World Cup Final?

[dustyvalentino]

Surely no one can argue against the introduction of technology after the Germany/Argentina decisions.

Still, in both cases they were far superior to the opposition and would have gone through regardless, no question.

[Waterline Man]

In fairness we'd have put up a better show than the French - if it wasn't for the hand of Thierry we could be world champions

Yeah right ................. but we could have!!!!!!!!!!

The faulty is the referee and moreover the FIFA

As long as they will refuse video assist this will happen.

The IRB or the NFL have long understood this.

We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game.  Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result.  Madness.  Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!

It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it.  France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross;  Henry never actually scored with his hand.

We're cool with it but dont tell the English or the Mexican's though,it might still be a bit of a sore point

[FenderBender]

We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game.  Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result.  Madness.  Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!

It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it.  France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross;  Henry never actually scored with his hand.

Meh, doesn't slow the game down much in rugby, tennis etc. As a football fan I would gladly sacrifice this minor delay to get fair results.

Nothing stopping the fourth official having a little TV screen and advising the ref via headphone.

Tennis and Rugby are all stops and starts - that is when the video is used. You can't stop a football match just to see if you made the right decision or not.

Surely no more stops and starts to check a bit of video than there are when whole teams surround the referee to complain about a decision he has made. 

[Simon]

To me this has been the worst World Cup for cheating, cynical fouls and outright gamesmanship. Some of the incidents have actually made me feel physically sick at the depths a so-called human being can stoop to just to gain an advantage or get a fellow player disciplined. Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?

As a lover of the game I feel it is time that the authorities finally got a grip because they simply do not have one at present. Refs are to frightened to be too heavy handed for fear of reprisals, and are more often too lenient. If they were supported by FIFA there wouldn't be many games actually finishing because once a team goes below 7 players the game is abandoned.

As for players surrounding the ref. It is so pathetic that it should be an instant booking for any form of dissent. Unfortunately it is win at all costs for most managers and this feeds through into the team and then it is picked up by young players and the vicious circle continues until the (top-flight professional) game, as it is now is basically filth feeding on filth. Parasites basically.

I know it is a generalisation and there are some good level-headed players - not many though.

[dmg]

To me this has been the worst World Cup for cheating, cynical fouls and outright gamesmanship. Some of the incidents have actually made me feel physically sick at the depths a so-called human being can stoop to just to gain an advantage or get a fellow player disciplined. Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?

As a lover of the game I feel it is time that the authorities finally got a grip because they simply do not have one at present. Refs are to frightened to be too heavy handed for fear of reprisals, and are more often too lenient. If they were supported by FIFA there wouldn't be many games actually finishing because once a team goes below 7 players the game is abandoned.

As for players surrounding the ref. It is so pathetic that it should be an instant booking for any form of dissent. Unfortunately it is win at all costs for most managers and this feeds through into the team and then it is picked up by young players and the vicious circle continues until the (top-flight professional) game, as it is now is basically filth feeding on filth. Parasites basically.

I know it is a generalisation and there are some good level-headed players - not many though.

I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go.  One cannot compare football to other sports where it has been implemented as each sport is unique.  One must tackle the cause of unsporstmanlike behaviour at it's root and it is caused, IMO by there being too much money involved in the game now.  That's why they need to "win at all costs."

[Love Expresso]

As a lover of the game  

Hey, Simon! Very good post, lots of good points here! I feel your love for the game in every word of it. Just yesterday we had another off-side-goal for Spain, which is a pity, although they were really much better. i agree with you on Manuel Neuer, the German keeper. However, there will probably no
professional player in these days who would have said "Hey ref, it was a goal!". People like Chrisiano Ronaldo are good to be dismissed from this tournament though.

Let's looking forward some good and hopefully sporting quarterfinals!

LE

[ds1984]

To me this has been the worst World Cup for cheating, cynical fouls and outright gamesmanship. Some of the incidents have actually made me feel physically sick at the depths a so-called human being can stoop to just to gain an advantage or get a fellow player disciplined. Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?

As a lover of the game I feel it is time that the authorities finally got a grip because they simply do not have one at present. Refs are to frightened to be too heavy handed for fear of reprisals, and are more often too lenient. If they were supported by FIFA there wouldn't be many games actually finishing because once a team goes below 7 players the game is abandoned.

As for players surrounding the ref. It is so pathetic that it should be an instant booking for any form of dissent. Unfortunately it is win at all costs for most managers and this feeds through into the team and then it is picked up by young players and the vicious circle continues until the (top-flight professional) game, as it is now is basically filth feeding on filth. Parasites basically.

I know it is a generalisation and there are some good level-headed players - not many though.

I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go.  One cannot compare football to other sports where it has been implemented as each sport is unique.  One must tackle the cause of unsporstmanlike behaviour at it's root and it is caused, IMO by there being too much money involved in the game now.  That's why they need to "win at all costs."

You are right, soccer will be soon the only remaining sport where you can cheat, that everybody will know you cheated but nothing will happen to correct this.

Video is not the perfect solution but this is now the unavoidable answer to put a little more equity into that sport.

Video judging offside for example is very fast, almost instantly and reliable whereas the human is just physicaly unable to look into two direction at the exact same time...

[Simon]

In a massive tournament like the WC I cannot see why we can't just have a few more pitchside officials. 2 more linesman for starters and an official on each goal line. The miniscule cost of this would be far outweighed by the benefits.

[Simon]

As a lover of the game  

Hey, Simon! Very good post, lots of good points here! I feel your love for the game in every word of it. Just yesterday we had another off-side-goal for Spain, which is a pity, although they were really much better. i agree with you on Manuel Neuer, the German keeper. However, there will probably no
professional player in these days who would have said "Hey ref, it was a goal!". People like Chrisiano Ronaldo are good to be dismissed from this tournament though.

Let's looking forward some good and hopefully sporting quarterfinals!

LE

Exactly LE - not many players would admit to it being  a goal but when a ball has crossed the line for all to see then they are on a hiding to nothing and it shows them for what they really are.

[dustyvalentino]

Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?

There's not a single player in the tournament who would have done anything else.

[dustyvalentino]

I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go. 

You don't even need video techology to see if the ball crossed the line, the ball has a chip in it and the goal posts have sensors, simple, same as F1.

[Simon]

Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?

There's not a single player in the tournament who would have done anything else.

Exactly - that was my main point in the original post - they would all seek to gain an advantage at the other's expense.

I forgot to add - the feigning of injuries or the massive exaggeration of them is also sickening. The Japan team, in one game i saw just got up and got on with the game, no animations or amateur dramatics.

[Simon]

I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go. 

You don't even need video techology to see if the ball crossed the line, the ball has a chip in it and the goal posts have sensors, simple, same as F1.

And cyclops in tennis:-)

[emilianomk]

LOOK THAT!!!

[Love Expresso]

 
Thanks for the link! I admit I was laughing myself into pieces also I better should cry myself a river about these idiots...

However, I like the music on it. Is it Mike McGoldrick on flute?  

LE