DS. Never in latinamerica

[ybot]

Why?
Neither LOG BIA and OES tours
They even did not go to Brazil.

[TheTimeWasWrong]

Why?
Neither LOG BIA and OES tours
They even did not go to Brazil.

Yesterday I found out DS did their first concert in Portugal during the OES tour! Also during some MK tours the county got excluded.

[quizzaciously]

I think it was due to this formula: money × laziness × popularity. It depends on the artist though... Paul McCartney announced his Brazilian tour which starts in October and he visit all sorts of places (Japan, Latin America to name a few and even Australia, OMG!). But Paul McCartney will get a huge crowd even in Antarctica so he can tour where he or his management would want. Mark, in other hand...

[dmg]

The Portugal one seems a little strange as he seems to get a good crowd there these days.

He also received a rapturous reception at all the South American gigs in 2001 so it can only be cost or laziness, probably more the latter.

I seem to recall Japanese dates were cancelled on the OES tour due to poor sales.

[Eddie Fox]

I'm brazilian and I think I can answer that one. Touring in Brazil these days is doable and profitable but it wasn't that simple back in the day when DS was still active. McCartney and Sinatra did it but they were much more popular than DS over here. Clapton did a gig in Rio in 1990, I was there with my brother, and the infrastructure was precarious compared to what we saw on the OES tour. There was a festival called Hollywood Rock that tried to bring them in 1992 but when the promoters got told the band needed 2 jumbos just for the equipment they quit. I don't blame DS for skipping South America, everything around here was pretty amateur and unprofessional back then. 

That being said, things have changed quite a lot and I don't understand why Mark never came back after the STP tour. All concerts were sold out months in advance and our infrastructure is now just as good as anywhere else's. Not counting on festivals here's a list of bands and solo artists who've dropped by over the last few years: Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton, The Police, Rolling Stones, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, U2 (argh), BB King, Elton John, Bob Dylan, Roger Waters... John Mayer is arriving in november. Now I ask, why? Why not Brazil, Mark?

[ybot]

Hi raposo, I am from Argentina and many bands came all these years
I could understand that in 1985 after our falkland/malvinas war DS were not welcome.
I believe, Mark composed brothers in arms in ocasion of our war in 1982. It could have been a very touchy moment if the came.
But, in OES tour was different.
Eventhough, it was not a surprise they did not come. What was a surprise they did not visit Brazil and Mexico
I cannot remember our situation by 1985 1992 . As you said , now would be sold out many shows.

[Eddie Fox]

Hi raposo, I am from Argentina and many bands came all these years
I could understand that in 1985 after our falkland/malvinas war DS were not welcome.
I believe, Mark composed brothers in arms in ocasion of our war in 1982. It could have been a very touchy moment if the came.
But, in OES tour was different.
Eventhough, it was not a surprise they did not come. What was a surprise they did not visit Brazil and Mexico
I cannot remember our situation by 1985 1992 . As you said , now would be sold out many shows.

Holla hermano, huge fan of Messi's here!

I think it was more of a technical and logistical thing than politics or anything else. Mark was against the war, not against Argentina. But I don't know, you might be right!

[ybot]

Hi, yes, Mark and most of us are against any war
I guess they decided not to tour any of latinamerican countries to be fair with all of them. Going only to Brazil which is the largest could be a success any time

[rmarques821]

The Portugal one seems a little strange as he seems to get a good crowd there these days.

He also received a rapturous reception at all the South American gigs in 2001 so it can only be cost or laziness, probably more the latter.

I seem to recall Japanese dates were cancelled on the OES tour due to poor sales.

He has been here in Portugal 3 times and he sold out the arena each time. We also gave him media coverage when he released Tracker 2 years ago. Hopefully next tour he'll be here again, otherwise I'll have to travel to Spain.

Also, just a curious thing I've noticed over the years here: 1 in 5 households I've visited has a vinyl copy of either Alchemy or Brothers In Arms.

