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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Local Hero Musical => Topic started by: skydiver on February 18, 2022, 11:18:43 AM

Title: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 18, 2022, 11:18:43 AM
I don't know how reliable this is:

"This production has now been postponed until 2023 – with full dates to be announced."

https://www.westendtheatre.com/66017/shows/local-hero-tickets/

If this is true, this would be another hope gone for 2022.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 18, 2022, 11:27:02 AM
I don't know how reliable this is:

"This production has now been postponed until 2023 – with full dates to be announced."

https://www.westendtheatre.com/66017/shows/local-hero-tickets/

If this is true, this would be another hope gone for 2022.

It's the Old Vic site, so yes, I bet it is realiable.

We are having information on it very soon, before March, can't say more about this, sorry.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 18, 2022, 11:28:44 AM
Even if it is postponed for yet another year till 2023 it leaves room for speculation that it could go ahead at The Old Vic after all.
Which would be quite nice since it's a charming and intimate little theatre.
And they are constructing a stylish new "Annex".
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 18, 2022, 11:38:25 AM
Even if it is postponed for yet another year till 2023 it leaves room for speculation that it could go ahead at The Old Vic after all.

Old Vic site annouces some plays until July 9th 2022 so I had hope that next on schedule was Local Hero, I hope there are, as I noticed that the link you sent is not really from the Old Vic (my fault) but refers to it.

Old Vic web doesn't mention anything about 2023, yet. If other tickets sites are talking about that, I fear they are right, and we'll have to wait another year, but the good news is they are coming back.

We will know in hopefully a week.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 18, 2022, 12:04:29 PM
What can be read on the website of the production company NEAL STREET does also not exclude a run at The Old Vic:

"A transfer to the Old Vic, London, originally planned for summer of 2020 was postponed due to the Coronavirus pandemic. Future plans for the production will be announced in due course."

https://www.nealstreetproductions.com/theatre/local-hero
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 18, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
What can be read on the website of the production company NEAL STREET does also not exclude a run at The Old Vic:

"A transfer to the Old Vic, London, originally planned for summer of 2020 was postponed due to the Coronavirus pandemic. Future plans for the production will be announced in due course."

https://www.nealstreetproductions.com/theatre/local-hero

From what Guy was telling at his forum, I understood than they would be moving the musical to other theatre, specially since the Old Vic didn't postponed it, but cancelled, but it makes sense that it's the Old Vic who host it, as from the beguining it was a co-production of the Lyceum in Edinburgh and the Old Vic in London.

Also when the Old Vic called the people to return the money of the tickets, they said to many people, including me, that they wanted to have it back when the pandemic allows them to host a play with so many people on stage.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 18, 2022, 01:47:41 PM
I just noticed that Local Hero comes 40 years in 2023!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Robson on February 18, 2022, 02:24:23 PM
I just noticed that Local Hero comes 40 years in 2023!

Good point!
March 31.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dmg on February 19, 2022, 01:59:12 PM
I just noticed that Local Hero comes 40 years in 2023!

The film or the musical?
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 19, 2022, 03:04:38 PM
I just noticed that Local Hero comes 40 years in 2023!

The film or the musical?

You must be joking, don't you?

Lol
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dmg on February 20, 2022, 04:58:09 PM
I just noticed that Local Hero comes 40 years in 2023!

The film or the musical?

You must be joking, don't you?

Lol

The postponements make it seem 40 years!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 21, 2022, 10:22:33 AM
Really seems like a long time since I saw it.

Literally a different world now.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2022, 10:32:25 AM
I just noticed that Local Hero comes 40 years in 2023!

The film or the musical?

You must be joking, don't you?

Lol

The postponements make it seem 40 years!

Now I get the joke, lol

You are very right, DMG, seems really a long time ago!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 21, 2022, 01:04:49 PM
I sent an email to the Old Vic, refering to that site that says it will come back on 2023, and the Old Vic says that they cancelled the show, and it's not returning to their stage.

So it look likes it would finally be back on another theater!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 21, 2022, 03:02:50 PM
I sent an email to the Old Vic, refering to that site that says it will come back on 2023, and the Old Vic says that they cancelled the show, and it's not returning to their stage.

So it look likes it would finally be back on another theater!

