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Author Topic: Live Guitar Auction  (Read 9343 times)

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #210 on: January 31, 2024, 09:13:34 PM »
Guys, it's been a fun day, lets keep it fun :)
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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #211 on: January 31, 2024, 09:13:54 PM »
You say you troll. And then wonder if you get negative responses, lol. Of course there is appraisal, this is a fan forum.  ???

See, you already accusing me of something I never meant. I do troll SOMETIMES. Barely. The vast majority of the time I write sincerely. Nothing wrong with a little bit of trolling anyway. As for the fan forum, does being a fan make you a positive appraisal machine? I don't think so. Quite the contrary. I just have a lot to say, please forgive me.

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #212 on: January 31, 2024, 09:15:49 PM »
Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #213 on: January 31, 2024, 09:16:26 PM »
You say you troll. And then wonder if you get negative responses, lol. Of course there is appraisal, this is a fan forum.  ???

See, you already accusing me of something I never meant. I do troll SOMETIMES. Barely. The vast majority of the time I write sincerely. Nothing wrong with a little bit of trolling anyway. As for the fan forum, does being a fan make you a positive appraisal machine? I don't think so. Quite the contrary. I just have a lot to say, please forgive me.

I’ll forgive you, water under the bridge. Only if it’s in the centre of the screen;-)

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #214 on: January 31, 2024, 09:16:52 PM »
Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap

That’s a cool looking strat. Love the pickups
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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #215 on: January 31, 2024, 09:19:27 PM »
Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap

That’s a cool looking strat. Love the pickups

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #216 on: January 31, 2024, 09:24:12 PM »
Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap

That’s a cool looking strat. Love the pickups

In fact, all 4 Red Strats went for about 100 grand each. The Strat is still the real MK guitar. The margin is even bigger than for Martins.

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #217 on: January 31, 2024, 09:25:35 PM »
It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59  is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.

Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.

I expected the 59 to go at least 750k hammer price.

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #218 on: January 31, 2024, 09:31:39 PM »
It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59  is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.

Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.

I expected the 59 to go at least 750k hammer price.

Yes, the prices are disappointing indeed. As I wrote the previous message I thought, FENDER STRATS OWNED AND USED BY MARK KNOPFLER, his arguably most iconic guitars people associate him with, one of which is a freaking 1/1 artist's prototype, which is even documented in 2009 live shows, all went for 100K minus taxes and commissions or whatever.

Tells you a lot, or probably everything you need to know about Mark's popularity. He wanted to be less famous, he got it, and now we have the numbers to prove it.

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #219 on: January 31, 2024, 09:36:03 PM »
It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59  is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.

Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.

It seems that The "cheaper" guitars attract the "artist premium", but that the guitars  that have a higher intrinsic value don't benefit from this in the same way. If his 59 Les Paul makes the ballpark figure for that model I consider that's reasonable.  What i find astounding is that Ekos and Teiscos made so much more than their estimate, which must be partly due to Mark's ownership(and they are not all "shitty" - Japan produced some good instruments in the 60s compared to some of the cheaper alternatives) and they do have that retro tone Mark wanted on Shangri La & KTGC.   But yes, £13K was ridiculous for a cigar box guitar.
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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #220 on: January 31, 2024, 09:40:06 PM »
It's been interesting to watch. I can't help thinking though after all these sales more should have been given to charity, and yes I'm talking about MKs proportion. I've gone from excited interest to slight disgust at the amounts of money involved, and what money sits behind winning bids.

I'm grateful to have been able to view them for free but the whole exercise provokes feelings of inequality; maybe that's just a wider comment on the society I live in.

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #221 on: January 31, 2024, 09:46:09 PM »
It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59  is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.

Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.

I expected the 59 to go at least 750k hammer price.

Yes, the prices are disappointing indeed. As I wrote the previous message I thought, FENDER STRATS OWNED AND USED BY MARK KNOPFLER, his arguably most iconic guitars people associate him with, one of which is a freaking 1/1 artist's prototype, which is even documented in 2009 live shows, all went for 100K minus taxes and commissions or whatever.

Tells you a lot, or probably everything you need to know about Mark's popularity. He wanted to be less famous, he got it, and now we have the numbers to prove it.

Some guitars are ridiculously overpaid so I don't think you can say anything about Mark's popularity. Let alone prove anything.

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #222 on: January 31, 2024, 09:51:27 PM »
It's been interesting to watch. I can't help thinking though after all these sales more should have been given to charity, and yes I'm talking about MKs proportion. I've gone from excited interest to slight disgust at the amounts of money involved, and what money sits behind winning bids.

I'm grateful to have been able to view them for free but the whole exercise provokes feelings of inequality; maybe that's just a wider comment on the society I live in.

Imagine how it feels to watch it from a third-world country. I don't need to imagine :lol

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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #223 on: January 31, 2024, 10:00:36 PM »
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Re: Live Guitar Auction
« Reply #224 on: January 31, 2024, 10:01:56 PM »
Some guitars are ridiculously overpaid so I don't think you can say anything about Mark's popularity. Let alone prove anything.

David Gilmour's black Partcaster which from what I can tell was modified a lot went for almost the entire yield of Mark's auction. He'll generate more with the signed Teenage Cancer Les Paul, but that's cheating.

Mark's guitars, on the other hand, are meticulously crafted and constructed, most of the time with his exact specifications in mind. And then being kept in pristine condition with care, barely showing any playing wear. And used on some great recordings, both video and audio. I don't know what's overpaid where and why one can still argue that Mark is popular when he's not.

You can bet even if Mark put out his other iconic guitars, like the National, it would also generate the "meh" outcome. It would sell for 400 grand just like Pensa.

 

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