casual concert goers have no clue who Mark Knopfler is, of course they didn’t ’feel cheated’, right? It’s mind boggling that you, a native speaker, chose to pretend the voice over doesn’t say it’s a Dire Straits show first and only later on says Dire Straits Legacy but pronouncing Legacy very quietly. But if there’s somebody else lying please be my guest and spill the beans, no need to hide the truth.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 03:58:25 AM
As for the links, here’s what the Rolling Stone article says:

‘Dire Straits Legacy anuncia show em São Paulo; data, ingressos e mais
Continuação da banda responsável por hits como "Sultans of Swing" traz músicos de diferentes fases do grupo para apresentação em novembro’

Continuation of the band… yeah, sounds very faithful to the true story doesn’t it.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 04:10:01 AM
The art says ‘Dire Straits in Macaé. One of the greatest bands on the planet in an epic concert in Macaé’

I think it’s pretty clear they’re being purposefully dubious in order to trick people into believing it’s the real deal. But yeah, nothing to se there I guess.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMQLkawu4V1/?igsh=ZHQ4cXVmZmhid254
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: fan no more on August 06, 2025, 08:34:58 AM
Yeah, that sounds iffy.

Off topic, but I just had a listen to fairly recent YT clip of DSL, and I had forgotten how terrible Marco is as a singer and frontman. And the thick Italian accent does not help. It sounds like bad karaoke.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Chris W on August 06, 2025, 08:44:44 AM
In the Instagram post (linked to), the name Dire Straits flashes up, no 'legacy'.
A few of the European tribute bands have promoted 'Dire Straits' with the name of their band in much smaller writing.
I think there are so many of these bands that a type of promotion war is going on.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Pottel on August 06, 2025, 08:45:43 AM
it surely is not illegal, but also surely is a bit....dodgy. the promoter(s) knew very well what they were doing.
but on the other hand, people need to pay a little attention before buying tickets
i always learned, if something is too good to be true, it will almost always, not be true
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: rmarques821 on August 06, 2025, 09:35:42 AM
it surely is not illegal, but also surely is a bit....dodgy. the promoter(s) knew very well what they were doing.
but on the other hand, people need to pay a little attention before buying tickets
i always learned, if something is too good to be true, it will almost always, not be true
Yes, it is illegal. Believe it or not, Dire Straits as a company is still active and registered in the UK, with Mark and John as incorporated officers.
It would be like you making a homemade Coca Cola drink and selling it as the real thing.

At the end of the day these guys will keep doing anything they can to squeeze a buck out of poor gullible people and the poor gullible people will be happy to hear " the World's Greatest Authority on Mark Knopfler trademark playing", or whatever vomit-inducing thing he calls himself.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 06, 2025, 10:01:34 AM
Yeah, that sounds iffy.

Off topic, but I just had a listen to fairly recent YT clip of DSL, and I had forgotten how terrible Marco is as a singer and frontman. And the thick Italian accent does not help. It sounds like bad karaoke.

Truth.

As for the marketing, they will just blame the local promoters as they always have.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: peterromer on August 06, 2025, 10:31:21 AM
I also translated the link and it clearly states DSL and Legacy.
I cannot see a huge problem here. Of course if there is a voice over stating DS it is an error that can be corrected.
But come on, they are great musicians that I personally would hope could come to Denmark one day.
Remember that MK earns money out of it, and they clearly fulfil a demand. 

 
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: ds1984 on August 06, 2025, 02:03:12 PM
it surely is not illegal, but also surely is a bit....dodgy. the promoter(s) knew very well what they were doing.
but on the other hand, people need to pay a little attention before buying tickets
i always learned, if something is too good to be true, it will almost always, not be true

You are saying this but you are already a well informed fan.

For a casual person a Dire Straits reunion would not be something of "too good to be true" category.

The core question is are they enough confusing to make people thinking they will attend a real Dire Straits show?



Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 02:08:49 PM
I'll leave the link to the website selling tickets for the DSL 2025 shows here in Brazil for anyone who wants to check it out. Just use the translator and anyone will see that they're not scamming anyone.

https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-quado listing-rj#:~:te gentext=Aclamada%20por%20reviver%20com%20autenticidade,de%20Janeiro%20ser%C3%A1%20no%20Qualistage. (https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-quado listing-rj#:~:te gentext=Aclamada%20por%20reviver%20com%20autenticidade,de%20Janeiro%20ser%C3%A1%20no%20Qualistage.)