Thanks for the info and for asking them.
That keeps up the suspense.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 22, 2022, 11:55:50 AM
It´s been a quite morning at work so I spend some minutes (very few, actually) looking at in which theaters Neal Productions use to have their plays, and looking at their capacities, and found that the most likely theaters for Local Hero might be these:

National Theatre (has different theaters inside with various capacities)

Garrick Theatre

Harold Pinter Theatre

Let's see if it's any of these three or another one.

LOL
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 25, 2022, 08:03:47 AM
We are having information on it very soon, before March, can't say more about this, sorry.


Do you mean maybe later today we will have some news?
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 25, 2022, 09:46:58 AM
We are having information on it very soon, before March, can't say more about this, sorry.


Do you mean maybe later today we will have some news?

As far as I know, before this month ends, but the theatre people have their own time, so who knows if they delay the anouncement one more month  :smack
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on February 25, 2022, 11:50:13 AM
We are having information on it very soon, before March, can't say more about this, sorry.


Do you mean maybe later today we will have some news?

As far as I know, before this month ends, but the theatre people have their own time, so who knows if they delay the anouncement one more month  :smack

No problem. After more than a year we are used to "very soon" being delayed month after month.  ;D
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 28, 2022, 11:07:29 AM
We are having information on it very soon, before March, can't say more about this, sorry.


Do you mean maybe later today we will have some news?

As far as I know, before this month ends, but the theatre people have their own time, so who knows if they delay the anouncement one more month  :smack

No problem. After more than a year we are used to "very soon" being delayed month after month.  ;D

Yes, but after so many time waiting for news, I hoped the waiting for news was over... today is still February, lol, who knows.

I recall when the Edinburgh shows were already announced but still working on it, that Guy kind of complained about how difficult and slow were the schedules and way of work in the theatre world in comparation with music, I guess there are difficulties like that to announce the London run and we would have to wait even more, but hey, what can we do except wait?
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dmg on February 28, 2022, 01:58:03 PM


I recall when the Edinburgh shows were already announced but still working on it, that Guy kind of complained about how difficult and slow were the schedules and way of work in the theatre world in comparation with music, I guess there are difficulties like that to announce the London run and we would have to wait even more, but hey, what can we do except wait?

Guy complained that theatre schedules moved slower than they do in the world of music did he?  :o :o  I'd be aghast if they move slower than Mark and Guy do.  ::)
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on February 28, 2022, 02:12:52 PM


I recall when the Edinburgh shows were already announced but still working on it, that Guy kind of complained about how difficult and slow were the schedules and way of work in the theatre world in comparation with music, I guess there are difficulties like that to announce the London run and we would have to wait even more, but hey, what can we do except wait?

Guy complained that theatre schedules moved slower than they do in the world of music did he?  :o :o  I'd be aghast if they move slower than Mark and Guy do.  ::)

Not complained exactly, but kind of. He said something in that way but it wasn't a direct complaint... Imagine how that would be, if MK and him are slowly.

Actually, they recorded DTRW during the gaps of time of the musical!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 01, 2022, 10:24:55 AM
A friend of mine explained me a bit of how this theatre things works, and looks there is something we didn't considered yet.

Competition.

I guess that would be something in the West End things but, theaters are pretty close one from another, and they have to compete with the others and what they have on their schedule, so quite often, theaters would announce their plays or schedule them in competition with the rest of theaters, sometime to confront, sometime to avoid that confrontation...

That might be the reason why Local Hero wasn't announced yet. When it was at the Old Vic that wasn't a big issue as that theatre is not in the West End but close to Waterloo station, and it is an independent and charity theatre, but if the musical is going to other theatre that it's on the West End circuit, or have competition close, they might be holding the announcement for the right moment.

Quite an interesting world.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on March 01, 2022, 11:47:40 AM
Thanks for your further input.
We can all think of many reasons why one can't release specific details about the premiere performance of the musial or the album release.
However it would have been a fine move towards us fans to tell us in autumn 2021 (when it became obvious) that neither the album nor the musical will see the light of day in 2022.
That would not have left many of us disappointed for 2022 by repeating during 2021 "info coming very soon".
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 01, 2022, 11:56:02 AM
Thanks for your further input.
We can all think of many reasons why one can't release specific details about the premiere performance of the musial or the album release.
However it would have been a fine move towards us fans to tell us in autumn 2021 (when it became obvious) that neither the album nor the musical will see the light of day in 2022.
That would not have left many of us disappointed for 2022 by repeating during 2021 "info coming very soon".

