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The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« on: August 22, 2013, 01:51:21 PM »
Hi Amiters,
After Privateering Tour,  wonderful tour really awesome  well played and sung, I want to draw your attention to the only tour that Mark has deleted  :'( :'( :'( :'( for the reasons that we know that is 'The Ragpicker's dream Tour.
From what I remember the band that was supposed to accompany Mark was different from that of STP 01', had to be there if I remember correctly, Marcus Cliff, Danny, Guy and another musician on cittern tha not remember the name  :hmm . Guy after the deletion tour had made known by his site the list of tracks they had  musical rehearsals to play in tour, like  On evey Street  ::) ::).
I ask you if you remember the whole list and band members who join in it.
Thanks.
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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 02:17:54 PM »
Wasn't Glenn Worf supposed to be involved ?
The other guy who was to be a multi-instrumentalist is Fats Kaplin.
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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 02:27:11 PM »
I would say that musically, the TRD tour has been replaced by the KTGC tour :

2008 setlist had more TRD tracks than KTGC tracks :

up to 5 at Amsterdam : WAM, HFB, MT, DGTK, DB

I am listening to 2008 stuff by now, and I think that the 2003 tour would have sounded this way, but of course it's just speculation.

Marks obviosuly wanted to play some stuff from TRD.
after the 2003 tour deleted, what could he do ? plyaing this sruff on 2005 tour, but it would have dropped some stuff from Shangri-La, which he obviously didn't want.
then in 2008, it didn't bother him to drop stuff from KTGC in order to play stuff from TRD.

in 2010 he went back to TRD again with Coyote, and kept HFB.

the TRD album is obviously one of his fav, while KTGC is not...

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 02:50:20 PM »
"Cittern" made its first appearance in Mark's oeuvre in 2008 with John McCusker. Fats Kaplin was intended to play pedal steel which made the apprearance of On Every Street possible, something that Guy hinted would have been on the possible playlist if I remember correctly. Or was it The Man's Too Strong"... or both?

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 02:58:00 PM »
"Cittern" made its first appearance in Mark's oeuvre in 2008 with John McCusker. Fats Kaplin was intended to play pedal steel which made the apprearance of On Every Street possible, something that Guy hinted would have been on the possible playlist if I remember correctly. Or was it The Man's Too Strong"... or both?

LE

OES for 2003
MTS was rehearsed on a later tour. I would say 2005 because now Guy absolutly refuse to  spill the bean on that matter anymore.

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 03:26:33 PM »
It certainly would have been one of the more interesting tours with that line-up.  The songs that they rehearsed indeed included OES and coupled with the way Mark played at the 2002 charity concerts I have always regarded the cancellation as such a tragedy. 

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 02:56:03 PM »
Tour line-up would have been:

Mark Knopfler (guitar, vocals)
Guy Fletcher (keyboards, guitar, vocals)
Richard Bennett (guitar)
Jim Cox (piano, organ, accordion)
Danny Cummings (drums)
Marcus Cliffe (bass)
Fats Kaplin (guitar, fiddle, pedal steel)

From oneverybootleg.nl

You can also see al planned tourdates ;)

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 06:16:27 PM »
Sorry for the "newbie" questions...  but why was the TRD tour cancelled?  Were tickets ever sold?  What happened?
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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 06:22:58 PM »
Tickets were sold (I bought some tickets for Amsterdam) but MK got hurt in a motorcycle accident:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2859527.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/men_shealth/3309660/She-could-have-asked-how-I-was.html

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 07:53:15 PM »
 :smack Thanks, TheTimeWasWrong!!  I didn't put 2+2 together...   :)

And thanks for posting the articles.  the second article, from The Telegraph, is a nice read!  :wave
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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 10:13:56 PM »
Hi Amiters,
thanks for your attention, to complete the discussion someone knows how to rewrite the list of Guy who had published with their details?
gIANCARLO

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2013, 02:52:34 AM »
Strange line-up : no Glenn Worf and Jim Cox who was supposed, at this time, to have inner ear troubles with air travel !
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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2013, 10:52:21 AM »
The article from Telegraph is great, I have never read it before! Thanks for sharing :)

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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2013, 04:12:59 PM »
Strange line-up : no Glenn Worf and Jim Cox who was supposed, at this time, to have inner ear troubles with air travel !


Jim had crossed the Atlantic by boat if I remember well and at that time his ear problem were supposed to be solved


TOURING BAND LINE-UP: The line-up for the forth-coming TRD tour will be:

 Mark Knopfler: guitars/vocals
 Guy Fletcher: keyboards, musical director
 Danny Cummings: drums
 Marcus Cliffe: bass
 Jim Cox: keyboards
 Richard Bennett: guitars
 Fats Kaplin: guitar, fiddle, violin, pedal ste

Source : mark-Kopfler-News.co.uk, retrived from archive.org : News
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Re: The Ragpicker's dream Tour 2003
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 04:51:22 PM »
Maybe Jim was to travel with the staff instead of the plane...

Its strange because Jim was in the band for the 03 tour but for the next ones (05, 06, 08 & 10) Matt Rollings took Jim's spot because his ear condition.

Was Jim better in 03 but later the illness came back, or maybe the idea was having Jim travelling out of the plane?
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