Jack Sonni passed away

[superval99]

He seems to get on OK with members of the present band though - Richard, Guy, Glen, Danny, Ian, Jim, Paul, John & Mike, plus John Illsley (DS) and has done with most of them since 1995!

[dmg]

He seems to get on OK with members of the present band though - Richard, Guy, Glen, Danny, Ian, Jim, Paul, John & Mike, plus John Illsley (DS) and has done with most of them since 1995!

The tours are very obviously (to me anyway) different to him now.  He treats them less seriously and hence the pressure is off.  You could see the pressure on him taking its toll in the Sydney '86 concert.  Even the OES tour was taken less seriously and relationships were apparently strained from very early on.  I've heard it referred to as the On Easy Street tour and I'd go along with that.  The BIA tour was taken very seriously since the band had a lot to live up to and he seemed to feel that pressure by the end, hence disbanding.

The solo tours come across as a bit of a jam with some mates for him and therefore less pressure and much easier for him to get along with everyone.  They also know what side their bread is buttered on and will have made a decent income from their work with Mark over the years, especially his yes man Guy.

[dustyvalentino]

Well, since we don't have both sides of all these stories, maybe we should just look at the statistics.
From the DS days, Mark has kept a good relationship for sure only with John, Guy, Danny, and Paul.
With David, Pick, Terry, Alan, Jack, Chris (White), Chris (Withen),Phil, and Ed, the relationship went sour or at least non existent, with some bad rumours.
Not counting Chad and Matt from the solo days...
Maybe Hal is an exception, since he came in 2019 to some concerts, they might have kept a relationship.
Anyway, the statistics are not in favour of Mark.. Must be a difficult fellow to work with. Like most geniuses... "My way of the highway"!

Don’t forget Tommy Mandel!

(Although I would exclude Matt, I don’t think there was an issue, just Jim came back).

[MagicElliott]

Well, since we don't have both sides of all these stories, maybe we should just look at the statistics.
From the DS days, Mark has kept a good relationship for sure only with John, Guy, Danny, and Paul.
With David, Pick, Terry, Alan, Jack, Chris (White), Chris (Withen),Phil, and Ed, the relationship went sour or at least non existent, with some bad rumours.
Not counting Chad and Matt from the solo days...
Maybe Hal is an exception, since he came in 2019 to some concerts, they might have kept a relationship.
Anyway, the statistics are not in favour of Mark.. Must be a difficult fellow to work with. Like most geniuses... "My way of the highway"!

Don’t forget Tommy Mandel!

(Although I would exclude Matt, I don’t think there was an issue, just Jim came back).

Matt replaced Jim because he had an ear problem that left him unable to fly. I think I recall they had come up with a plan to enable him to join them on the RPD tour. Goodness knows what the plan was as there’s no way he’d have been able to keep up with the rest of the band by ship!
Guy wrote about it on the diary for the Privateering recording.
Matt was hired to tour with them. He was only credited on one solo album and the album with Emmy. As Guy sometimes says, they never assume anything. They just get rehired again. Jim’s ear problem fixed and so Matt wasn’t needed.
I believe the above to be correct anyway. 

[dmg]

Well, since we don't have both sides of all these stories, maybe we should just look at the statistics.
From the DS days, Mark has kept a good relationship for sure only with John, Guy, Danny, and Paul.
With David, Pick, Terry, Alan, Jack, Chris (White), Chris (Withen),Phil, and Ed, the relationship went sour or at least non existent, with some bad rumours.
Not counting Chad and Matt from the solo days...
Maybe Hal is an exception, since he came in 2019 to some concerts, they might have kept a relationship.
Anyway, the statistics are not in favour of Mark.. Must be a difficult fellow to work with. Like most geniuses... "My way of the highway"!

Don’t forget Tommy Mandel!

(Although I would exclude Matt, I don’t think there was an issue, just Jim came back).

Matt replaced Jim because he had an ear problem that left him unable to fly. I think I recall they had come up with a plan to enable him to join them on the RPD tour. Goodness knows what the plan was as there’s no way he’d have been able to keep up with the rest of the band by ship!
Guy wrote about it on the diary for the Privateering recording.
Matt was hired to tour with them. He was only credited on one solo album and the album with Emmy. As Guy sometimes says, they never assume anything. They just get rehired again. Jim’s ear problem fixed and so Matt wasn’t needed.
I believe the above to be correct anyway.

I was always a bit suspect about this ear problem that just resolved itself.  Maybe they fell out and made up again after Mark fell out with Matt! 😂

I never bought that "family issues" thing when Chad left in 2005 either.

[TheTimeWasWrong]

I was always a bit suspect about this ear problem that just resolved itself.  Maybe they fell out and made up again after Mark fell out with Matt! 😂

I never bought that "family issues" thing when Chad left in 2005 either.