I still have hopes that the musical could happen in 2022. The new Mk record won't be out until 2023, Guy himself said it makes sense 2023 for that release, and probably the recording, mixing etc would be done around May-June, so that makes me think they have something on their agenda for the rest of 2022, and that could be end the recordings for the Local Hero musical cd (they had recorded already some of the actors singing their songs, like Damian Humbley "Rocks and water") on time for a hopefully autumm-winter 2022 season!

Just trying to be positive.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2022, 10:08:35 AM
Anouncement today. Not for London, but for Chichester

https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8062.new#new
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on March 03, 2022, 10:10:47 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Knopflerfan on March 03, 2022, 10:20:11 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Who knows?
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2022, 10:24:51 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Considering this is for October-November 2022, and Local Hero in London probably will run for two or more months, I guess that would be in 2023.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on March 03, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Considering this is for October-November 2022, and Local Hero in London probably will run for two or more months, I guess that would be in 2023.

Since the CFT has a section on its site called "CFT IN LONDON AND ON TOUR" it could well be that they transfer it to London in 2023.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2022, 10:55:33 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Considering this is for October-November 2022, and Local Hero in London probably will run for two or more months, I guess that would be in 2023.

Since the CFT has a section on its site called "CFT IN LONDON AND ON TOUR" it could well be that they transfer it to London in 2023.

Where did you see that?
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on March 03, 2022, 11:03:17 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Considering this is for October-November 2022, and Local Hero in London probably will run for two or more months, I guess that would be in 2023.

Since the CFT has a section on its site called "CFT IN LONDON AND ON TOUR" it could well be that they transfer it to London in 2023.

Where did you see that?

https://www.cft.org.uk/cft-in-london-and-on-tour
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2022, 11:07:25 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Considering this is for October-November 2022, and Local Hero in London probably will run for two or more months, I guess that would be in 2023.

Since the CFT has a section on its site called "CFT IN LONDON AND ON TOUR" it could well be that they transfer it to London in 2023.

Where did you see that?

https://www.cft.org.uk/cft-in-london-and-on-tour

Of, Thank you.

It's weird they are doing Chichester in October and November this year, when everyone was waiting for London, i wonder what's the story behind this...
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on March 03, 2022, 11:15:35 AM
Finally some news!
The question is whether no London at all or London in 2023?

Considering this is for October-November 2022, and Local Hero in London probably will run for two or more months, I guess that would be in 2023.

Since the CFT has a section on its site called "CFT IN LONDON AND ON TOUR" it could well be that they transfer it to London in 2023.

Where did you see that?

https://www.cft.org.uk/cft-in-london-and-on-tour

Of, Thank you.

It's weird they are doing Chichester in October and November this year, when everyone was waiting for London, i wonder what's the story behind this...

Yeah, my thoughts, too.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 03, 2022, 11:50:32 AM
Maybe can't get a theatre in London, or maybe the theatres in London aren't interesting.

I'm sure Chichester is a lovely place but the show going ahead there instead of the theatre prestige of the West End is a real come down.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2022, 12:39:17 PM
Maybe can't get a theatre in London, or maybe the theatres in London aren't interesting.

I'm sure Chichester is a lovely place but the show going ahead there instead of the theatre prestige of the West End is a real come down.

Yes, it is.

My guess is, like you say, they tried to get a theatre in London but they couldn't as many of them are bringing back what they had to postpone after the pandemic, or they could but very late in 2023, and they wanted to bring it back before, and as Guy lives nearby Chichester, he managed to bring the musical to Chichester, try to get good critics and help bringing it to London, or if they already have dates for London 2023, getting back the actors, musicians etc to the play, before their run in London.

They would do some promotion so we might read something on press these days, hopefully they would reveal something more.

The people involved, some of them, are different from the Edinburgh run, the cast is not reveled yet.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 03, 2022, 05:33:48 PM
Maybe can't get a theatre in London, or maybe the theatres in London aren't interesting.

