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OfflineMarnix

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2025, 09:43:01 PM »
I bet Guy cut the full TOL as he did with PB   :-X Let's hope its the full version...
I have good hopes it will be a full TOL version also because its 1 Side of the vinyl set.

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2025, 09:45:13 PM »
on bootleg, TOL length is almost 19 min (including 20s of applause)


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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2025, 09:49:10 PM »
I bet Guy cut the full TOL as he did with PB   :-X Let's hope its the full version...
I have good hopes it will be a full TOL version also because its 1 Side of the vinyl set.

It says: The 3CD deluxe box features the full studio album and a previously unreleased full-length live concert from the band’s Municipal Auditorium, San Antonio tour stop in 1985.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2025, 09:49:50 PM »
YES !
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2025, 09:59:26 PM »
Listening to WOL on Apple Music (lossless) now and the mix is amazing! It’s a new mix for sure, there is more depth, love it!
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2025, 11:22:34 PM »
Listening to WOL on Apple Music (lossless) now and the mix is amazing! It’s a new mix for sure, there is more depth, love it!

The different from the bootlegs is very noticeable which makes me want to hear the whole thing.

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2025, 11:32:05 PM »
I'm a bit dissapointed is San Antonio what's included and not Wembley, I think that was a far better concert but I guess that's what they found so, it's ok they are doing something anyway!

yes indeed. At the now famous question "where are the tapes?" we can guess these are the only ones they found... :think

If I had to bet I would had gone for Wembley as it's known it was recorded multitracks with the Rolling Stones Mobile, but considering what Ed say about the big chances tapes are lost or erased, probably they just found that via Westwood archives...

Best thing it's it would be properly mixing in comparation with the bootlegs.

There are a few 'rough edges' in the Wembley show so I would be guessing the San Antonio is more suitable.  Back then Mark was playing great and most shows could be released without editing.  The Wembley '85 show, though filmed, did have a few 'rough edges' and wasn't even the whole show.  By the time of the NA leg they were all playing somewhat tighter and the arrangements were that little bit more polished. 

San Antonio represents Mark and the band at their absolute peak and I'm glad they've chosen this show.  All the highlights are great versions!
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2025, 11:35:01 PM »
on bootleg, TOL length is almost 19 min (including 20s of applause)



One of the very best versions - gold standard.  Makes Alchemy sound like it's played by an amateur.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2025, 11:43:16 PM »
on bootleg, TOL length is almost 19 min (including 20s of applause)


One of the very best versions - gold standard.  Makes Alchemy sound like it's played by an amateur.
It is absolutely great of course, but I disagree with the Alchemy version sounding like being played by an amateur. Alchemy is not less well played, it is just simpler, shorter, more straight to the point, and some people prefer it that way.
I'm also quite fond of the '92 version we've got on the 2023 live box. Maybe also simpler and shorter than 85, but very touching.
Is there any bad version of TOL anyway?

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2025, 11:56:02 PM »
on bootleg, TOL length is almost 19 min (including 20s of applause)


One of the very best versions - gold standard.  Makes Alchemy sound like it's played by an amateur.
It is absolutely great of course, but I disagree with the Alchemy version sounding like being played by an amateur. Alchemy is not less well played, it is just simpler, shorter, more straight to the point, and some people prefer it that way.
I'm also quite fond of the '92 version we've got on the 2023 live box. Maybe also simpler and shorter than 85, but very touching.
Is there any bad version of TOL anyway?

Well, I didn't mean it literally, however I've always thought Mark had progressed a large amount as a guitarist between the LOG tour and the BIA tour.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2025, 11:58:32 PM »
The arrangements are more polished on the BIA tour than on the LOG tour, but I'm quite convinced Mark could have performed them same earlier, had he wanted to. His was already a guitar god in 1978.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2025, 12:14:06 AM »
I actually find BIA better played in Wembley than in San Antonio. Some notes are missing in the latter...
I also find TOL overall better in Wembley.
The Wembley show has this unique atmosphere... Maybe it is the video.

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2025, 01:59:11 AM »
« Last Edit: March 21, 2025, 02:04:03 AM by Knopflerfan »
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2025, 03:13:43 AM »
Like many others here, I have BiA over and over again. Even have it on the short lived Sony dual disc format with Chuck's 2.0 and 5.1 mix on DVD-A. That and the more recent Atmos release are the only worthwhile mixes chasing down, as they're from the multi tracks and not the same two channel mix that has been re-issued to death.


It's not the live show that's a bummer - it's the fact that we get that instead of anything studio recorded that is unreleased. Alternate takes...outtakes...even instrumental...nothing...nada. I can give many examples of other artists where at least when they release an anniversary edition, they include something unreleased. But never for DS.  :lol
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