Here's another link to a Brazilian page where it's clearly stated that it's a band with former DS members.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingstone.com.br/amp/musica/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-show-em-sao-paulo-data-ingressos-e-mais/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/rollingstone.com.br/amp/musica/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-show-em-sao-paulo-data-ingressos-e-mais/)

I myself attended DSL's performance in Brazil twice, in 2017 and 2019, and I didn't see anyone feeling cheated. I saw happy people celebrating DSL's music through a tribute band with former members.

The lie is happening elsewhere, I can guarantee that. If necessary, I'll reveal it.

You speak Portuguese, don’t you? It’s said out loud, Dire Straits, for the first time… the band can’t turn a blind eye and pretend they don’t know what’s happening.


It's mentioned:

"Acclaimed for authentically reviving and keeping the Dire Straits legacy alive, Dire Straits Legacy returns to Brazil for a series of performances. The Rio de Janeiro show will be at Qualistage.

With musicians from different phases of Dire Straits' career and a sound faithful to the legendary British band's roots, DSL promises to thrill fans of all generations. "Money for Nothing," "So Far Away," "Sultans of Swing," "Walk of Life," "Romeo and Juliet," and many other memorable songs performed live by Alan Clark (keyboards), Phil Palmer (guitar), Mel Collins (sax), Marco Caviglia (vocals and guitar), Danny Cummings (percussion and vocals), and Steve Walters (bass)."

Is it different from any Dire Straits tribute band in Europe? At no point is this being sold as the authentic Dire Straits. If anyone is fooled into thinking this is Dire Straits (without Mark Knopfler), they should be praying for tires. I think Eddie Fox knows exactly what I'm talking about. Do you think I need to explain?

Your task is quite complicated, as you would have to report countless tribute and cover bands that advertise their projects in a similar way. Go ahead and good luck, just go easy on the delirium. The AMIT forum is not Flat Earth, and you better remember that.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 02:16:49 PM
Dire Straits Legacy is coming to Brazil later this year and once again the promotion sells it as the real band. It’s disgusting. And don’t tell me the band doesn’t know, it’s their responsibility too. I’ve tagged both Paul Crockford and Guy Fletcher on Instagram, I hope they see it. Whoever is in charge of their management is a criminal.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMVmJ8msr5v/?igsh=MTlod2JwOHB3b2h1YQ==


This Instagram account link is from a regional news site in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It has no connection whatsoever with the band DSL. If the media is reporting it this way, it's not the band's fault. You should expose the real culprits instead of distorting the facts and misleading non-Portuguese speakers into believing the band is promoting it this way. This is unethical.

Here's the news site for the Instagram account he posted here in the thread.

https://rjinterior.com.br/
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Robson on August 06, 2025, 02:38:25 PM
We don't know what Mark thinks about this. What's his stance? Maybe he doesn't care. But he definitely knows Dammy Cummings is in this band ;)
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 03:08:29 PM
Did you get free tickets, Brunno? Are you friends with the band? I remember very very clearly back then several posts on Facebook with people saying they’d been to a Dire Straits gig. Casual concert goers have no clue who Mark Knopfler is, of course they didn’t ’feel cheated’, right? It’s mind boggling that you, a native speaker, chose to pretend the voice over doesn’t say it’s a Dire Straits show first and only later on says Dire Straits Legacy but pronouncing Legacy very quietly. But if there’s somebody else lying please be my guest and spill the beans, no need to hide the truth.


I'm not friends with the band, because if I were, I'd probably go to their house, have coffee, and chat... that's not the case. I work and have the money to buy tickets to every show I've had the opportunity to go to. Seeing Tunnel of Love, TR, RJ, PI... performed by Alan Clark was worth every penny I spent on travel and tickets, even if I had won a ticket, that would be my merit. I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet the band members, and it was an honor to meet Alan Clark, Jack Sonni, Mel Collins, Phil Palmer, and Danny.

I'm not at all surprised that you want to attribute to the band something that's being done by a local media outlet in Rio de Janeiro, without the participation or even the consent of the band DSL. And worse, you're doing exactly what the news site does: misleading people. The only thing that needs to be reported is this Instagram account that's a regional news site from a city in Rio de Janeiro.