I'm sure Chichester is a lovely place but the show going ahead there instead of the theatre prestige of the West End is a real come down.
Chichester is a lovely place, I would personally prefer to go there than London. I wonder if it is a bit like the limited run in Edinburgh and a warm up for London. I have no idea how theatres work so I am probably completely wrong.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: goon525 on March 03, 2022, 05:33:59 PM
Actually, Chichester has a strong reputation, probably a better one than some of the London theatres. It’s slightly surprising news, but not exactly bad news.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 08, 2022, 08:52:51 AM
The expectation from the Chichester show made me remember the Sting musical, The Last Ship, and spend an afternoon free at home to watch the concert Sting gave with some actors to present his musical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-253J9sQQ&list=PLy5UXH4rXBaH3T3Efjw9RCV8UjSj5OUwA

After watch it, I was thinking it would be possible to MK and his band to do a similar thing, in a theater, playing the songs, even singing some of them, and maybe it could be...

I mean, I can imagine the musicians in one corner, MK, John McCusker, Ianto, Guy, a bass player (Ewan Vernel?) and an acordionist (Ian Lothian? Donald Shaw?) playing the songs, while in the middle of the stage, you have the main actors and at the other corner, the red cabin.

These are the songs, and I think MK could sing himelf some of the songs, introducing the emotional state of the character before singing it, like Sting does:

Act I

    "A Barrel Of Crude" - Company
    "Houston We Have A Problem" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "We're Going To Make A Killing" - Company
    "What A Life" - Ben - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Filthy Dirty Rich" - Gordon, Stella and Company
    "Rocks And Water" - Stella - MK COULD SING THIS ONE, AS THERE IS A VERSION RECORDED IN WHICH IS MAC WHO SINGS IT
    "That'd Do Me" - Company
    "Big Mac" - Iain, Viktor and Company
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" - Mistress Fraser and Company
    "Lone Star State" - Viktor

Act II

    "Never Felt Better" - Company
    "Cheerio Away You Go" - Ben and Stella
    "Get A Move On"- Company
    "Numbers"- Stella and Mac
    "All The Things That We Do" - Company Women
    "In An Ideal Word" - Mac and Gordon
    "Game Over" - Stella
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again (reprise)" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Aiming For The Stars" - Ben and Company - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Going Home"

I think it could make a good live performance, involving MK, that can be recorded and release it on dvd/BR, same way that Sting did with his Last Ship one.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on August 08, 2022, 09:58:57 AM
His last album flopped so there won't be any BR/DVD releases from MK anytime soon.
Why do you think they have started (re)releasing the older stuff on a regular basis?
The only product that MK can now sell is his older stuff.
This could be good news because without touring income he'll "need" to bring in some "new" money so we might actually get some deluxe editions.
MK is like supporting a team doomed to relegation-it's the hope that kills you.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 08, 2022, 10:05:44 AM
His last album flopped so there won't be any BR/DVD releases from MK anytime soon.
Why do you think they have started (re)releasing the older stuff on a regular basis?
The only product that MK can now sell is his older stuff.
This could be good news because without touring income he'll "need" to bring in some "new" money so we might actually get some deluxe editions.
MK is like supporting a team doomed to relegation-it's the hope that kills you.

Any evidence that the ;ast album "flopped"?
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 08, 2022, 10:33:04 AM
Well, they already said a cd release of the Local Hero musical cast would be done, so a live gig like the one I suggested would be great for a deluxe edition, and also very nice to see him playing live again, and playing live himself that wonderful songs to the fans.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on August 08, 2022, 10:54:52 AM
His last album flopped so there won't be any BR/DVD releases from MK anytime soon.
Why do you think they have started (re)releasing the older stuff on a regular basis?
The only product that MK can now sell is his older stuff.
This could be good news because without touring income he'll "need" to bring in some "new" money so we might actually get some deluxe editions.
MK is like supporting a team doomed to relegation-it's the hope that kills you.

