Revelation about BiA album from bass player Neil Jason

[dustyvalentino]

From 54 mins

https://youtu.be/IciiR1BJRP4?si=cCFJFYIbfgJX45ns

He doesn’t come out and say he plays on the entire album, but implies he did quite a chunk of it…

[Chris W]

Not surprised.

[Silvertown]

Not surprised.

Based on John's playing abilities or...?

[Matchstickman]

He mentions Walk of Life and One World... After all that time in Montserrat... 

He says that "Mark had fallen and injured himself". Meaning John, presumably?

[dustyvalentino]

So, do we think John actually hurt his hand , or was this some face saving?

[Matchstickman]

It's all a bit odd. One can see why they would get another guy for slap bass in One World, but why another player on Walk of Life? Doesn't seem difficult, does it?

They did the same thing with the drums, of course, but then drums will often be much more noticeable than bass.

[Matchstickman]

So, do we think John actually hurt his hand , or was this some face saving?

I'm surprised they bothered with such a story to begin with, if they did.

Someone, take this to Guy 

[dustyvalentino]

So, do we think John actually hurt his hand , or was this some face saving?

I'm surprised they bothered with such a story to begin with, if they did.

Someone, take this to Guy 

Guy’s not going to say anything that would embarrass John.

Would be odd for Neil to make it up. He even said something like, “I guess it’s ok for me to admit this after all this time “.

[Matchstickman]

True. He also said that John was there, in the studio. But the notion of having to record bass (of all things) after a long period of recording sounds very odd. Unless there was something technically wrong with the recordings, it would seem that Mark simply wasn't happy with the playing.

[ds1984]

This story has already been discussed earier on the forum, in 2023.

Nothing really new.

[dustyvalentino]

This story has already been discussed earier on the forum, in 2023.

Nothing really new.

We discussed previously that he played on One World, but not his claim that he played also on Walk of Life and possibly more.

[ds1984]

This story has already been discussed earier on the forum, in 2023.

Nothing really new.

We discussed previously that he played on One World, but not his claim that he played also on Walk of Life and possibly more.

Ok.

The thing on BIA is that only One World does not sound as John.
And we know that Tony Levin was also part of the game.
But they all went in John's shoes.
 

[Matchstickman]

John not playing on WOL is in itself a great surprise, and like Dusty says, Neil makes it sound as though he played on several songs. It's a biggie indeed! This is about John Illsley, founding member, there through thick and thin, Mr Rock Solid. Technically not the greatest, but always 'right' for DS - at least that has been the general understanding. (Apart from One World.) Why anyone would brush that off as nothing is beyond me.

[dustyvalentino]

John not playing on WOL is in itself a great surprise, and like Dusty says, Neil makes it sound as though he played on several songs. It's a biggie indeed! This is about John Illsley, founding member, there through thick and thin, Mr Rock Solid. Technically not the greatest, but always 'right' for DS - at least that has been the general understanding. (Apart from One World.) Why anyone would brush that off as nothing is beyond me.

Yeah, I thought it was quite a revelation, seems I am more easily intrigued than others!

[Chris W]

Not surprised.

Based on John's playing abilities or...?

Based on having worked with Neil Dorfsman, who nagged McCartney to have me replaced.
Also idle chatter I've heard about the BIA sessions.