What you're doing in this thread is something you do very well in Brazil: promoting fake news. I repeat, the AMIT forum is not a flat Earth. If you do your part, I'll provide some useful links that will reveal the legacy of a troubled old fox.

Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 03:46:34 PM
Did you get free tickets, Brunno? Are you friends with the band? I remember very very clearly back then several posts on Facebook with people saying they’d been to a Dire Straits gig. Casual concert goers have no clue who Mark Knopfler is, of course they didn’t ’feel cheated’, right? It’s mind boggling that you, a native speaker, chose to pretend the voice over doesn’t say it’s a Dire Straits show first and only later on says Dire Straits Legacy but pronouncing Legacy very quietly. But if there’s somebody else lying please be my guest and spill the beans, no need to hide the truth.


I'm not friends with the band, because if I were, I'd probably go to their house, have coffee, and chat... that's not the case. I work and have the money to buy tickets to every show I've had the opportunity to go to, including Tunnel of Love, TR, RJ, PI... with Alan Clark playing. For me, it was worth every penny I spent on travel and tickets. Even if I had won a ticket, that would be my merit. I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet the band members, and it was an honor to meet Alan Clark, Jack Sonni, Mel Collins, Phil Palmer, and Danny.

I'm not at all surprised that you want to attribute to the band something that's being done by a local media outlet in Rio de Janeiro, without the participation or even the consent of the band DSL. And worse, you're doing exactly what the news site does: misleading people. The only thing that needs to be reported is this Instagram account that's a regional news site from a city in Rio de Janeiro.

What you're doing in this thread is something you do very well in Brazil: promoting fake news. I repeat, the AMIT forum is not a flat Earth. If you do your part, I'll provide some useful links that will reveal the legacy of a troubled old fox.

Does it have anything to do with DS/MK, Brunno? If it does, please, be my guest.

That being said, and you’d know that if you had been a musician, any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation. That’s how the real world works.

Now I’ll give you a little piece of advice. Don’t make it personal bringing on political stuff from my personal and professional life as you sneakily hinted. If you don’t have the argument to win a debate within the obvious boundaries of this forum, meaning DS/MK, just rest your case and play cool.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 04:08:22 PM
it surely is not illegal, but also surely is a bit....dodgy. the promoter(s) knew very well what they were doing.
but on the other hand, people need to pay a little attention before buying tickets
i always learned, if something is too good to be true, it will almost always, not be true

You are saying this but you are already a well informed fan.

For a casual person a Dire Straits reunion would not be something of "too good to be true" category.

The core question is are they enough confusing to make people thinking they will attend a real Dire Straits show?

Exactly my point. In Brazil the Dire Straits brand is quite big but very few people outside the fan base know who Mark Knopfler is, let alone John Illsley or who owns the rights to the brand. They know the music and that’s it. I dare say 90% of the casual concert goers are not fluent in English and will never notice Marco’s thick accent.

You HAVE to make it crystal clear from the get go it’s a tribute band. As I said in a previous comment, when these guys came to Brazil a few years back I saw dozens of people posting clips on social media saying in good faith they’d been to a Dire Straits show. They probably still think they did to this day.

You gotta do the right thing, always. Sell what you have, in this case a pretty good product, the chance to see a piece of history, some great musicians (Marco not included, he sucks) playing awesome songs. No excuses for sophisms.

Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 04:44:23 PM
Did you get free tickets, Brunno? Are you friends with the band? I remember very very clearly back then several posts on Facebook with people saying they’d been to a Dire Straits gig. Casual concert goers have no clue who Mark Knopfler is, of course they didn’t ’feel cheated’, right? It’s mind boggling that you, a native speaker, chose to pretend the voice over doesn’t say it’s a Dire Straits show first and only later on says Dire Straits Legacy but pronouncing Legacy very quietly. But if there’s somebody else lying please be my guest and spill the beans, no need to hide the truth.


I'm not friends with the band, because if I were, I'd probably go to their house, have coffee, and chat... that's not the case. I work and have the money to buy tickets to every show I've had the opportunity to go to, including Tunnel of Love, TR, RJ, PI... with Alan Clark playing. For me, it was worth every penny I spent on travel and tickets. Even if I had won a ticket, that would be my merit. I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet the band members, and it was an honor to meet Alan Clark, Jack Sonni, Mel Collins, Phil Palmer, and Danny.