Any evidence that the ;ast album "flopped"?
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on August 08, 2022, 10:55:45 AM
Well, they already said a cd release of the Local Hero musical cast would be done, so a live gig like the one I suggested would be great for a deluxe edition, and also very nice to see him playing live again, and playing live himself that wonderful songs to the fans.
I agree it would be very nice but......
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Robson on August 08, 2022, 11:21:07 AM
The expectation from the Chichester show made me remember the Sting musical, The Last Ship, and spend an afternoon free at home to watch the concert Sting gave with some actors to present his musical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-253J9sQQ&list=PLy5UXH4rXBaH3T3Efjw9RCV8UjSj5OUwA

After watch it, I was thinking it would be possible to MK and his band to do a similar thing, in a theater, playing the songs, even singing some of them, and maybe it could be...

I mean, I can imagine the musicians in one corner, MK, John McCusker, Ianto, Guy, a bass player (Ewan Vernel?) and an acordionist (Ian Lothian? Donald Shaw?) playing the songs, while in the middle of the stage, you have the main actors and at the other corner, the red cabin.

These are the songs, and I think MK could sing himelf some of the songs, introducing the emotional state of the character before singing it, like Sting does:

Act I

    "A Barrel Of Crude" - Company
    "Houston We Have A Problem" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "We're Going To Make A Killing" - Company
    "What A Life" - Ben - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Filthy Dirty Rich" - Gordon, Stella and Company
    "Rocks And Water" - Stella - MK COULD SING THIS ONE, AS THERE IS A VERSION RECORDED IN WHICH IS MAC WHO SINGS IT
    "That'd Do Me" - Company
    "Big Mac" - Iain, Viktor and Company
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" - Mistress Fraser and Company
    "Lone Star State" - Viktor

Act II

    "Never Felt Better" - Company
    "Cheerio Away You Go" - Ben and Stella
    "Get A Move On"- Company
    "Numbers"- Stella and Mac
    "All The Things That We Do" - Company Women
    "In An Ideal Word" - Mac and Gordon
    "Game Over" - Stella
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again (reprise)" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Aiming For The Stars" - Ben and Company - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Going Home"

I think it could make a good live performance, involving MK, that can be recorded and release it on dvd/BR, same way that Sting did with his Last Ship one.

That would be a wonderful event..
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on August 08, 2022, 11:25:03 AM
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Not sure how reliable that data is. McCartney's latest two records aren't even in the database. It only lists sales for DTRW in Poland. I'm quite sure he sold more of them in the UK than in Poland.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 08, 2022, 11:27:16 AM
The expectation from the Chichester show made me remember the Sting musical, The Last Ship, and spend an afternoon free at home to watch the concert Sting gave with some actors to present his musical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-253J9sQQ&list=PLy5UXH4rXBaH3T3Efjw9RCV8UjSj5OUwA

After watch it, I was thinking it would be possible to MK and his band to do a similar thing, in a theater, playing the songs, even singing some of them, and maybe it could be...

I mean, I can imagine the musicians in one corner, MK, John McCusker, Ianto, Guy, a bass player (Ewan Vernel?) and an acordionist (Ian Lothian? Donald Shaw?) playing the songs, while in the middle of the stage, you have the main actors and at the other corner, the red cabin.

These are the songs, and I think MK could sing himelf some of the songs, introducing the emotional state of the character before singing it, like Sting does:

Act I

    "A Barrel Of Crude" - Company
    "Houston We Have A Problem" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "We're Going To Make A Killing" - Company
    "What A Life" - Ben - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Filthy Dirty Rich" - Gordon, Stella and Company
    "Rocks And Water" - Stella - MK COULD SING THIS ONE, AS THERE IS A VERSION RECORDED IN WHICH IS MAC WHO SINGS IT
    "That'd Do Me" - Company
    "Big Mac" - Iain, Viktor and Company
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" - Mistress Fraser and Company
    "Lone Star State" - Viktor

Act II

    "Never Felt Better" - Company
    "Cheerio Away You Go" - Ben and Stella
    "Get A Move On"- Company
    "Numbers"- Stella and Mac
    "All The Things That We Do" - Company Women
    "In An Ideal Word" - Mac and Gordon
    "Game Over" - Stella
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again (reprise)" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Aiming For The Stars" - Ben and Company - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Going Home"

I think it could make a good live performance, involving MK, that can be recorded and release it on dvd/BR, same way that Sting did with his Last Ship one.

That would be a wonderful event..

