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Author Topic: A Modern Tribute to Dire Straits – AI Creates an Original Track with Knopfler’s  (Read 10638 times)

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In my admittedly limited experience of uploading stuff to youtube, their software is VERY good at picking up even the slightest bit of copyrighted material.

I once made an unlisted video of me playing Country Roads on an acoustic guitar to show my bandmates the chords we would be using and youtube recognised the track and copyrighted it!

It also recognised MK at Boothbay when I used part of the bootleg for a video I uploaded, even though that's never been released...

Interesting. But are we too rely on the Youtube or Spotify (tech companies) AI algorithm to determine what is a “cover”, what is a new song, what infringes on other people copyright or intellectual work in future? Maybe that is the way it’s going. Maybe AI decides that as well. Seems to have potential to be a bit biased to me though. Judge, jury, and executioner?

Could well be. Just checked the last video I uploaded and it "recognised" another local band playing Ghost Riders in the Sky as supposedly being a bootleg of The Highwaymen from 1990 and also recognised the melody of us doing Have You Ever Seen The Rain by CCR.

My originals appeared to have escaped scrutiny though. :) I wonder if it would flag Brothers in Arms as Bird of Paradise  :hmm  ;)
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As well pointed before, inspired by and new ‘version’ are two completely different things. I don’t think artists can do much about people using AI to ‘recreate’ their songs other than collecting copyrights. As for the ‘inspired by’ stuff I’m sure they can work something out with the authorities the only problem being anyone can use AI to create a DS like song without mentioning it’s inspired by DS.

At the end of the day AI is as new as it gets to us, normal people. It’ll take a while to be reasonably understood, accepted and accessible to society as a whole. In the meantime many people will benefit a lot from the lack of regulations but at some point it’ll be done. I just hope we find a good balance because AI can be a very good thing when properly used.
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"I just hope we find a good balance because AI can be a very good thing when properly used"

And this is the quintessence of the whole topic.
(But I don't want AI in music)
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(But I don't want AI in music)

It has its uses in music. They used it to great effect on The Beatles remasters.
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(But I don't want AI in music)

It has its uses in music. They used it to great effect on The Beatles remasters.

and it helped to separate John's voice from room and piano for the song "now and then"

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(But I don't want AI in music)

It has its uses in music. They used it to great effect on The Beatles remasters.

and it helped to separate John's voice from room and piano for the song "now and then"

And to do the atmos mix of "where do you think you are going" from the MFN compilation.

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I know, I know. But without AI, it wouldn't be possible? Did AI help with the first Money For Nothing compilation?
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I know, I know. But without AI, it wouldn't be possible? Did AI help with the first Money For Nothing compilation?

First compilation wasn't Atmos.

Compare Lennon's vocal on Now and Then with Free as a Bird from 30 years ago, night and day (it's rumoured that they are re-releasing FAAB with AI enhanced vocals).

The Beatles stereo remixes wouldn't be possible without AI.
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This is a big task to politics and people to say what is acceptable and what is not.


 


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(But I don't want AI in music)

It has its uses in music. They used it to great effect on The Beatles remasters.

and it helped to separate John's voice from room and piano for the song "now and then"

And to do the atmos mix of "where do you think you are going" from the MFN compilation.


Could you explain a little more about what the AI did in "Where do you think you are going" from the MFN compilation? That part slipped my mind.
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I know, I know. But without AI, it wouldn't be possible? Did AI help with the first Money For Nothing compilation?

First compilation wasn't Atmos.

Compare Lennon's vocal on Now and Then with Free as a Bird from 30 years ago, night and day (it's rumoured that they are re-releasing FAAB with AI enhanced vocals).

The Beatles stereo remixes wouldn't be possible without AI.

I don't want to be ignorant and I'm not sure I understand correctly. Can Atmos exist without Al.?
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It's never all bad is it?
AI has incredible medical capabilities for example.
However, millions of jibs WILL be replaced by AI. Huge data centres that consume gallons of water and megawatts of electricity are being builtallover the UK. And tech companies are training AI using human created music to REPLACE human created music.
So the goal here is not to trash AI, the goal is to steer governments to protect jobs and the arts, while encouraging science to use AI for the good humanity. Not to make a tiny handful of tech barons even more crazily wealthy.

I made my point at the beginning of this topic to say we shouldn't be reposting AI created music, even to laugh at it. It is the future, only if we stand by and let it happen.

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I agree with Chris. We shouldn't give publicity to AI created music.

We are fans of music, REAL music.


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I agree with Chris. We shouldn't give publicity to AI created music.

We are fans of music, REAL music.

Exactly!
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Totally agree, WE are fans of REAL music. Made by people with heart and soul. And that's what is all about.
Even if one day they will call us dinosaurs. ;D
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