I'm not at all surprised that you want to attribute to the band something that's being done by a local media outlet in Rio de Janeiro, without the participation or even the consent of the band DSL. And worse, you're doing exactly what the news site does: misleading people. The only thing that needs to be reported is this Instagram account that's a regional news site from a city in Rio de Janeiro.

What you're doing in this thread is something you do very well in Brazil: promoting fake news. I repeat, the AMIT forum is not a flat Earth. If you do your part, I'll provide some useful links that will reveal the legacy of a troubled old fox.

Does it have anything to do with DS/MK, Brunno? If it does, please, be my guest.

That being said, and you’d know that if you had been a musician, any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation. That’s how the real world works.

Now I’ll give you a little piece of advice. Don’t make it personal bringing on political stuff from my personal and professional life as you sneakily hinted. If you don’t have the argument to win a debate within the obvious boundaries of this forum, meaning DS/MK, just rest your case and play cool.


Here are some useful links that show that Dire Straits legacy isn't causing this kind of problem, as Fox wanted to imply.

https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-qualistage-rj

https://www.google.com/amp/s/g1.globo.com/google/amp/mg/zona-da-mata/noticia/2025/06/11/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-data-de-show-extra-apos-sucesso-na-venda-de-ingressos-em-juiz-de-fora.ghtml

https://avozdacidade.com/wp/iniciam-neste-domingo-dia-20-as-vendas-para-show-internacional-da-dire-straits-legacy-em-barra-mansa/

https://www.dslegacy.com/dsllive-tour/#2025

Official website.

None of the websites I mentioned above have any information that this is about Dire Straits. They constantly state that it's Dire Straits Legacy, formed by former members of the band... (This is the only difference between most DS tributes, as well as the project Chris leads, Dire Straits Experience, with Terence Reis). What you've brought up here is an isolated incident, made by a single Instagram account that is advertising in a biased way, yes, but this doesn't have DSL's approval; they wouldn't be crazy enough to promote themselves this way. Now, if any media outlet is reporting incorrectly, that outlet should be held responsible, not the band.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 05:00:17 PM
Did you get free tickets, Brunno? Are you friends with the band? I remember very very clearly back then several posts on Facebook with people saying they’d been to a Dire Straits gig. Casual concert goers have no clue who Mark Knopfler is, of course they didn’t ’feel cheated’, right? It’s mind boggling that you, a native speaker, chose to pretend the voice over doesn’t say it’s a Dire Straits show first and only later on says Dire Straits Legacy but pronouncing Legacy very quietly. But if there’s somebody else lying please be my guest and spill the beans, no need to hide the truth.


I'm not friends with the band, because if I were, I'd probably go to their house, have coffee, and chat... that's not the case. I work and have the money to buy tickets to every show I've had the opportunity to go to, including Tunnel of Love, TR, RJ, PI... with Alan Clark playing. For me, it was worth every penny I spent on travel and tickets. Even if I had won a ticket, that would be my merit. I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet the band members, and it was an honor to meet Alan Clark, Jack Sonni, Mel Collins, Phil Palmer, and Danny.

I'm not at all surprised that you want to attribute to the band something that's being done by a local media outlet in Rio de Janeiro, without the participation or even the consent of the band DSL. And worse, you're doing exactly what the news site does: misleading people. The only thing that needs to be reported is this Instagram account that's a regional news site from a city in Rio de Janeiro.

What you're doing in this thread is something you do very well in Brazil: promoting fake news. I repeat, the AMIT forum is not a flat Earth. If you do your part, I'll provide some useful links that will reveal the legacy of a troubled old fox.

Does it have anything to do with DS/MK, Brunno? If it does, please, be my guest.

That being said, and you’d know that if you had been a musician, any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation. That’s how the real world works.

Now I’ll give you a little piece of advice. Don’t make it personal bringing on political stuff from my personal and professional life as you sneakily hinted. If you don’t have the argument to win a debate within the obvious boundaries of this forum, meaning DS/MK, just rest your case and play cool.


Here are some useful links that show that Dire Straits legacy isn't causing this kind of problem, as Fox wanted to imply.

https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-qualistage-rj

https://www.google.com/amp/s/g1.globo.com/google/amp/mg/zona-da-mata/noticia/2025/06/11/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-data-de-show-extra-apos-sucesso-na-venda-de-ingressos-em-juiz-de-fora.ghtml

https://avozdacidade.com/wp/iniciam-neste-domingo-dia-20-as-vendas-para-show-internacional-da-dire-straits-legacy-em-barra-mansa/

https://www.dslegacy.com/dsllive-tour/#2025

Official website.

