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OfflineBrunno Nunes

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Re: Pick Withers Live - 78 and 81. A Musical Analysis.
« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2025, 11:36:54 PM »
I cannot let the comments on my reply to Brunno’s response 76 go by without comment.

Firstly, I note that Brunno himself hasn’t commented on what I said even though I was DIRECTLY answering the points he raised in 76 ie about David K’s role on live appearances.
What I said is entirely correct, not exaggerated and was not intended to be a comment on DK’s abilities as a guitarist which is subjective anyway.
Hello Brunno..are you there? Ok I hope.


Dear Ed, here I am again, first to thank you for your reply. I truly appreciate your sense of humor; it's unique and contagious, and it shines through in your answers eloquently.👌

You brought up facts completely unknown even to avid fans like most of you here (I wouldn't expect anything less, after all, we're interacting with you, who's been there for the band's entire career). Something invaluable for anyone wanting to understand more about DS's trajectory.

But, to recap, I had asked a question: "What would have added more musically: Hal's dynamism or the sound the brothers create together on stage?"
Your answer was absolutely convincing. It's clear to everyone that maintaining that musical approach wouldn't have worked, and that in 1980 you were determined to change things, and history shows that
you were right. But your explanation when you mentioned 4 and 3 left me a little uneasy, and I'll explain:

I'm a fan who might seem crazy to someone in your position, as well as to the band members, but I went far beyond the official DS albums; in fact, I specialized in bootlegs as soon as I acquired all the official albums. Dire Straits' music, especially the original lineup, led me to the guitar. Those first two albums are my favorites, they're the reason I became a guitarist, i simply love those two albums more than anything they've ever done, consequently, I searched for every bootleg recording I could from the first two tours (I did the same with all the other tours, and believe me, there are many here who did the same. The website On Every Bootleg has always been our oracle when it comes to bootleg information). There are something very close to 30 recordings made from the audience between 1978 and 1979, i have them all, and believe me, I've listened to them with great enthusiasm countless times. They're all available on YouTube today. I've always connected with the live guitar sound between MK and DK, as well as the format of the live versions, i love following the evolution of each song over time (for me, it's part of the charm of their sound). Live at the BBC was just my starting point, but well-recorded audience shows like Leeds (January '78), Dallas (March '79), or New York (September '79) are examples that have always fascinated me. The rhythm guitars blend beautifully for me in these recordings. I could name other recordings, but it's not necessary. I won't mention things like Rockpalast '79 or Chorus TV '78, which are soundboard recordings. That's why I was struck by your comment, "when you mentioned 4 and 3."

I'm not doubting what you said one iota. After all, what are almost 26 recordings for something close to 300 shows between 77 and 79? And you experienced this whole adventure up close

But the thrust of the initial question: "What would have added more musically: Hal's dynamism or the sound the brothers create together on stage?" is also relating to something present in the aforementioned BBC documentary made in 2005. D talks about synergy on stage, something he and M had, almost like telepathy. According to D, because they were brothers, they could communicate with each other with a gesture so subtle that no one else would know what it meant. Now, this can be very good on one hand and very bad on the other, as he points out in the video. But, judging by the videos of the original lineup, watching DS at Rockpalast 79 or some of the songs from the show at the Rainbow Theatre 79 and the BBC Arena 80, We can see what D mentions in the documentary, in several songs, the most striking example of which for me is in the song "Wild West End." Any video of them playing that song shows this synergy between them on stage. Okay, you or anyone might think I'm being romantic,🫠🤡 and that may be true, but I don't think it's a delusion to say what I've said based on the facts I've presented. (If it is delusional, then I'd better consult a psychologist.)👽

The fact is that for me, since he having somehow participated in the creative process of the songs on the first two albums, directly or indirectly, it's clear to me that D was the most important guitarist to play alongside MK in DS, from a historical standpoint. He's a founding member, and he collaborated with M on songs ("What's the Matter Baby"), we know that they recorded this song in 1979, along with Solid Rock and Twisting by the Pool. Although this material has been archived to this day, I won't judge its quality, i personally like the sound of these song live, and the only person who owns this studio recording spoke highly of the version, "What's the matter studio baby", anyway, taste is subjective, I know.
I apologize a thousand, five thousand times for saying I could hear D's guitar sound as well as an ALSACIAN through those recordings I mentioned. I hope you're immune to any David-ticulitis,🤢 after all, I ended up talking much more about myself and my experience with DS's music and those recordings. Fan stuff, we're so silly, aren't we?🤘🏻 But this nonsense often makes our day, brings us great joy, just imagine... I'm talking on a forum with a living legend, the man who managed the career of the band I love most in my life, this is surreal... 😱 the internet works miracles, let no one doubt it.

Ed, may God always shower you with blessings. 🙏🏻Thank you for everything, for pull my rug when I was a fool and for being so kind in responding to me and everyone here.😉

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Re: Pick Withers Live - 78 and 81. A Musical Analysis.
« Reply #91 on: Today at 12:16:15 AM »
I cannot let the comments on my reply to Brunno’s response 76 go by without comment.

