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Offlinekoobaa

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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2009, 03:21:47 PM »
Since Guy started describing what IEM are in his Tour Diaries, I always wondered what kind of sound / mix it is that they hear, so it was VERY interesting to listen to such a recording and I enjoyed it a lot. The 2001 LA show is one of my favorites, and it sounds pretty good to me, actually better than some of SDB recordings from that tour. I treat this recording as a curiosity but I understand the band's view too.
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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 03:51:26 PM »
IEM recording is the worst recording. I have 1 IEM recording from the last U2 tour and you can hear a computer voice counting down from 10 to 1. And thru the whole song that computer voice is saying when to start a song and when the bass comes in etc etc.

I prefer audience recording to feel the concert atmosphere.

That's very interesting. Shows that a U2 show is hardly "live" at all, just pre-programmed for them to play along with and fit in with light shows etc. With MK there is scope for improvisation and change, even if it doesn't happen very often.

Also, as far as I am aware, nobody knows for sure if Boothbay was IEM.

If anyone is interested in how it sounds. I think it is terrible, it is Mono and during the whole song you can hear some sort of shaking instrument to give the tempo for Adam. This IEM is from the bassplayer and it is not made by me.

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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2009, 03:55:15 PM »
The 2001 LA show is one of my favorites, and it sounds pretty good to me....

very nice recording indeed  ;)

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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2009, 05:29:14 PM »
If anyone is interested in how it sounds. I think it is terrible, it is Mono and during the whole song you can hear some sort of shaking instrument to give the tempo for Adam. This IEM is from the bassplayer and it is not made by me.

http://rapidshare.com/files/308785272/03-Breathe.flac.html

Just like I thought, it IS indeed terrible... :-\

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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2009, 06:28:39 PM »
If anyone is interested in how it sounds. I think it is terrible, it is Mono and during the whole song you can hear some sort of shaking instrument to give the tempo for Adam. This IEM is from the bassplayer and it is not made by me.

http://rapidshare.com/files/308785272/03-Breathe.flac.html

Just like I thought, it IS indeed terrible... :-\

Yes you are right. If you listen to the same recording from audience it sounds much better.
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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2009, 04:47:56 AM »
"Tits up"?      Suppose that's like "belly up." ;D
I was just going to post that this was the first I'd heard that Boothbay was iem.    But it's the first time I've heard "tits up."     Regional?   Is there an alternate gender version?
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Re: Wireless Recordings
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 08:44:49 AM »
Well, sort of. When something has gone wrong, it has gone "tits up". Sligtly different, butwhen you make a mistake you could call it a "cock up" or a "balls up". But you wouldn't say that it's "gone cock up", you would say "That was a cock up."

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Re: Recordings
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 08:21:30 PM »
I think if the recording is good or not has something to do with the way it`s recorded for instance the LA 2001 recording sounds great, I have several U2 IEM`S and a lot of them sound crap.
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Re: Recordings
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2010, 06:32:31 PM »
Nice editing of the subject, by the way.

Most of my curiosity regarding about this kind of recording has more to do with the fact that to record the whole show with an IEM recorder you should know the frequency of the actual IEM you want to record, or at least to know one of the frequencies being used, and that means you have to scan before the show beguins...

How that is done by those who record the shows in that way?

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Re: Recordings
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2010, 11:57:43 PM »
I am perplexed as to why it is thought that the IEM recordings are made wirelessly. It is quite simple to take a line out from the soundboard of the actual IEM mix and record it that way (if you are friends with the engineer that is!).

IEM mixes are purely for each individual band member and are not made for recording. They act as prompts, keep time and also allow the musicians to hear how they sound. There is no need for them to be of a high enough quality to enable recording so when people say they sound terrible - that is actually how they were probably meant to sound and therefore to the on-stage musician they actually sound good!  :)

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Re: Recordings
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2010, 12:00:36 AM »
I am perplexed as to why it is thought that the IEM recordings are made wirelessly. It is quite simple to take a line out from the soundboard of the actual IEM mix and record it that way (if you are friends with the engineer that is!).

I can't imagine most of the fans are friends with the sound engineer... Therefore, the only possibility for IEM recordings is wireless...

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Re: Recordings
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2010, 02:14:35 AM »
I presume you are still looking for answers via PM jbaent, as you originally said you were...as the people with the information you are fishing for would never post it here on the open forum.
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Re: Recordings
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2010, 02:50:48 PM »
I presume you are still looking for answers via PM jbaent, as you originally said you were...as the people with the information you are fishing for would never post it here on the open forum.

Dan, You are always so sharp  ;)

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Re: Recordings
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2010, 04:49:39 PM »
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Re: Recordings
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2010, 07:18:32 PM »
If no one has friends on the mixing desk where does one think all the soundboard recordings come from? An IEM feed from the soundboard is no different to taking a live mix feed from it too. That's all i was getting at.

Every bootleg that came via a soundboard in the history of music came via an unscrupulous sound technician :)

 

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