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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2020, 11:03:05 am »
Without wishing to be negative, I have to say I am not optimistic about the Old Vic performances going ahead. Though it is difficult to predict how it might pan out, this Coronavirus situation is likely to drag on for quite a few months - possibly even the bulk of this year and I cannot see the Old Vic shows not being affected in some way.  :(

I agree.   Already some theatres have closed in London, so I am prepared for the Old Vic to be cancelling too.   At least I was lucky enough to see the show in Edinburgh.

Yes, I think it's in big danger of being cancelled, specially since Boris Johnson took the decision of doing nothing. Italy closed all his people at home to stop the virus, Spain is doing it as well, and I think many other countries as well. That might work to stop it but if the UK doesn't anything when they can stop it at an early stage, it will have consequences very soon.

All of you that can avoid it in the UK, stay safe!

Boris is not doing nothing - he is taking a different course than other countries.   He is listening to scientists who have a better understanding of how to control the virus, because, let's face it, a politician doesn't have the same knowledge as they do.   As I see it, the plan is not to have a huge peak of the disease suddenly happening all at once, which will put resources under a great strain.  It is intended to happen more gradually.

The UK, at the moment, has far fewer cases of the virus, and deaths than Italy, France or Spain, but, of course that will possibly change over the next few weeks as we are a few weeks behind Italy - we don't know!   

The latest news is not good for the over 70s, of which I am one.   We have been told that in the next week or so all over 70s will be told to self-isolate for four months and not go outside, which sounds horrendous, because a lot of older people are much fitter than those who are younger!  For instance me and my husband walk five or six miles most days and because we live with open countryside closeby we don't meet anyone.   At the moment we are healthy, with no underlying illnesses.

We, obviously, won't be able to go to the supermarket, so we tried to sign up for a home delivery, but all of the slots are taken now!   Many of my neighbours are over 70, so we are all in the same boat.   The solution would be to give over 70s priority for home deliveries if they want us to stay in our houses for four months.  We will see - meanwhile we are shopping for the essentials to keep us going for as long as possible without coming into contact with too many other people.

I am not Boris-bashing, because I do think he is doing what he believes is best.   It will be interesting to see the statistics, when this pandemic is over and see which country took the right course.

Take care, everybody, because we are all in this together!   :wave

 
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2020, 11:05:01 am »
I would read it, Pottel, but I don't subscribe to The Washington Post.
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2020, 11:07:01 am »
Without wishing to be negative, I have to say I am not optimistic about the Old Vic performances going ahead. Though it is difficult to predict how it might pan out, this Coronavirus situation is likely to drag on for quite a few months - possibly even the bulk of this year and I cannot see the Old Vic shows not being affected in some way.  :(

I agree.   Already some theatres have closed in London, so I am prepared for the Old Vic to be cancelling too.   At least I was lucky enough to see the show in Edinburgh.

Yes, I think it's in big danger of being cancelled, specially since Boris Johnson took the decision of doing nothing. Italy closed all his people at home to stop the virus, Spain is doing it as well, and I think many other countries as well. That might work to stop it but if the UK doesn't anything when they can stop it at an early stage, it will have consequences very soon.

All of you that can avoid it in the UK, stay safe!

Boris is not doing nothing - he is taking a different course than other countries.   He is listening to scientists who have a better understanding of how to control the virus, because, let's face it, a politician doesn't have the same knowledge as they do.   As I see it, the plan is not to have a huge peak of the disease suddenly happening all at once, which will put resources under a great strain.  It is intended to happen more gradually.

The UK, at the moment, has far fewer cases of the virus, and deaths than Italy, France or Spain, but, of course that will possibly change over the next few weeks as we are a few weeks behind Italy - we don't know!   

The latest news is not good for the over 70s, of which I am one.   We have been told that in the next week or so all over 70s will be told to self-isolate for four months and not go outside, which sounds horrendous, because a lot of older people are much fitter than those who are younger!  For instance me and my husband walk five or six miles most days and because we live with open countryside closeby we don't meet anyone.   At the moment we are healthy, with no underlying illnesses.

We, obviously, won't be able to go to the supermarket, so we tried to sign up for a home delivery, but all of the slots are taken now!   Many of my neighbours are over 70, so we are all in the same boat.   The solution would be to give over 70s priority for home deliveries if they want us to stay in our houses for four months.  We will see - meanwhile we are shopping for the essentials to keep us going for as long as possible without coming into contact with too many other people.

I am not Boris-bashing, because I do think he is doing what he believes is best.   It will be interesting to see the statistics, when this pandemic is over and see which country took the right course.