Yes, it would be something truly amazing, that would have in just one show the magic of the musical itself and the magic of MK and his band playing and singing for the fans!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: wakeywakey on August 08, 2022, 11:35:02 AM
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Not sure how reliable that data is. McCartney's latest two records aren't even in the database. It only lists sales for DTRW in Poland. I'm quite sure he sold more of them in the UK than in Poland.
Well the lack of silver,gold or platinum discs for the sales of DTRW would also indicate it hardly sold.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: quizzaciously on August 08, 2022, 11:40:47 AM
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Not sure how reliable that data is. McCartney's latest two records aren't even in the database. It only lists sales for DTRW in Poland. I'm quite sure he sold more of them in the UK than in Poland.
Well the lack of silver,gold or platinum discs for the sales of DTRW would also indicate it hardly sold.

If a sale is represented by someone purchasing a CD or some other physical thing, then it's not surprising at all. I already said it, but I think in the distant future music will be transferred straight to the brain, or you could by a 3D hologram version of the artists to play in your house, but these guys will still measure sales in CDs.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Robson on August 08, 2022, 11:47:53 AM
The expectation from the Chichester show made me remember the Sting musical, The Last Ship, and spend an afternoon free at home to watch the concert Sting gave with some actors to present his musical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-253J9sQQ&list=PLy5UXH4rXBaH3T3Efjw9RCV8UjSj5OUwA

After watch it, I was thinking it would be possible to MK and his band to do a similar thing, in a theater, playing the songs, even singing some of them, and maybe it could be...

I mean, I can imagine the musicians in one corner, MK, John McCusker, Ianto, Guy, a bass player (Ewan Vernel?) and an acordionist (Ian Lothian? Donald Shaw?) playing the songs, while in the middle of the stage, you have the main actors and at the other corner, the red cabin.

These are the songs, and I think MK could sing himelf some of the songs, introducing the emotional state of the character before singing it, like Sting does:

Act I

    "A Barrel Of Crude" - Company
    "Houston We Have A Problem" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "We're Going To Make A Killing" - Company
    "What A Life" - Ben - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Filthy Dirty Rich" - Gordon, Stella and Company
    "Rocks And Water" - Stella - MK COULD SING THIS ONE, AS THERE IS A VERSION RECORDED IN WHICH IS MAC WHO SINGS IT
    "That'd Do Me" - Company
    "Big Mac" - Iain, Viktor and Company
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" - Mistress Fraser and Company
    "Lone Star State" - Viktor

Act II

    "Never Felt Better" - Company
    "Cheerio Away You Go" - Ben and Stella
    "Get A Move On"- Company
    "Numbers"- Stella and Mac
    "All The Things That We Do" - Company Women
    "In An Ideal Word" - Mac and Gordon
    "Game Over" - Stella
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again (reprise)" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Aiming For The Stars" - Ben and Company - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Going Home"

I think it could make a good live performance, involving MK, that can be recorded and release it on dvd/BR, same way that Sting did with his Last Ship one.

That would be a wonderful event..

Yes, it would be something truly amazing, that would have in just one show the magic of the musical itself and the magic of MK and his band playing and singing for the fans!

Exactly! I'd go to the end of the world to see it.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 08, 2022, 12:28:16 PM
His last album flopped so there won't be any BR/DVD releases from MK anytime soon.
Why do you think they have started (re)releasing the older stuff on a regular basis?
The only product that MK can now sell is his older stuff.
This could be good news because without touring income he'll "need" to bring in some "new" money so we might actually get some deluxe editions.
MK is like supporting a team doomed to relegation-it's the hope that kills you.

Any evidence that the ;ast album "flopped"?
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Sorry, but that website does not look legit. It says the Local Hero OST has only sold 60k for a start which is nonsense.

Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 08, 2022, 12:35:26 PM
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Not sure how reliable that data is. McCartney's latest two records aren't even in the database. It only lists sales for DTRW in Poland. I'm quite sure he sold more of them in the UK than in Poland.
Well the lack of silver,gold or platinum discs for the sales of DTRW would also indicate it hardly sold.

If a sale is represented by someone purchasing a CD or some other physical thing, then it's not surprising at all. I already said it, but I think in the distant future music will be transferred straight to the brain, or you could by a 3D hologram version of the artists to play in your house, but these guys will still measure sales in CDs.