[quizzaciously]

The Portugal one seems a little strange as he seems to get a good crowd there these days.

He also received a rapturous reception at all the South American gigs in 2001 so it can only be cost or laziness, probably more the latter.

I seem to recall Japanese dates were cancelled on the OES tour due to poor sales.

He has been here in Portugal 3 times and he sold out the arena each time. We also gave him media coverage when he released Tracker 2 years ago. Hopefully next tour he'll be here again, otherwise I'll have to travel to Spain.

I was in Porto this summer and if Mark will play in your beautiful Coliseu once more it would make my whole year. We lived straight across the street of this place and I always thought about Mark playing there in 1996. I think Mark would be blown away by the fact how different this town became now, because from what I've heard it was much of a less polite place than it is now. Bring Mark to Porto! Please! Should we make a petition?

[jbaent]

Yes, you should make a petition to the Portuguese promoters.

[rmarques821]

The Portugal one seems a little strange as he seems to get a good crowd there these days.

He also received a rapturous reception at all the South American gigs in 2001 so it can only be cost or laziness, probably more the latter.

I seem to recall Japanese dates were cancelled on the OES tour due to poor sales.

He has been here in Portugal 3 times and he sold out the arena each time. We also gave him media coverage when he released Tracker 2 years ago. Hopefully next tour he'll be here again, otherwise I'll have to travel to Spain.

I was in Porto this summer and if Mark will play in your beautiful Coliseu once more it would make my whole year. We lived straight across the street of this place and I always thought about Mark playing there in 1996. I think Mark would be blown away by the fact how different this town became now, because from what I've heard it was much of a less polite place than it is now. Bring Mark to Porto! Please! Should we make a petition?

He has never been to Porto unfortunately. Each time the concert was in Lisbon...Probably has to do with it being the capital and a bigger city just aswell (doesn't mean it is prettier). I would start a petition gladly, but I doubt it would change anything. I'll be happy if he comes to Portugal at all.

Also, I'm glad you enjoyed being here in my city! 

[Pottel]

I think it was due to this formula: money × laziness × popularity. It depends on the artist though... Paul McCartney announced his Brazilian tour which starts in October and he visit all sorts of places (Japan, Latin America to name a few and even Australia, OMG!). But Paul McCartney will get a huge crowd even in Antarctica so he can tour where he or his management would want. Mark, in other hand...

but that was not the case in the BIA days, he could have played in friggin north korea and people would have still come from everyhwere..

[Eddie Fox]

I think it was due to this formula: money × laziness × popularity. It depends on the artist though... Paul McCartney announced his Brazilian tour which starts in October and he visit all sorts of places (Japan, Latin America to name a few and even Australia, OMG!). But Paul McCartney will get a huge crowd even in Antarctica so he can tour where he or his management would want. Mark, in other hand...

but that was not the case in the BIA days, he could have played in friggin north korea and people would have still come from everyhwere..

Yeah, but we all know the perfectionist Mark is and trust me on this one, Brazil was not viable. Just imagine flying all that circus over here to do what? Two gigs? Definitely not a good strategy. And on the top of that our currency was insanely weak at that time, inflation was higher than the moon, no promoter would have that kind of risk.

[Pottel]

I think it was due to this formula: money × laziness × popularity. It depends on the artist though... Paul McCartney announced his Brazilian tour which starts in October and he visit all sorts of places (Japan, Latin America to name a few and even Australia, OMG!). But Paul McCartney will get a huge crowd even in Antarctica so he can tour where he or his management would want. Mark, in other hand...

but that was not the case in the BIA days, he could have played in friggin north korea and people would have still come from everyhwere..

Yeah, but we all know the perfectionist Mark is and trust me on this one, Brazil was not viable. Just imagine flying all that circus over here to do what? Two gigs? Definitely not a good strategy. And on the top of that out currency was insanely weak at that time, inflation was higher than the moon, no promoter would have that kind of risk.

Point taken

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