Take care, everybody, because we are all in this together!   :wave

 
also, in some countries the elderly are allowed in exclusely in the early hours. also, go outside, enjoy the weather, walk, just keep your distance?
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2020, 11:08:59 am »
I would read it, Pottel, but I don't subscribe to The Washington Post.
LONDON — Immediately after Boris Johnson completed his Monday evening news conference, which saw a somber prime minister encourage his fellow citizens to avoid "all nonessential contact with others," his aides hustled reporters into a second, off-camera briefing.

That session presented jaw-dropping numbers from some of Britain’s top modelers of infectious disease, who predicted the deadly course of the coronavirus could quickly kill hundreds of thousands in both the United Kingdom and the United States, as surges of sick and dying patients overwhelmed hospitals and critical care units.

The new forecasts, by Neil Ferguson and his colleagues at the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team, were quickly endorsed by Johnson’s government to design new and more extreme measures to suppress the spread of the virus.
The report is also influencing planning by the Trump administration. Deborah Birx, who serves as the coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, cited the British analysis at a news conference Monday, saying her response team was especially focused on the report’s conclusion that an entire household should self-quarantine for 14 days if one of its members is stricken by the virus.

The Imperial College London group reported that if nothing was done by governments and individuals and the pandemic remained uncontrolled, 510,000 would die in Britain and 2.2 million in the United States over the course of the outbreak.

These kinds of numbers are deeply concerning for countries with top-drawer health-care systems. They are terrifying for less-developed countries, global health experts say.

If Britain and the United States pursued more-ambitious measures to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus, to slow but not necessarily stop the epidemic over the coming few months, they could reduce mortality by half, to 260,000 people in the United Kingdom and 1.1 million in the United States.
Finally, if the British government quickly went all-out to suppress viral spread — aiming to reverse epidemic growth and reduce the case load to a low level — then the number of dead in the country could drop to below 20,000. To do this, the researchers said, Britain would have to enforce social distancing for the entire population, isolate all cases, demand quarantines of entire households where anyone is sick, and close all schools and universities — and do this not for weeks but for 12 to 18 months, until a vaccine is available.
“We might be living in a very different world for a year or more,” Ferguson told reporters.

The modelers did not give numbers for the United States for the most intense suppression efforts.

The researchers reminded governments that these forecasts are based on current observed trends in China, South Korea, Britain and Italy but that much remains unknown about the virus.

The Imperial College report, which was shared with the British government over the weekend ahead of its official release Monday, was responsible in large part for Johnson’s turnaround decision to begin rolling out what 10 Downing Street described as life-altering, “drastic” measures to control the spread of the novel coronavirus, aides said.

Johnson said the virus “would overwhelm any health system in the world” if quarantines and limits on social contact are not taken. “Although the measures we have already announced are extreme, we may have to go further in the coming days,” the prime minister said Tuesday.
Johnson urged his fellow citizens to immediately start to avoid “all nonessential contact with others,” work from home and self-
isolate now if they are elderly or suffer from underlying medical conditions. The measures are still voluntary, but Johnson warned that his government had the power to make them mandatory
Johnson said that healthy and asymptomatic Britons should avoid pubs, clubs and theaters. In London, the bars were still open Monday. Most schools, museums and restaurants were, too. But the prime minister said closing schools was “under consideration.”

Roy Anderson, an infectious disease specialist at Imperial College, who was not a part of the study, said Britain probably had much more to do. “I don’t know if these measures are enough yet,” he said. “And I wish we had done them last week.”
If Britain had continued on the go-slow, step-by-step course that it set just days ago, the Imperial College modeling envisioned hundreds of thousands of deaths and a tidal wave of cases that would overwhelm the National Health Service and its hospitals. There are currently 7,000 ventilators available for all of England, the largest nation within the United Kingdom, with a population of 56 million.

The British forecast also influenced thinking at the White House. On Monday evening in Washington, President Trump said that Americans should avoid gathering in groups of more than 10 people, eating in restaurants or taking nonessential trips — his most significant push yet to combat a viral outbreak.

At a news conference Monday at the White House, Birx said her group has been working with modelers around the globe, including in Britain.
“So, we had new information coming out from a model, and what had the biggest impact in the model is social distancing, small groups, not going in public in large groups. But the most important thing was if one person in the household became infected, the whole household self-quarantined for 14 days. Because that stops 100 percent of the transmission outside of the household,” she said.
To suppress spread in Britain, widespread school and university closings might also be necessary, though Ferguson worried about its impact on staffing at NHS hospitals, where as many as a third of nurses have school-age children, the Guardian newspaper reported.

