Here’s what happened FROM MEMORY and from checking my paperwork….. a bit long winded but I know you like FACTS.
Terry joined after Pick left on my recommendation after the LOG recording which Pick played on along with a drum machine on ID called Cecil. .
He remained with DS up to and including the Nelson Mandela show in 1988 ( last show he played) but wasn’t “let go” until OES recording ( as you know it’s unclear to me/him as to why).
The band rehearsed the BIA material at Phil Manzanera’s ( Roxy Music ) studio in Chertsey just outside London Oct 2-31 1984 ( with Terry ).
Nov 1- travel to Montserrat, West Indies.
BIA album recorded at Air Studios, Montserrat Nov 3-Dec 21 1984.
Terry was present throughout but many of the drum parts he recorded ( not intro to MFN or WOL ) were replaced across two days by Omar Hakim who flew down from NY.
I imagine he was recommended by Neil Dorfsman. I can’t recall the exact dates.
Terry stayed on ( for rec co and tour programme photos etc and in case he was needed ) until they all returned to UK on Dec 22 where it was raining. .
Amazingly they had Christmas and New Year OFF…last time off for quite a while.
They returned to Montserrat on Jan 1 1985 ( I don't think Terry went…..no drummer required ).
Jan 2 -off.
Recorded in Montserrat Jan 3 - February 6 1985.
Feb 7 - travel to NY.
Recorded at Power Station NY February 8-March 10 1985 (overdubs, vocals etc….no drummer required ).
March 11-travel to London.
Mixing at Air Studios, London March 12-30 with band tour rehearsals taking place simultaneously.
We were running way behind schedule and had to leave UK on March 31 to undertake some press and promo in Paris from April 2 so Mark rehearsed with the band ( including Terry) during the day and mixed with Neil D at night!
YES. He was fucked, exhausted, no idea how he did that……🕺.
The whole band (including Terry) went to Paris March 31, then flew to Dubrovnik for band rehearsals April 5-14 and Split April 15-26 for production rehearsals ( full crew and gear ) .
April 27 travel to Israel.
April 30. BIA tour begins ( including Terry ) in Jerusalem.
Terry performed ( magnificently) on every show on the tour, didn’t miss one, up to April 1986.
According to Kanavan’s web site he was recognised as a “capable drummer”.
We needed ( and always had ) drummers who were a bit more than capable!
He is not mentioned on Killing Joke’s website.
He is mentioned amongst "past members" on Enigma’s site but not in the text. Since Michael Cretu ( Enigma) uses electronic drums most of the time I wonder what he was doing…….plugging them in?
He is mentioned amongst "past members" on The Maisonette's site but not in the text.
He is mentioned on Alan Parson’s site ..” percussion 1993 ” but not in the text and that is way after the BIA period.
The link to DS on his site has been removed.
According to the text he was working as a music tutor in the “early 1980’s “ …so IF we engaged him HOW did we find him or even hear of him, and what for?
I have no idea as to the validity of any of these claims ( which doesn’t mean they aren’t correct, but it’s THE WEB folks).
I checked with my office staff and Terry Kilburn ( MK News) .
No one has heard of him.
I do not have any contact details for him and neither do any of them.
We did not pay him ( for what? ) .
We did not organise any travel for him ( maybe he sat on Terry’s lap but that’s risky, it is not a stable surface), and he definitely did not go to Montserrat or New York ( why? )
He is not credited on the BIA sleeve/artwork but is briefly mentioned on the BIA website ( which of course no one involved actually wrote least of all me or my office ! ).
I can confirm Jimmy Maelen RIP did the BIA percussion ( brilliant guy ).
So 100% he is not on the record.
The vague implication is that this guy was somehow “recruited” between New Year 1985 and the tour start, but when, by whom, for how long, for what…drums or percussion ( which Joop was doing) and where did Terry go when this was supposedly going on ?
IF he was where/when did he audition or rehearse…see date schedule above ?
Since Omar H and Jimmy M had ALREADY done the record and Terry was ALREADY set for the tour ( eg visas applied for USA , air tickets and hotels booked, cymbals polished etc ) WHY would we have approached someone else?
Incidentally Terry never “ rejoined ”…he NEVER LEFT.
OR…did that happen without me or anyone in our organisation being told and somehow it took place in that mad schedule I’ve laid out above on a day when just by chance I didn't go to the studio and/or rehearsal space, ( which when they’d moved to London was every day) ?
Until this speculation arose I had never heard of this guy, never met him, never spoken to him and for 40 years no one has ever asked me about him or brought up him “joining”, and critically we DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME to go hunting about for a drummer for fux sake, we had to get the record/artwork finished !
He certainly never performed with DS in public…….I WAS THERE!
So...…..Pottel….YES it’s possible in the time honoured tradition of DS ie ANYTHING is possible ( just don’t tell the management ) but likely?
Short of asking MK or JI about something that might have happened 40 years ago which I’m not going to do I think you can put this to bed unless Mr Kanavan sees this and corrects me ( no prob if he does..I’d be fascinated ..I agree it seems such an unlikely thing to claim ).
Incidentally Eric Clapton had nothing to do with the recording of BIA but could easily have loaned MK a guitar or two ..response 6 from The Visitor sounds likely ( the “ vanity ” bit ).
Guitarists lending/swopping/giving guitars to other guitarists is VERY common.
And no, I don't know what guitars were used but Jack only played on TMTS ( synth guitar), he did not play on OW, SFA, WOL.
Here endeth today’s lesson and what fun it was 😱.
