Recording Policy

[Rollergirl]

I can't see any difference with the previous one. Still photos and audio OK, film not OK

[superval99]

Only the date is different!       No change then!   

[Jules]

There is a part that looks confusing to me:

PHOTOGRAPHY & RECORDING
OF GIGS
Official Policy Statement

Updated: 10 March 2010

Standard 35mm film, digital cameras and compact point-and-shoot models are allowed provided they do not obstruct the view of other fans. Any camera with a removable lens is not permitted.

Paul Crockford
PCM (10/03/10)

So, we can film the show with a 35 mm film cammera? And what's that? Sorry for my ignorance, but it looks that we have a little door to video tape the shows here, isn

[superval99]

jbaent - 35mm film cameras are the old-fashioned type of still camera, where a film is required, before the days of digital cameras.  It is not a movie camera.   

[Dutchessy]

A SLR camera is forbidden... That's a pity

[sweetsurrender]

So now I don't have to worry about bringing my digital camera to take some pictures and film the show too ?     Yeah !!!!!  way to go....

I'm truly surprised that MK would throw his fans out !  That's doesn't sound like our beloved MK. 

As long as people are curteous to each other, everything should be OK.  What I don't like are those over zealous security guys and gals who keep prevent fans to even get up to dance.  They should be the ones that get thrown out.  I'll bring a copy of the policy anyway just in case.

[tunnel85]

The video part of the statement is still very unfair. 

They had two years to find smart solutions (like allowing die hard fans to film from a very restricted section) and what happened ?
Nothing. And they banned SLR cameras.

Back to the Middle Ages. Are Polaroid allowed ?

Hopefully we've also had these two years to find our own solutions and adapt our strategy. 
I'm really optimistic. It can't be worse than last time. 

[dustyvalentino]

The video part of the statement is still very unfair. 

They had two years to find smart solutions (like allowing die hard fans to film from a very restricted section) and what happened ?
Nothing. And they banned SLR cameras.

Back to the Middle Ages. Are Polaroid allowed ?

Hopefully we've also had these two years to find our own solutions and adapt our strategy. 
I'm really optimistic. It can't be worse than last time. 

Don't really see how this is unfair. MK had a very liberal policy on video for years and unfortunately it was abused and revoked. I can't say I'm happy about it but I can understand why MK did it. The only thing I really feel sad about is the fact that MK got so obsessed by it, pointing at cameras instead of playing his guitar etc. 

[Pottel]

exactly dusty.
hey tunnel85, focus your attention on audio :-)

[Waterline Man]

Hey listen IMO this recording issue is like telling a child that they cant have something.As we know only too well there are people out there that will do anything or go anywhere to get what they want so are you telling me that a video recording of a show or several shows wont show up - of course they will .Just last week we hear that the England soccer team's meeting may have been bugged,John Terry was nearly set up by two well known pranksters
who have shown up at several sports events including posing in a man u team pic in 2002,so people will get anywhere or do anything to get what they want.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1257072/How-did-notorious-pranksters-country-England-s-team-hotel.html

- my point is that no matter what MK or PC say its going to happen so I dont see why people are getting so upset about it. I can understand that people want to have some bit of footage that they recorded themselves but su're how many of us have that - we all have boots or multicams that were recorded by someone else

[ds1984]

The disappointing effect fo his aggressive pointing at people filming is amplified by the fact that he was previously allowing video recording.

The precise reason why Mark changed his mind is still a bit obscure to me. Behaving from people filming with annoyance for the band, annoyance for others attending the show, show made available on Youtube? Remember that filming was still allowed on the first night of the KTGC tour and suddenly we got the news by word of mouth on the day of the second show. And people who were filming front row were politely asked to stop [by PC himself if I remember well]. This is a bit later during the tour that Mark started to point (at least in Belgium).

[dustyvalentino]

The disappointing effect fo his aggressive pointing at people filming is amplified by the fact that he was previously allowing video recording.

The precise reason why Mark changed his mind is still a bit obscure to me. Behaving from people filming with annoyance for the band, annoyance for others attending the show, show made available on Youtube? Remember that filming was still allowed on the first night of the KTGC tour and suddenly we got the news by word of mouth on the day of the second show. And people who were filming front row were politely asked to stop [by PC himself if I remember well]. This is a bit later during the tour that Mark started to point (at least in Belgium).

Seems fairly clear, whereas in the past you may have had one or two people scattered throughout a venue discreetly filming, in Amsterdam there were dozens of filmers waving their cameras about right in the front row including one idiot with a tripod.

To be honest this may have been bad luck. If the tour had started at any other venue that WAS NOT general admission, the filmers would have been spread apart and the band may not have noticed, but having so many of them all right down at the front obviously drew attention to the issue. 

[sweetsurrender]

Hey listen IMO this recording issue is like telling a child that they cant have something.As we know only too well there are people out there that will do anything or go anywhere to get what they want so are you telling me that a video recording of a show or several shows wont show up - of course they will .Just last week we hear that the England soccer team's meeting may have been bugged,John Terry was nearly set up by two well known pranksters
who have shown up at several sports events including posing in a man u team pic in 2002,so people will get anywhere or do anything to get what they want.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1257072/How-did-notorious-pranksters-country-England-s-team-hotel.html

- my point is that no matter what MK or PC say its going to happen so I dont see why people are getting so upset about it. I can understand that people want to have some bit of footage that they recorded themselves but su're how many of us have that - we all have boots or multicams that were recorded by someone else

Well said waterline man !! And I'm thankful to all the filmers who share on the tracker.

[Tally]

The disappointing effect fo his aggressive pointing at people filming is amplified by the fact that he was previously allowing video recording.

The precise reason why Mark changed his mind is still a bit obscure to me. Behaving from people filming with annoyance for the band, annoyance for others attending the show, show made available on Youtube? Remember that filming was still allowed on the first night of the KTGC tour and suddenly we got the news by word of mouth on the day of the second show. And people who were filming front row were politely asked to stop [by PC himself if I remember well]. This is a bit later during the tour that Mark started to point (at least in Belgium).

Seems fairly clear, whereas in the past you may have had one or two people scattered throughout a venue discreetly filming, in Amsterdam there were dozens of filmers waving their cameras about right in the front row including one idiot with a tripod.

To be honest this may have been bad luck. If the tour had started at any other venue that WAS NOT general admission, the filmers would have been spread apart and the band may not have noticed, but having so many of them all right down at the front obviously drew attention to the issue. 

Thanks for clearing that up Dusty! General admission has never been used in Sweden so I was wondering about all those cameras... With the pre-sales for fans, however, the same phenomenon might have been at other venues.

[superval99]

I was in Amsterdam, at the front, on both nights and on the second night we were much more tightly packed and even though we had been told that filming was banned, there were still masses of people with cameras held above their heads filming and it was incredibly irritating!