None of the websites I mentioned above have any information that this is about Dire Straits. They constantly state that it's Dire Straits Legacy, formed by former members of the band... (This is the only difference between most DS tributes, as well as the project Chris leads, Dire Straits Experience, with Terence Reis). What you've brought up here is an isolated incident, made by a single Instagram account that is advertising in a biased way, yes, but this doesn't have DSL's approval; they wouldn't be crazy enough to promote themselves this way. Now, if any media outlet is reporting incorrectly, that outlet should be held responsible, not the band.

Thanks for posting these links, Brunno. In the G1 article they never mention it’s a tribute band. It even lists some Dire Straits songs saying ‘here’s some of THE BAND’s biggest hits’ as if the band in question, DSL, had written them.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 05:29:19 PM
Did you get free tickets, Brunno? Are you friends with the band? I remember very very clearly back then several posts on Facebook with people saying they’d been to a Dire Straits gig. Casual concert goers have no clue who Mark Knopfler is, of course they didn’t ’feel cheated’, right? It’s mind boggling that you, a native speaker, chose to pretend the voice over doesn’t say it’s a Dire Straits show first and only later on says Dire Straits Legacy but pronouncing Legacy very quietly. But if there’s somebody else lying please be my guest and spill the beans, no need to hide the truth.


I'm not friends with the band, because if I were, I'd probably go to their house, have coffee, and chat... that's not the case. I work and have the money to buy tickets to every show I've had the opportunity to go to, including Tunnel of Love, TR, RJ, PI... with Alan Clark playing. For me, it was worth every penny I spent on travel and tickets. Even if I had won a ticket, that would be my merit. I was fortunate to have had the opportunity to meet the band members, and it was an honor to meet Alan Clark, Jack Sonni, Mel Collins, Phil Palmer, and Danny.

I'm not at all surprised that you want to attribute to the band something that's being done by a local media outlet in Rio de Janeiro, without the participation or even the consent of the band DSL. And worse, you're doing exactly what the news site does: misleading people. The only thing that needs to be reported is this Instagram account that's a regional news site from a city in Rio de Janeiro.

What you're doing in this thread is something you do very well in Brazil: promoting fake news. I repeat, the AMIT forum is not a flat Earth. If you do your part, I'll provide some useful links that will reveal the legacy of a troubled old fox.

Does it have anything to do with DS/MK, Brunno? If it does, please, be my guest.

That being said, and you’d know that if you had been a musician, any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation. That’s how the real world works.

Now I’ll give you a little piece of advice. Don’t make it personal bringing on political stuff from my personal and professional life as you sneakily hinted. If you don’t have the argument to win a debate within the obvious boundaries of this forum, meaning DS/MK, just rest your case and play cool.


Here are some useful links that show that Dire Straits legacy isn't causing this kind of problem, as Fox wanted to imply.

https://www.ticketmaster.com.br/event/dire-straits-no-qualistage-rj

https://www.google.com/amp/s/g1.globo.com/google/amp/mg/zona-da-mata/noticia/2025/06/11/dire-straits-legacy-anuncia-data-de-show-extra-apos-sucesso-na-venda-de-ingressos-em-juiz-de-fora.ghtml

https://avozdacidade.com/wp/iniciam-neste-domingo-dia-20-as-vendas-para-show-internacional-da-dire-straits-legacy-em-barra-mansa/

https://www.dslegacy.com/dsllive-tour/#2025

Official website.

None of the websites I mentioned above have any information that this is about Dire Straits. They constantly state that it's Dire Straits Legacy, formed by former members of the band... (This is the only difference between most DS tributes, as well as the project Chris leads, Dire Straits Experience, with Terence Reis). What you've brought up here is an isolated incident, made by a single Instagram account that is advertising in a biased way, yes, but this doesn't have DSL's approval; they wouldn't be crazy enough to promote themselves this way. Now, if any media outlet is reporting incorrectly, that outlet should be held responsible, not the band.

Thanks for posting these links, Brunno. In the G1 article they never mention it’s a tribute band. It even lists some Dire Straits songs saying ‘here’s some of THE BAND’s biggest hits’ as if the band in question, DSL, had written them.

