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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2025, 10:52:33 PM »
Yes, I've wondered about that, too. That black beauty looks like a fantastic guitar, but he didn't use it very often (Ferry Aid/ Let it be and Willy deVille / Storybook Love are the only recordings I can think of right now). I wonder why he didn't like it so much. Any ideas?

And you can watch him play it at the Notting Hillbillies Snape gig on YouTube of course, as you probably know. Sheer beauty!

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he also used it on Vic and Ray (both studio an live)

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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2025, 06:53:34 PM »
Yes, I've wondered about that, too. That black beauty looks like a fantastic guitar, but he didn't use it very often (Ferry Aid/ Let it be and Willy deVille / Storybook Love are the only recordings I can think of right now). I wonder why he didn't like it so much. Any ideas?

And you can watch him play it at the Notting Hillbillies Snape gig on YouTube of course, as you probably know. Sheer beauty!

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he also used it on Vic and Ray (both studio an live)

You're right!
The guitar seems to have a twin sister, in "Porsche purple", which belonged to Jeff Williams. The colour would've looked nice with MK, too!
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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2025, 07:07:27 AM »
I love the contrast here MK & EC - 1987 to 1989, a lot of cool stuff happens during this period as already mentioned here, I love MK's interventions in the songs of the EC set, Mark has a very particular way of playing blues, it's not the traditional way as is usually expected and that's what attracts me, I love how he develops the solo in Crossroad, especially in Badge, in addition to the subtleties in I Shot the Sheriff, among others.

In 1987 things work differently than in 1988, the arrangement changes, the way of approaching the songs, MK with the black Pensa, sometimes with the sunburst Schecter, probably the last year that this guitar was used live by Mark, a shame, it would have been incredible on other tours.
His solo in lay down sally, (from the budokan gig) it’s a study of Chet aktions licks combined by Marks. Really a great solo.

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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2025, 10:22:47 AM »
I love the contrast here MK & EC - 1987 to 1989, a lot of cool stuff happens during this period as already mentioned here, I love MK's interventions in the songs of the EC set, Mark has a very particular way of playing blues, it's not the traditional way as is usually expected and that's what attracts me, I love how he develops the solo in Crossroad, especially in Badge, in addition to the subtleties in I Shot the Sheriff, among others.

In 1987 things work differently than in 1988, the arrangement changes, the way of approaching the songs, MK with the black Pensa, sometimes with the sunburst Schecter, probably the last year that this guitar was used live by Mark, a shame, it would have been incredible on other tours.
His solo in lay down sally, (from the budokan gig) it’s a study of Chet aktions licks combined by Marks. Really a great solo.

you mean this one ?

EC introduces Mark by singing  :)


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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2025, 09:23:03 PM »
The perfect stuff for Mark.
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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2025, 09:30:31 PM »
I am sorry to be a party pooper, but do you really like these shows? I struggle to watch them and listen to them. The versions are too clean cut and they sound safe. But it is just my opinion
Come on, it is not funny anymore.

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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2025, 08:45:32 PM »
I am sorry to be a party pooper, but do you really like these shows? I struggle to watch them and listen to them. The versions are too clean cut and they sound safe. But it is just my opinion

These concerts couldn't be worse.
It's a total mess.

In my opinion, it's one of the worse EC eras along with one of the worse MK playing ever. I'll blame the 80's for that
Mark's tone sounds like a toy. Clapton overshadowing every player on the stage, Alan playing his cheesy synths... Everyone overplaying.

I have talk about this once, but there are people that consider Mark's solo on Badge as a masterpiece, tale, genius, a solo that make Eric jealous.... but, to me, sounds very bad. And he starts playing in the wrong key.

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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2025, 03:04:28 PM »
I quite like some of Mark’s solos on Eric’s songs. Enjoy his playing on Lay down Sally (a great song-Josh Turner’s one man band cover is incredible, find it on YouTube.)

I certainly prefer MK on EC rather than EC on MK songs. Eric soloing on Walk of Life is painful. Playing strat even for rhythm doesn’t work on that song at all.

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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2025, 05:27:06 PM »

I have talk about this once, but there are people that consider Mark's solo on Badge as a masterpiece, tale, genius, a solo that make Eric jealous.... but, to me, sounds very bad. And he starts playing in the wrong key.

fully agree. Mark plays pentatnonic minor D, while Eric plays in major dorian D which is the right way to play it

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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2025, 07:40:22 PM »

I have talk about this once, but there are people that consider Mark's solo on Badge as a masterpiece, tale, genius, a solo that make Eric jealous.... but, to me, sounds very bad. And he starts playing in the wrong key.

fully agree. Mark plays pentatnonic minor D, while Eric plays in major dorian D which is the right way to play it

Playing the minor scale over a major chord progression isn’t wrong, it’s bluesy. Mixing the two together is guitar heaven. That being said, I love every single bit of those concerts, that band is the best Eric’s had in my opinion. And yes, it was very 1980s, maybe because… they were in the 1980s? 😄
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Re: MK with EC
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2025, 11:59:35 AM »

Playing the minor scale over a major chord progression isn’t wrong, it’s bluesy.

yes of course  :)  but its' not the musical flavour in Badge if you listen to the original version, and all other versions played live by EC, e.g. in 85 with Tim Renwick on 2nd guitar

 

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