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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #240 on: April 27, 2011, 02:53:37 PM »
@ds1984 - I know what you mean, BUT you have to understand Mark in this. Those oldies were part and parcel of who he was during a certain period of his life. He no longer is that person. I know what this is. I've moved countries, and when I go back to Norway on occasions, people remember me as the person I was five or ten years back and expect me to have the same tastes and opinions. I don't, I've changed, they've changed. Even things I might have done that deserve some merit, they still go on about it, how great it was. I feel embarrassed about it. For Mark to play songs that currently have no or little relevance for him, would be pretence. If he forced himself, the delivery of those songs would certainly feel forced as well. He can only be who he is. Some like it, some don't.

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #241 on: April 27, 2011, 11:04:55 PM »
I've pretty much kept out of this debate. Let me just say it's ridiculous for anyone to believe that anyone other than Mark was the reason for Dire Straits Success. Seriously? Dire Straits WAS Mark Knopfler. He doesn't owe anyone any credit. He was the writer for pretty much every track they released. The other band members should be thanking him for what he gave to them. Dire Straits are dead as a touring band... End of!

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #242 on: April 28, 2011, 11:42:57 AM »
Mark is still playing DS stuff live.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #243 on: April 28, 2011, 12:24:43 PM »

What I worry about is that it all could be a huge disappointment and the tears may not be of joy!  I would love to hear WDYTYG sung live again, by Mark, but I fear it would spoil my memories. :-\    I prefer MK to continue on the path he is on at the moment and just remember those great DS songs as they were on the recordings we are lucky enough to still have.   

I agree with Jackal, MK is a different person now and is doing what HE likes doing.   :)


Right! My great memories of listening him playing SOS are long spoiled by his latest rendition of it.

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #244 on: April 28, 2011, 01:13:29 PM »
Maybe I'm in a minority but I'm really not fussed about hearing WDTYG again. There are much better solo songs that have never been played, 5.15am, You Don't Know You're Born etc.
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #245 on: April 28, 2011, 01:18:54 PM »
Right! My great memories of listening him playing SOS are long spoiled by his latest rendition of it.

If SOS is a song he likes, imagine him playing a song he doesn't like.

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #246 on: April 28, 2011, 01:21:31 PM »
I rather listen to his own solo songs than DS ones, in fact, I
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #247 on: April 28, 2011, 01:54:22 PM »
Not sure Chris White did very much for TOL in BIA Tour did he? Maybe sax on intro but how can you have any Dire Straits songs without MK...to be honest I think they sound really bad without MK's vocals and people who try to sound like MK on vocals sound terrible.....let's face it MK isn't that gifted a singer , he wouldn't win X Factor but he's MK and mixed the vocals with his guitar styles and song writing styles to create something brilliant and unique...it's really hard to cover that, even if you used to be in the band......pretty sure the Special Guest is John Illsley (or one of the tribute band singers) who will no doubt do vocals, but I'm not sure that DS would have made it, even with the songs, if these guys had taken over from MK, they haven't got that je ne c'est.......etc

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #248 on: April 28, 2011, 02:03:12 PM »
I've pretty much kept out of this debate. Let me just say it's ridiculous for anyone to believe that anyone other than Mark was the reason for Dire Straits Success. Seriously? Dire Straits WAS Mark Knopfler. He doesn't owe anyone any credit. He was the writer for pretty much every track they released. The other band members should be thanking him for what he gave to them. Dire Straits are dead as a touring band... End of!

There, I feel better now :)

plus he gets/got fairly cranky from time to time as well,I reckon he isn't the easiest man to work with ::)A lot of guys that have been there & done that seem to have been dropped off at the pass for some reason without a real explanation from either side - a bit like Jack Sonni- here today gone tomorrow,no real reason??Chad,here today gone tomorrow,no real reason only that he had family commmitments ::) ::)Maybe they like sausages or something :P :P

He's still the best though 8) 8)
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #249 on: April 28, 2011, 02:47:41 PM »

What I worry about is that it all could be a huge disappointment and the tears may not be of joy!  I would love to hear WDYTYG sung live again, by Mark, but I fear it would spoil my memories. :-\    I prefer MK to continue on the path he is on at the moment and just remember those great DS songs as they were on the recordings we are lucky enough to still have.   

I agree with Jackal, MK is a different person now and is doing what HE likes doing.   :)


Right! My great memories of listening him playing SOS are long spoiled by his latest rendition of it.



I really enjoyed SOS on the 2010 tour and he really does seem to enjoy playing it!    :)
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #250 on: April 28, 2011, 03:20:22 PM »
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #251 on: April 28, 2011, 03:22:57 PM »
Maybe I'm in a minority but I'm really not fussed about hearing WDTYG again. There are much better solo songs that have never been played, 5.15am, You Don't Know You're Born etc.

I'd like to hear those too! Also "Fare Thee Well Northumberland" and "Old Pigweed".    There are so many beautiful songs still to be heard, played live, from the solo albums, so let's hope we hear more of them!   It was a real treat in 2005 to hear "Back to Tupelo" in Edinburgh Playhouse.  
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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #253 on: April 28, 2011, 05:37:32 PM »

If you wanna listen to the DS songs, go to the RAH and enjoy Dire Straits  ;D


That's better like that  ;)

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Re: The Straits Charity in RAH?
« Reply #254 on: April 28, 2011, 05:38:28 PM »
Sultans was really great in the final stages of the tour I think. And I found myself thinking that for the first time I would not bother if he played exactly the same set list on the next tour as he did in July 2010... even if no new song was played and even if he really kept the same sequence I would really enjoy the show - it was so great and I still stick to some of the shows on a daily base more or less.

All songs I wish to hear live have been mentioned in the last post actually, 5.15 am, Fare Thee Well Northumberland, You Don't Know You're Born... I might add "Before Trash MTV" and "One More Matinee".
And "Silvertown Blues".

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