Oh, I thought the band I'm a fan of was called Dire Straits and that they were known worldwide, but it seems that if G1 announced a show by a band called Dire Straits Legacy and mentioning that it's made up of former members, that's not enough to know that it's a tribute band? What a joke... how many tribute bands have the name Dire something, Straits something else in their name? How are they promoting themselves? Do they sell themselves as the authentic Dire Straits? I haven't seen that happen, not even DSL. Now, if media outlets are promoting the event this way, it doesn't necessarily mean the band has anything to do with it, as you put it in this thread you created. Just to stir up controversy, congratulations, you've achieved a bit, but the big question is: Mark Knopfler must be very worried about this? Poor Mark..." 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 06, 2025, 05:40:22 PM
any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

I don't think this is true at all, especially in a foreign country, and especially for a band that isn't that popular like DSL. Taylor Swift's people can throw their weight around but not these guys.

Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

This is more likely, but I'm not sure the guys in the band would know what was going on on Brazilian Tik Tok.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 05:44:01 PM
any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

I don't think this is true at all, especially in a foreign country, and especially for a band that isn't that popular like DSL. Taylor Swift's people can throw their weight around but not these guys.

Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

This is more likely, but I'm not sure the guys in the band would know what was going on on Brazilian Tik Tok.

It’s surely on their contract. If they bother monitoring or not that’s another point. Considering they heavily benefit from the ‘ambiguity’ I don’t think they are very concerned about it.

Re Mark caring about it or not, I think a certain b-side he recorded a few years ago will give us a hint.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 05:44:41 PM
any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

I don't think this is true at all, especially in a foreign country, and especially for a band that isn't that popular like DSL. Taylor Swift's people can throw their weight around but not these guys.

Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

This is more likely, but I'm not sure the guys in the band would know what was going on on Brazilian Tik Tok.

Exactly, Dusty, good point, very realistic.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 06, 2025, 05:57:11 PM
any promo for any gig has to go through band management before being released. Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

I don't think this is true at all, especially in a foreign country, and especially for a band that isn't that popular like DSL. Taylor Swift's people can throw their weight around but not these guys.

Worst case scenario the artist is sent it once it’s published or tagged on the post and can, at any time, ask to get it removed in case of misinformation.

This is more likely, but I'm not sure the guys in the band would know what was going on on Brazilian Tik Tok.

It’s surely on their contract. If they bother monitoring or not that’s another point.

Re Mark caring about it or not, I think a certain b-side he recorded a few years ago will give us a hint.

A really cool B-side, by the way. It's a shame he only played it once, but if the intention was to send a message to DSL, the message was given and the DSL may have responded with a song. I hope Mark feels like he's being bothered again, this time with websites promoting DSL as DS, and he makes another excellent song like the one he released in 2015. I'll love hearing it. One thing's for sure: Every time tribute bands play DS songs, Mark probably makes money from it because there are certainly clauses for that, and fans of those songs who go to a DSL show can have the luxury of enjoying these songs performed by Alan Clark, an important part of DS's sound. I loved watching it myself, and I saw people really enjoying it, even those who thought they were playing Dire Straits without Mark Knopfler, well, patience. 🥱
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: cannibals on August 06, 2025, 08:54:12 PM
We don't know what Mark thinks about this. What's his stance? Maybe he doesn't care. But he definitely knows Dammy Cummings is in this band ;)
MK wrote a song about it.
Terminal of tribute to.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Robson on August 06, 2025, 09:18:01 PM
We don't know what Mark thinks about this. What's his stance? Maybe he doesn't care. But he definitely knows Dammy Cummings is in this band ;)
MK wrote a song about it.
Terminal of tribute to.

That's why I wrote about Danny Cummings, who plays in this band and also records with MK. Nothing is black and white.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: cannibals on August 06, 2025, 09:54:56 PM
We don't know what Mark thinks about this. What's his stance? Maybe he doesn't care. But he definitely knows Dammy Cummings is in this band ;)
MK wrote a song about it.
Terminal of tribute to.

That's why I wrote about Danny Cummings, who plays in this band and also records with MK. Nothing is black and white.
No it's not. I believe even John Illsley played a few gigs with them about 10 ago.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Robson on August 06, 2025, 10:14:29 PM
We don't know what Mark thinks about this. What's his stance? Maybe he doesn't care. But he definitely knows Dammy Cummings is in this band ;)
MK wrote a song about it.
Terminal of tribute to.