Very few people buy physical copies of music anymore, just collectors/musos. I don't know any "normal" people who still buy physical copies so it's not surprising that DTRW didn't sell 60k physical copies in the UK, but that doesn't mean it flopped.

Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 08, 2022, 12:36:43 PM
The expectation from the Chichester show made me remember the Sting musical, The Last Ship, and spend an afternoon free at home to watch the concert Sting gave with some actors to present his musical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-253J9sQQ&list=PLy5UXH4rXBaH3T3Efjw9RCV8UjSj5OUwA

After watch it, I was thinking it would be possible to MK and his band to do a similar thing, in a theater, playing the songs, even singing some of them, and maybe it could be...

I mean, I can imagine the musicians in one corner, MK, John McCusker, Ianto, Guy, a bass player (Ewan Vernel?) and an acordionist (Ian Lothian? Donald Shaw?) playing the songs, while in the middle of the stage, you have the main actors and at the other corner, the red cabin.

These are the songs, and I think MK could sing himelf some of the songs, introducing the emotional state of the character before singing it, like Sting does:

Act I

    "A Barrel Of Crude" - Company
    "Houston We Have A Problem" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "We're Going To Make A Killing" - Company
    "What A Life" - Ben - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Filthy Dirty Rich" - Gordon, Stella and Company
    "Rocks And Water" - Stella - MK COULD SING THIS ONE, AS THERE IS A VERSION RECORDED IN WHICH IS MAC WHO SINGS IT
    "That'd Do Me" - Company
    "Big Mac" - Iain, Viktor and Company
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" - Mistress Fraser and Company
    "Lone Star State" - Viktor

Act II

    "Never Felt Better" - Company
    "Cheerio Away You Go" - Ben and Stella
    "Get A Move On"- Company
    "Numbers"- Stella and Mac
    "All The Things That We Do" - Company Women
    "In An Ideal Word" - Mac and Gordon
    "Game Over" - Stella
    "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again (reprise)" - Mac - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Aiming For The Stars" - Ben and Company - MK COULD SING THIS ONE
    "Going Home"

I think it could make a good live performance, involving MK, that can be recorded and release it on dvd/BR, same way that Sting did with his Last Ship one.

That would be a wonderful event..

Yes, it would be something truly amazing, that would have in just one show the magic of the musical itself and the magic of MK and his band playing and singing for the fans!

Exactly! I'd go to the end of the world to see it.

Chichester is more or less one hour from Gatwick airport, there is always a chance that MK attends in the audience the first dates, and is a small theater ;)
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Robson on August 08, 2022, 01:03:00 PM
It's true. I think about it intensely:)
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jabbathehut on August 08, 2022, 02:25:50 PM
Didn't they give free copies of the album with concert tickets.?Vaguely seem to remember.Either way the money is in concerts not album sales any more.I hope when the time comes they don't go down the dynamic ticket pricing route.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2022, 10:02:26 AM
Didn't they give free copies of the album with concert tickets.?Vaguely seem to remember.Either way the money is in concerts not album sales any more.I hope when the time comes they don't go down the dynamic ticket pricing route.

I believe dynamic tickets have been a thing in musical theatre for a long time, Book of Mormon started it I think.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 12, 2022, 08:51:17 AM
Following some twitter accounts from the Chichester theatre people and involved with LH (like Paul Constable, Paul Arditti and many more), I saw multiple references to a theater in London called "Bridge theatre", located near the famous London bridge and the tower bridge, with a capacity of 900 people.

Looks like a very likely location for Local Hero giving that connections, and that the capacity is more than the Lyceum in Edinburgh (658) and some less than the Old Vic (1.067).

Actually, I would like that it could be that one, that's an area of London I like very very much!

I still think, as they told that by phone when they called to cancel the LH tickets, that the Old Vic could be the place again, but the Bridge Theatre looks more atractive.

Actually, at the Bridge theater, there is a play running from February to September 3rd of 2023, so it won't be possible until september next year!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: skydiver on August 12, 2022, 09:16:41 AM
Following some twitter accounts from the Chichester theatre people and involved with LH (like Paul Constable, Paul Arditti and many more), I saw multiple references to a theater in London called "Bridge theatre", located near the famous London bridge and the tower bridge, with a capacity of 900 people.

