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Norvegian wood
« on: August 23, 2013, 02:25:00 PM »
I am listening to rubber soul right now, and I remember reading somewhere that Norvegian wood was a nice piece of typic Lennon's humor.

my english is so bad that I have to translate on google to understand all words.

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/beatles/norwegian+wood_10026489.html


I understood the song "literraly" :

a room with no chair, bed and furniture all in "norvegian wood" ?
the man been "fired" by the girl ?
then he burns the furniture into fire ?

but is there a "hidding message" ?

does the words "norvegian wood" mean something else then wood coming from norway ?

is there a pun I don't understand ?


sorry for silly questions  :-[


thanks in advance  :wave

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Re: Norvegian wood
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 08:05:55 PM »
Found a few things... 
From Urban Dictionary:
The lyrics describe the evolution of an extra-marital affair that John had that was now over. Paul sang the words. The title phrase is a play on phonetics - the line "knowing she would" in the lyrics was considered to be too risque for radio so that phrase was replaced by "Norwegian Wood".
From Wikipedia:
Lennon started composing the song on his acoustic guitar in January 1965, while on holiday with his wife, Cynthia, in the Swiss Alps.[6] Lennon later explained that the lyric was about an affair he had been having:

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Re: Norvegian wood
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 10:29:48 PM »
many tanks for your investigations Lis , much apreciated  :thumbsup :)

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Re: Norvegian wood
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 12:50:20 PM »
Hey Lis! Thank you. Always hoped we had such in depth analysis for MK's songs! They rather add up to the mystery.
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Re: Norvegian wood
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 07:58:36 PM »
I was also a bit surprised at what I could find online, which is apparently known because Lennon openly spoke about the genesis of the song (one of many affairs that he had while married to Cynthia). 

MK guards his personal life, which I understand (even if I am dying to know the true meaning of his lyrics!!!).  He shares snippets of his life, along with some very personal emotions, with us through his music.  For that, I am very, very grateful. 
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Re: Norvegian wood
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 08:52:12 PM »
My other favourite band is Belle and Sebastian, which built their career on not revealing anything, not giving interviews etc. Of course only the first 4 years. But I wonder if it is just a coinsidence that I like artists that do not reveal much about their art and personal life. Of course I will take any info handed out, but I will not search for it. 
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Re: Norvegian wood
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 02:26:29 AM »
I can add very little to the discussion about the lyrics of "Norwegian Wood" . They read more about a "one night stand" than an "affair" to me but who am I to say?

But Ian MacDonald has quite a lot to say and I would encourage you to read his book, "Revolution In The Head". Lennon started the song in St Moritz in January 1965 and McCartney made a contribution, as said in an earlier post, but MacDonald suggests the latter's contribution was significant ("close to a fifty-fifty collaboration").

MacDonald thinks that the  music may have been influenced by a meeting that Lennon and Harrison had with two of The Byrds in August 1965, at which they discussed the sitar and ragas, whilst on a trip. Harrison's sitar is double-tracked. The song was not recorded until October 1965 and MacDonald thinks that the recording was varispeeded for the RUBBER SOUL release.

By way of background, MacDonald says that Lennon and McCartney "were aware that Bob Dylan, with his tumultuously original singles Subterranean Homesick Blues and Like A Rolling Stone, had rolled back the horizons of the pop lyric in a way they must acknowledge and somehow outdo". MacDonald says that Lennon told him that the other Beatles joshed him about copying Dylan.  MacDonald goes on to describe "Norwegian Wood" as "the first Beatle song in which the lyric is more important than the music". He also says that "Lennon was uneasy about trespassing on Dylan's territory" and that, when Dylan parodied "Norwegian Wood" (with "4th Time Around") on his BLONDE ON BLONDE album, Lennon later admitte to being "paranoid" about it.

MacDonald says that, "Aside from a reference to the Sixties fashion for Scandinavian pine interiors, Lennon admitted to having no idea why NORWEGIAN WOOD was so-called". The sub-title of the song is "This Bird Had Flown" and this was apparently its early title.

 

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