Firstly, I note that Brunno himself hasn’t commented on what I said even though I was DIRECTLY answering the points he raised in 76 ie about David K’s role on live appearances.
What I said is entirely correct, not exaggerated and was not intended to be a comment on DK’s abilities as a guitarist which is subjective anyway.
Hello Brunno..are you there? Ok I hope.


Dear Ed, here I am again, first to thank you for your reply. I truly appreciate your sense of humor; it's unique and contagious, and it shines through in your answers eloquently.👌

You brought up facts completely unknown even to avid fans like most of you here (I wouldn't expect anything less, after all, we're interacting with you, who's been there for the band's entire career). Something invaluable for anyone wanting to understand more about DS's trajectory.

But, to recap, I had asked a question: "What would have added more musically: Hal's dynamism or the sound the brothers create together on stage?"
Your answer was absolutely convincing. It's clear to everyone that maintaining that musical approach wouldn't have worked, and that in 1980 you were determined to change things, and history shows that
you were right. But your explanation when you mentioned 4 and 3 left me a little uneasy, and I'll explain:

I'm a fan who might seem crazy to someone in your position, as well as to the band members, but I went far beyond the official DS albums; in fact, I specialized in bootlegs as soon as I acquired all the official albums. Dire Straits' music, especially the original lineup, led me to the guitar. Those first two albums are my favorites, they're the reason I became a guitarist, i simply love those two albums more than anything they've ever done, consequently, I searched for every bootleg recording I could from the first two tours (I did the same with all the other tours, and believe me, there are many here who did the same. The website On Every Bootleg has always been our oracle when it comes to bootleg information). There are something very close to 30 recordings made from the audience between 1978 and 1979, i have them all, and believe me, I've listened to them with great enthusiasm countless times. They're all available on YouTube today. I've always connected with the live guitar sound between MK and DK, as well as the format of the live versions, i love following the evolution of each song over time (for me, it's part of the charm of their sound). Live at the BBC was just my starting point, but well-recorded audience shows like Leeds (January '78), Dallas (March '79), or New York (September '79) are examples that have always fascinated me. The rhythm guitars blend beautifully for me in these recordings. I could name other recordings, but it's not necessary. I won't mention things like Rockpalast '79 or Chorus TV '78, which are soundboard recordings. That's why I was struck by your comment, "when you mentioned 4 and 3."

I'm not doubting what you said one iota. After all, what are almost 26 recordings for something close to 300 shows between 77 and 79? And you experienced this whole adventure up close

But the thrust of the initial question: "What would have added more musically: Hal's dynamism or the sound the brothers create together on stage?" is also relating to something present in the aforementioned BBC documentary made in 2005. D talks about synergy on stage, something he and M had, almost like telepathy. According to D, because they were brothers, they could communicate with each other with a gesture so subtle that no one else would know what it meant. Now, this can be very good on one hand and very bad on the other, as he points out in the video. But, judging by the videos of the original lineup, watching DS at Rockpalast 79 or some of the songs from the show at the Rainbow Theatre 79 and the BBC Arena 80, We can see what D mentions in the documentary, in several songs, the most striking example of which for me is in the song "Wild West End." Any video of them playing that song shows this synergy between them on stage. Okay, you or anyone might think I'm being romantic,🫠🤡 and that may be true, but I don't think it's a delusion to say what I've said based on the facts I've presented. (If it is delusional, then I'd better consult a psychologist.)👽

The fact is that for me, since he having somehow participated in the creative process of the songs on the first two albums, directly or indirectly, it's clear to me that D was the most important guitarist to play alongside MK in DS, from a historical standpoint. He's a founding member, and he collaborated with M on songs ("What's the Matter Baby"), we know that they recorded this song in 1979, along with Solid Rock and Twisting by the Pool. Although this material has been archived to this day, I won't judge its quality, i personally like the sound of these song live, and the only person who owns this studio recording spoke highly of the version, "What's the matter studio baby", anyway, taste is subjective, I know.
I apologize a thousand, five thousand times for saying I could hear D's guitar sound as well as an ALSACIAN through those recordings I mentioned. I hope you're immune to any David-ticulitis,🤢 after all, I ended up talking much more about myself and my experience with DS's music and those recordings. Fan stuff, we're so silly, aren't we?🤘🏻 But this nonsense often makes our day, brings us great joy, just imagine... I'm talking on a forum with a living legend, the man who managed the career of the band I love most in my life, this is surreal... 😱 the internet works miracles, let no one doubt it.

Ed, may God always shower you with blessings. 🙏🏻Thank you for everything, for pull my rug when I was a fool and for being so kind in responding to me and everyone here.😉

I realized I wrote almost 1/3 of the Bible, my God, I'm sorry, guys.
Let's go down to the waterline!

my blog : https://universodirestraits.blogspot.com

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Re: Pick Withers Live - 78 and 81. A Musical Analysis.
« Reply #92 on: Today at 01:26:08 AM »
"I'm talking on a forum with a living legend, the man who managed the career of the band I love most in my life, this is surreal... 😱 the internet works miracles, let no one doubt it"

Yes, this is amazing. Is this really happening?  :)
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