Jim got to Europe for the TRD tour on a ship right? And went home on a ship when the accident happened. The planned TRD tour had no dates in Africa/Asia/Australia like the SL tour which requires planes. 

Chad confirmed the family issue in a recent interview.

[Robson]

I was always a bit suspect about this ear problem that just resolved itself.  Maybe they fell out and made up again after Mark fell out with Matt! 😂

I never bought that "family issues" thing when Chad left in 2005 either.

Jim got to Europe for the TRD tour on a ship right? And went home on a ship when the accident happened. The planned TRD tour had no dates in Africa/Asia/Australia like the SL tour which requires planes. 

Chad confirmed the family issue in a recent interview.

Fats Kaplin (guitar, fiddle, pedal steel) was also in the line-up. It's a pity.

[MagicElliott]

And I believe someone else was on bass duties. Can’t recall the name though. Guy posted the lineup once and I seem to recall it wasn’t Glenn. Hard as that is to believe.

[Robson]

And I believe someone else was on bass duties. Can’t recall the name though. Guy posted the lineup once and I seem to recall it wasn’t Glenn. Hard as that is to believe.

Probably Marcus Cliffe

[Jules]

And I believe someone else was on bass duties. Can’t recall the name though. Guy posted the lineup once and I seem to recall it wasn’t Glenn. Hard as that is to believe.

Probably Marcus Cliffe

Yes!

Marcus on bass, Danny on drums, Jim on keys and Fats Kaolin on mandolin, fiddle and steel guitar

[dmg]

I was always a bit suspect about this ear problem that just resolved itself.  Maybe they fell out and made up again after Mark fell out with Matt! 😂

I never bought that "family issues" thing when Chad left in 2005 either.

Jim got to Europe for the TRD tour on a ship right? And went home on a ship when the accident happened. The planned TRD tour had no dates in Africa/Asia/Australia like the SL tour which requires planes. 

Chad confirmed the family issue in a recent interview.

They've usually used a private jet to travel from city to city.  Or that's been the excuse from Guy for the short setlists.

Fair enough if Chad confirmed it, but after that he was dumped out of the band.

[Banjo99uk]

I was always a bit suspect about this ear problem that just resolved itself.  Maybe they fell out and made up again after Mark fell out with Matt! 😂

I never bought that "family issues" thing when Chad left in 2005 either.

Jim got to Europe for the TRD tour on a ship right? And went home on a ship when the accident happened. The planned TRD tour had no dates in Africa/Asia/Australia like the SL tour which requires planes. 

Chad confirmed the family issue in a recent interview.

They've usually used a private jet to travel from city to city.  Or that's been the excuse from Guy for the short setlists.

Fair enough if Chad confirmed it, but after that he was dumped out of the band.

For Danny though, who is still on the scene. Not quite sure what you’re saying about MK.

[dmg]

I was always a bit suspect about this ear problem that just resolved itself.  Maybe they fell out and made up again after Mark fell out with Matt! 😂

I never bought that "family issues" thing when Chad left in 2005 either.

Jim got to Europe for the TRD tour on a ship right? And went home on a ship when the accident happened. The planned TRD tour had no dates in Africa/Asia/Australia like the SL tour which requires planes. 

Chad confirmed the family issue in a recent interview.

They've usually used a private jet to travel from city to city.  Or that's been the excuse from Guy for the short setlists.

Fair enough if Chad confirmed it, but after that he was dumped out of the band.

For Danny though, who is still on the scene. Not quite sure what you’re saying about MK.

I'm saying he's fallen out with a lot of band members over the years.  We all know this and we don't even have to discuss The Dullards because the matter concerns the period when Jack was in the band.

[Banjo99uk]

The Dullards? You do know this is a pro MK forum. No person is perfect, and I can guarantee he has had to be harsh as he’s in one of the most cut throat and ruthless industries going.  I have alot of respect for him as he has protected every one he’s worked with. I’m sure some were absolute arseholes, yet MK remains silent even with shit being flung at him. He’s the boss at the end of the day and who likes their boss. I shall be keeping MK and DS on my playlist for now, unless it turns out he was best friends with Epstein.

[Robson]

The Dullards? You do know this is a pro MK forum. No person is perfect, and I can guarantee he has had to be harsh as he’s in one of the most cut throat and ruthless industries going.  I have alot of respect for him as he has protected every one he’s worked with. I’m sure some were absolute arseholes, yet MK remains silent even with shit being flung at him. He’s the boss at the end of the day and who likes their boss. I shall be keeping MK and DS on my playlist for now, unless it turns out he was best friends with Epstein.