That's why I wrote about Danny Cummings, who plays in this band and also records with MK. Nothing is black and white.
No it's not. I believe even John Illsley played a few gigs with them about 10 ago.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 06, 2025, 11:09:36 PM
Nothing wrong with having a tribute band, everything wrong with promoting it as the real band.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: wayaman on August 06, 2025, 11:15:28 PM
Boooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 07, 2025, 12:08:37 AM
Boooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

Lots of other topics on, mate. Go have fun.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Pottel on August 07, 2025, 10:09:27 AM
i think everyone on here HAS made their point clear to all others on here. guess that is a nicer way rather than saying "boring"
i personally will now be checking other topics on here (and close this one in case it becomes too personal/insulting - which it is not yet)
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: wayaman on August 07, 2025, 11:37:26 PM
i think everyone on here HAS made their point clear to all others on here. guess that is a nicer way rather than saying "boring"
i personally will now be checking other topics on here (and close this one in case it becomes too personal/insulting - which it is not yet)

I could also said that I have a Déjà Vu, but it's boring to even say that.

Always the same story, always from the same person, always with the same arguments...

It's like groundhog day.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: diremania on August 08, 2025, 12:02:07 AM
Amen
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 08, 2025, 04:42:02 AM
i think everyone on here HAS made their point clear to all others on here. guess that is a nicer way rather than saying "boring"
i personally will now be checking other topics on here (and close this one in case it becomes too personal/insulting - which it is not yet)

I could also said that I have a Déjà Vu, but it's boring to even say that.

Always the same story, always from the same person, always with the same arguments...

It's like groundhog day.

If there’s one thing I despise is people who don’t have the courage to say things directly.

Having said that, this whole site here is built around Mark Knopfler’s work and it surprises me very much how a topic like this, started to help protect this work, receives so much hate and neglect.

Probably people who never wrote a song nor created anything in any form of art. Just pass through, ignore it.

Things like this remind me of why I hadn’t posted anything in months here.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Pottel on August 08, 2025, 11:22:59 AM
i think everyone on here HAS made their point clear to all others on here. guess that is a nicer way rather than saying "boring"
i personally will now be checking other topics on here (and close this one in case it becomes too personal/insulting - which it is not yet)

I could also said that I have a Déjà Vu, but it's boring to even say that.

Always the same story, always from the same person, always with the same arguments...

It's like groundhog day.

If there’s one thing I despise is people who don’t have the courage to say things directly.

Having said that, this whole site here is built around Mark Knopfler’s work and it surprises me very much how a topic like this, started to help protect this work, receives so much hate and neglect.

Probably people who never wrote a song nor created anything in any form of art. Just pass through, ignore it.

Things like this remind me of why I hadn’t posted anything in months here.
you referring to me?
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Rolo on August 08, 2025, 01:25:16 PM
I am sure that DSL doesn't sell their product as Dire Straits for obvious reasons. Their contract ensures that the project name is Dire Straits Legacy. A tribute band with former DS members + original songs.

The promoters, smart as they are, uses the DS name to promote it on radio/social media. Because no one will really care about it.
The social-media post's description ensure that the name is Dire Straits Legacy.

The musicians does have nothing to do with the promotion.
Only a very small part of the audience will feel scammed.
On the next day, no one will remember it anyway.

And MK still get his money.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Brunno Nunes on August 08, 2025, 03:24:45 PM
I am sure that DSL doesn't sell their product as Dire Straits for obvious reasons. Their contract ensures that the project name is Dire Straits Legacy. A tribute band with former DS members + original songs.

The promoters, smart as they are, uses the DS name to promote it on radio/social media. Because no one will really care about it.
The social-media post's description ensure that the name is Dire Straits Legacy.

The musicians does have nothing to do with the promotion.
Only a very small part of the audience will feel scammed.
On the next day, no one will remember it anyway.

And MK still get his money.

👏🏻🙌🏻😉
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 08, 2025, 03:30:00 PM
i think everyone on here HAS made their point clear to all others on here. guess that is a nicer way rather than saying "boring"
i personally will now be checking other topics on here (and close this one in case it becomes too personal/insulting - which it is not yet)

I could also said that I have a Déjà Vu, but it's boring to even say that.