In their forecast, the modelers envision that strict measures over the coming months will occasionally be loosened, but as soon as they are, viral spread could come roaring back.

“The major challenge of suppression is that this type of intensive intervention package . . . will need to be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more), given that we predict that transmission will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed,” the study concludes.

“Intermittent social distancing — triggered by trends in disease surveillance — may allow interventions to be relaxed temporarily in relatively short time windows, but measures will need to be reintroduced if or when case numbers rebound,” the research team said.

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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2020, 11:15:08 am »
Sainsbury's supermarket have said this morning that the over-70s will be allowed into the store one hour before any other shoppers and also have given priority to the over-70s for home deliveries on certain days.  So things are improving!   

As I said in my earlier post we walk most days for about six miles and we also work in the garden a lot.  When we do pass people we give them a very wide berth and wave to them!    ;D

Thanks for the WP article - I am just about to read it!
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2020, 11:37:48 am »
Pottel - I have read the article, but it just reiterates what we are being told on the daily news briefings from Boris and the scientists each evening.    We have been told from the start that after each stage is reviewed we will move on the the next as the virus develops, so we are coming into the supression stage now.    The problem is that when people eventually come out of isolation, the virus could rear its ugly head again and we are back to square one, which is why supression must last until a vaccine is found.  Could be a long time!

Personally I think that pubs and clubs should close, because it is confusing as it is, but closing schools could cause more upheaval as lots of parents are in the care industry and also the NHS, so if they stayed home to look after the children it would cause a problem with staffing.   Lots of children are cared for by grandparents, which obviously, if they are over-70, is a no-no!   Children don't get the virus as easily, but they are superspreaders, so best kept together at school.

At the moment the UK statistics are quite low at the moment compared with Italy, France and Germany, but we haven't reached the peak yet.

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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2020, 11:41:05 am »
Pottel - I have read the article, but it just reiterates what we are being told on the daily news briefings from Boris and the scientists each evening.    We have been told from the start that after each stage is reviewed we will move on the the next as the virus develops, so we are coming into the supression stage now.    The problem is that when people eventually come out of isolation, the virus could rear its ugly head again and we are back to square one, which is why supression must last until a vaccine is found.  Could be a long time!

Personally I think that pubs and clubs should close, because it is confusing as it is, but closing schools could cause more upheaval as lots of parents are in the care industry and also the NHS, so if they stayed home to look after the children it would cause a problem with staffing.   Lots of children are cared for by grandparents, which obviously, if they are over-70, is a no-no!   Children don't get the virus as easily, but they are superspreaders, so best kept together at school.

At the moment the UK statistics are quite low at the moment compared with Italy, France and Germany, but we haven't reached the peak yet.


schools in Belgium have been open, but only to take care of kids whose parents either work in healthcare/supermarket kind of jobs, or who would otherwise have to send their kids to the grandparents. think that is a very good compromise. i believe the same goes for Germany.
also, i wanted to point out the potential US/UK death toll if it was not managed correctly. that's all.
most importantly, i hope all of us on here are/stay healthy!
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2020, 11:50:45 am »
Guys, here we are talking about the consequences of the virus on the Local Hero performances, there is another thread specifically to talk about it...

Don't mess the topics, please.
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2020, 11:53:04 am »
yes and no....but yes....
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2020, 01:55:58 pm »
Wrong thread

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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2020, 04:57:14 pm »
This is the greatest crisis any of us are likely to be part of.

Who gives a fuck about which thread is right?


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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2020, 07:40:05 pm »
This is the greatest crisis any of us are likely to be part of.

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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2020, 09:17:14 am »
This is the greatest crisis any of us are likely to be part of.

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We would end talking the same in different places... It does not make sense.

If not, why we have different threads? Just have one big thread and talk everything there?

Old Vic are sending mails telling they are closing temporarily but they hope to open in a month, if the situation improves.

Guy said the rehearsals would start in May, it would be too early looking at how the situation is...
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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2020, 05:39:55 pm »
But it looks highly unlikely now, frankly. Wimbledon is off, the Edinburgh Festival is off, etc etc. I think the Local Hero dates are simply too soon to have much chance of surviving.

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Re: MK revisiting his songs for the London run of Local Hero Musical
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2020, 08:41:50 pm »
It's very likely it would be suspended but I guess they will wait until May, which is when rehearsals would start, to decide what they do with it.

I bet they would delay the London run to next year.
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