As requested by dear dustyvalentino, here's an alternative thread to this thread, where the actual discussion can take place, and not deleting posts and barking at forum members. If somebody agrees to do something, it doesn't mean we need to abandon all our senses, stop dead in our tracks and blindly follow instructions. If we do this, let's do it right, people. It's a possible Q&A with the one and only ED BICKNELL. I repeat, ED BICKNELL. This is not a drill!
First of all, my problem is the 24-hour rule. Do you want to do it properly or just fast? Then, if you want to do it properly, why not give everybody enough time to think about questions, discuss them and come up with good results? I just thought there may be a better way to gather all the questions coming from die-hard members of this forum, people with decades of experience with Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler's music, and a combined knowledge which is expressed in CENTURIES of being fans.
Another major problem. Do you want to start another Q&A thread that only the most loyal fans can find, and that will be lost under replies and new threads just like any other Ed Bicknell / Chris Whitten / Band Member commentary on this forum? Is this the end goal, or maybe there is a better way to do things? Have you ever tried to gather all posts by Ed in one place? It all genuine questions and real problems, and worth discussing. If it's not up to discussion, then I'm out.
Please, prove me wrong here: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8942.0
My man the Quizzical You’re bloody right it’s not a drill. I can only type with one finger. I have tried to accommodate you Quizzy, be gentle with me, you’re about to get a colonic.
Wow, that escalated quickly, which is TOO GOOD. I'll share my question below in a usual "TOO MANY WORDS" style, though I have something more to say even belowER
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Question
If I were to sum up Mark Knopfler in one word, that word would be "Dignity". I'm trying to be objective here, don't mind my usual fanboy appearance and word choice. I'll put it this way... Everything this man touches turns into gold, everything he does he does it with dignity and taste. Everything he's doing publicly is a success story, including dodging fame.
He's got beautiful guitars, his studio is arguably the best in the world, his music is the epitome of taste, he's got a tremendous taste for people and always worked and still works with amazing professionals (John, Ed, Guy, Glenn, Richard, Pick and all the rest of them), the members of his team I was able to speak to through my work are one of the best people I ever worked with.
So my question is this. Certainly, through the years of working with this man and this band, you learned a lot from Mr Knopfler and developed rules, principles and criteria for how to do your work as best as you can. What would be these lessons, how your work with Mark was able to reshape your character, and if it didn't, what do you think are qualities you have that lead to a successful career as a music manager?
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Thoughts
I'm shooting for the stars here, but since Ed turned out to be the funniest and the most honest, respectful and outspoken member of Dire Straits after staying dormant for years, and since, although his writing style is brilliant and we all love it, I'm sure most of us learned about or was reminded of his amazing humour, storytelling and wisdom from YouTube videos and/or Spotify podcasts. Watching his story about Chet Atkins and teeth I laughed so much, my jaw started to hurt.
As a reminder, the AMIT channel on YouTube has almost 30,000 Mark Knopfler fans waiting for content, as well as my channel with 26,000 subscribers. If we can find a decent host, that Q&A could become a great video. Again, I'm dropping this here just as bait, who knows, I see it as a very good opportunity. I'm also a bigger fan of conversations than one-off questions, let alone texting on a forum, so it is IMPOSSIBLE to come up with a single question, but I tried. End of bait.
If I offended anyone here, then just forget about it, erase it from memory Men in Black style, and jump back to the question part.
So my plan is this:
1. Spread the word about Q&A, ask EVERY die-hard MK fan possible about this opportunity
2. Gather all the questions in one place and sort them out (I'm willing to help do this)
3. Send questions to Ed for assessment, figure out how much time it could take
4. If it's too long, then keep dropping questions only keeping the best ones
5. Settle on the format — Text Only / Video / Conversation / Podcast
6. While working on questions, find the best way to execute it
7. DO IT
This is going to hurt
I’m not sure I’d use “dignity" but we are coming from two different perspectives.
You are outside looking in, I am ( or was ) inside looking out.
EVERYTHING turns to gold?
EVERYTHING is a success story?
EVERYTHING is done with dignity and taste?
From your perspective, yes.
No disrespect but MK does not walk on water and there’s no point me trying to persuade you otherwise because you wouldn’t believe me.
As far as “lessons" go, we were 28/29 when we met and I was 52 when I quit , so I like to think we, and the others who lasted most or all of the course, naturally grew together.
I can't isolate what I learned from him or him from me, maybe a lot, maybe nothing.
For the period 1978 to 1988/9 it was pretty much a perfect fit , almost no disagreements I can recall and the music and success propelled us forward, especially after David left.
None of us were analysing what was going on, we were way too busy.
It's only now looking back I can say well X happened or Y was a mistake or I got Z exactly right or whatever.
That period was living the dream and most of all it was FUN.
And often FUNNY, very funny, that sustained us.
Your approach and you're not alone on this forum, seems to be that Mark is some kind of perfect being, the "dignity” bit you use, and that the rest of us or at least me “learned "a lot” from him and “developed” the things you refer to.
I don't remember it like that at all and I bet he doesn’t.
I’ve never thought of it actually., there were "no rules, principles, and criteria", we did whatever was necessary at the time.
I was making it up as I went along. I'm making this up now.
It happened organically, we came from VERY similar backgrounds, from “up North”, we even went to the same music store in Leeds (Kitchens) at the SAME TIME.
Most importantly we both listened to the same stuff…Elvis, Little Richard, Eddie Cochran, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bo Diddley, Buddy Holly, The Shadows (absolutely them), I veered off towards jazz because of drummers, he got into Dylan et al and folk music, guitar picking.
We saw the same films, TV shows, fiddled with girls and were fiddled by them, we both played in bands around Leeds at the same time 1963-5, when The Beatles Stones, Kinks , Animals , Alexis Korner, Chris Barber, blues, classic soul came along, Stax, Motown, Atlantic, Blue Note and on and on.
Strangely we never met or maybe we did. No idea.
We played the same songs ie COVERS…"Green Onions”, “ Wonderful Land”, “ Atlantis” “Twist and Shout” over and over and over.
Just like the tribute bands of today that some of you get so precious about because they just perform stuff by one act be it ABBA or Led Zep or heaven forbid, Dire Straits.
Why not? It's just the same as he and I were doing.
Who gives a fuck? No one is forcing anybody to go and see them.
The DSE are almost as good as the real thing, really tremendous and MK gets the bloody PRS!
So he and I and the whole generation we are part of shared the SAME cultural background which laid the foundations for all the British acts that came through in the 80’s and 90’s.
Pop music is GENERATIONAL and each generation is influenced by what came before.
A successful music manager needs to trust their own instincts of what is right for their act and the personalities within that act, men, women, LGBTQ whatever, they are not robots.
Allow people to make mistakes.
Be honest ( obviously), protect them and yourself and the integrity of the music if it’s got any, NEVER put money first which will invariably backfire, read Don Passman’s book which will tell you way more than you need to know about the technical side ( and wasn’t available to me back then) and most of all keep a sense of humour and proportion about what you’re doing.
NEVER stop being a fan.
I'm going to move on with just one comment.
He is a songwriter, singer and guitarist, father and husband and friend to many and dickhead to a few.
It’s not art. It is disposable pop music, entertainment, show business and it gives huge enjoyment to vast numbers of people and creates a lot of employment but it’s called “pop” music for a reason.
Because it’s popular.
That's the point of it.
And you will never persuade me that the EVERYTHING you say makes it more than that.
Obviously nothing personal, you just flipped one of my switches.
Your plan is a non starter I’m afraid. I’m WAY past wanting to do any of that, this Q and A is the best I can manage.