Always the same story, always from the same person, always with the same arguments...

It's like groundhog day.

If there’s one thing I despise is people who don’t have the courage to say things directly.

Having said that, this whole site here is built around Mark Knopfler’s work and it surprises me very much how a topic like this, started to help protect this work, receives so much hate and neglect.

Probably people who never wrote a song nor created anything in any form of art. Just pass through, ignore it.

Things like this remind me of why I hadn’t posted anything in months here.
you referring to me?

Of course not, to the guy with the Newcastle shirt pic.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 08, 2025, 03:36:21 PM
I am sure that DSL doesn't sell their product as Dire Straits for obvious reasons. Their contract ensures that the project name is Dire Straits Legacy. A tribute band with former DS members + original songs.

The promoters, smart as they are, uses the DS name to promote it on radio/social media. Because no one will really care about it.
The social-media post's description ensure that the name is Dire Straits Legacy.

The musicians does have nothing to do with the promotion.
Only a very small part of the audience will feel scammed.
On the next day, no one will remember it anyway.

And MK still get his money.

Don’t wanna repeat myself but here we go again… people won’t feel scammed because the vast majority of them, at least here in Brazil, year 2025, have no clue who Mark Knopfler is. Go through the comment sections in those posts and you’ll see that. As for the promo, every artist should keep an eye out for what’s being put out with their name. I guess everyone here has googled themselves at least once now imagine if you’re a public figure. But ok, let’s all agree to disagree. If Mark’s management saw this I consider my ‘job’ done.
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Rolo on August 08, 2025, 06:11:19 PM
I am sure that DSL doesn't sell their product as Dire Straits for obvious reasons. Their contract ensures that the project name is Dire Straits Legacy. A tribute band with former DS members + original songs.

The promoters, smart as they are, uses the DS name to promote it on radio/social media. Because no one will really care about it.
The social-media post's description ensure that the name is Dire Straits Legacy.

The musicians does have nothing to do with the promotion.
Only a very small part of the audience will feel scammed.
On the next day, no one will remember it anyway.

And MK still get his money.

Don’t wanna repeat myself but here we go again… people won’t feel scammed because the vast majority of them, at least here in Brazil, year 2025, have no clue who Mark Knopfler is. Go through the comment sections in those posts and you’ll see that. As for the promo, every artist should keep an eye out for what’s being put out with their name. I guess everyone here has googled themselves at least once now imagine if you’re a public figure. But ok, let’s all agree to disagree. If Mark’s management saw this I consider my ‘job’ done.

What I meant was:

The topic was valid. However, it extended too much on debates about promoters, videos and articles.
DSL are playing on Brazil's countryside cities. They KNEW that the promoters are using their band as the Real Thing.

I am SURE that the on DSL contract clauses there is no obrigation to check videos or radio teasers. However, every article or social-media post, the band name is Dire Straits Legacy.

It is unthinkable imagine that MK Management (aka Paul Crockford) will block a social-media post of a small brazilian city because they are "misspelling" Dire Stratits Legacy?

I can imagine PC calling to an Joe Doe.
- Hi, here is PC, I am calling in the name of MK Management. Please remove your video about Dire Straits on the Macaé social-media channel.

- Ih! A lá... qualé malandragem. É trote? (please translate it)


Forget about it, man.

Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 08, 2025, 09:07:13 PM
Thanks for the advice 👍🏻
Title: Re: Fake Straits
Post by: wayaman on August 09, 2025, 12:05:09 AM
i think everyone on here HAS made their point clear to all others on here. guess that is a nicer way rather than saying "boring"
i personally will now be checking other topics on here (and close this one in case it becomes too personal/insulting - which it is not yet)

I could also said that I have a Déjà Vu, but it's boring to even say that.

Always the same story, always from the same person, always with the same arguments...

It's like groundhog day.

If there’s one thing I despise is people who don’t have the courage to say things directly.

Having said that, this whole site here is built around Mark Knopfler’s work and it surprises me very much how a topic like this, started to help protect this work, receives so much hate and neglect.

Probably people who never wrote a song nor created anything in any form of art. Just pass through, ignore it.

Things like this remind me of why I hadn’t posted anything in months here.
you referring to me?

Of course not, to the guy with the Newcastle shirt pic.

I was quite straight and clear.