Looks like a very likely location for Local Hero giving that connections, and that the capacity is more than the Lyceum in Edinburgh (658) and some less than the Old Vic (1.067).

Actually, I would like that it could be that one, that's an area of London I like very very much!

I still think, as they told that by phone when they called to cancel the LH tickets, that the Old Vic could be the place again, but the Bridge Theatre looks more atractive.

Actually, at the Bridge theater, there is a play running from February to September 3rd of 2023, so it won't be possible until september next year!

Thanks very much.
That sounds really interesting.
Beautiful location, beautiful bar, modern theatre!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: goon525 on August 15, 2022, 05:54:34 PM
It’s Guys and Dolls programmed for that long run. As one of the very best of the classic musicals, it probably will justify that length. But it’s nothing to do with Mr Fletcher!
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 30, 2022, 11:51:35 AM
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Not sure how reliable that data is. McCartney's latest two records aren't even in the database. It only lists sales for DTRW in Poland. I'm quite sure he sold more of them in the UK than in Poland.
Well the lack of silver,gold or platinum discs for the sales of DTRW would also indicate it hardly sold.

If a sale is represented by someone purchasing a CD or some other physical thing, then it's not surprising at all. I already said it, but I think in the distant future music will be transferred straight to the brain, or you could by a 3D hologram version of the artists to play in your house, but these guys will still measure sales in CDs.

Very few people buy physical copies of music anymore, just collectors/musos. I don't know any "normal" people who still buy physical copies so it's not surprising that DTRW didn't sell 60k physical copies in the UK, but that doesn't mean it flopped.

I guess I am not a normal person then ;) I always buy the CD's
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: Robson on August 30, 2022, 12:12:25 PM
I'm joining the club. I've always bought CD's and I hope that doesn't change:)
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 30, 2022, 12:15:11 PM
Sales,or lack of,figures.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/artist/8492

Not sure how reliable that data is. McCartney's latest two records aren't even in the database. It only lists sales for DTRW in Poland. I'm quite sure he sold more of them in the UK than in Poland.
Well the lack of silver,gold or platinum discs for the sales of DTRW would also indicate it hardly sold.

If a sale is represented by someone purchasing a CD or some other physical thing, then it's not surprising at all. I already said it, but I think in the distant future music will be transferred straight to the brain, or you could by a 3D hologram version of the artists to play in your house, but these guys will still measure sales in CDs.

Very few people buy physical copies of music anymore, just collectors/musos. I don't know any "normal" people who still buy physical copies so it's not surprising that DTRW didn't sell 60k physical copies in the UK, but that doesn't mean it flopped.

I guess I am not a normal person then ;) I always buy the CD's

Me too.

You cannot rely on streaming services or digital files on hard disks etc, they can shut down, delete your favorite music or crash. The physycal format is more secure, yes, cds can be broken too, but can be replaced with another one, even second ones copies if it got out of print, a broken hd can be replaced but the music in the previous one might be lost forever, if the digital shop where you purchased it, is gone or had deleted that record.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 30, 2022, 12:29:48 PM
Exactly, or the artist could withdraw their music from a streaming site for any reason, like Neil Young did. Once you own the CD, it is yours and can't be taken away.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: SG on August 30, 2022, 01:16:52 PM
Out of respect for the musicians' work, I always buy the CDs and then I make AIFF files
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 30, 2022, 01:40:47 PM
Out of respect for the musicians' work, I always buy the CDs and then I make AIFF files

Me too, specially since streaming services usually takes most of the money.

Yes, record companies also take a percentage, quite big, of the price of the cds or lps, but it's less than streaming services and artists get their money from his work.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 30, 2022, 04:27:15 PM
We on this site are not "normal" I'm afraid. Most people don't even own a CD player anymore.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: jbaent on August 30, 2022, 04:44:39 PM
We on this site are not "normal" I'm afraid. Most people don't even own a CD player anymore.

I only have it in my car. At home I use my home cinema to play CDs.
Title: Re: Local Hero Musical - London 2023
Post by: SG on August 30, 2022, 06:41:07 PM
We on this site are not "normal" I'm afraid. Most people don't even own a CD player anymore.

I still have my CD player bought in the late 80's and it works very well.