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Offlinecannibals

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #405 on: June 04, 2025, 01:12:17 PM »
And the MFN outro that moves over in WWE was that always that way? I thought it was longer.  :think

arrangements evolved during the tour.

at the beginning of the tour, WWE doesn"t have the keyboard/sax intro

some weeks/months after San Antonio, the end of WWE featured a key change during the solo

I always thought the synthesizer part at the end of MFN was much longer before moving on to the next song....

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #406 on: June 07, 2025, 04:11:32 PM »
This gentleman puts together reissues:

https://youtu.be/xj8JSGF_zdI?si=pCZdmn98nQEB3Q8F

No mention of DS but the section from 17:30 on is of particular interest to those of us who wonder WHERE ARE THE TAPES?
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #407 on: June 08, 2025, 01:20:13 PM »
Great thanks  :thumbsup
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #408 on: June 08, 2025, 01:35:28 PM »
This gentleman puts together reissues:

https://youtu.be/xj8JSGF_zdI?si=pCZdmn98nQEB3Q8F

No mention of DS but the section from 17:30 on is of particular interest to those of us who wonder WHERE ARE THE TAPES?


Sad end... whoever had the wisdom and sense of preservation kept their copy somewhere safe, not leaving it 100% in the "care" of the record companies.

The lack of leftovers from certain recordings in a release like BIA's 40th anniversary may be related to this fact or simply the band not having any leftover recordings. But, from any album???? In the release of the OES album by Mofi, we have a new take on Planet of New Orleans, different from the official release; the version of Sailing to Philadelphia, present in the 2007 compilation, has a longer solo, Darling Preaty in the same compilation has a different vocal from the version on the GH album... anyway... where did they get these takes from? I believe there must be some interesting things for die-hard fans, as we are 0.001% of the audience that consumes DS and MK music, the chances are the most unlikely of having the pleasure of contemplating all the material, we are very lucky with the Live 78/92 box, especially Rainbow Theatre 79, an authentic nugget of gold, pure gold. If we had the complete footage of this show that closes the band's first cycle, it would be even more incredible.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #409 on: June 08, 2025, 02:53:50 PM »
Maybe for the 25th anniversary of Sailing To Philadelphia they'll give us a Mexican version of What It Is. :D
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #410 on: June 08, 2025, 05:47:08 PM »
This gentleman puts together reissues:

https://youtu.be/xj8JSGF_zdI?si=pCZdmn98nQEB3Q8F

No mention of DS but the section from 17:30 on is of particular interest to those of us who wonder WHERE ARE THE TAPES?

Thanks, that interview is very interesting to hear just how chaotic the cataloging has been in the industry. It paints a picture that things are very “scattered”.

I’ve often wondered if the unused Alchemy footage even made it out of Limelight Productions hands at all, whether the contract was considered completed, delivered and the unused footage thought of as surplus to requirements. Maybe it’s even quietly sitting in someones loft or garage that couldn’t bear to see it thrown away, in a box, in the dark, just waiting for the flick of a switch and the magic of a light bulb to bring it back to life…...

« Last Edit: June 08, 2025, 05:51:03 PM by Ingrained »

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #411 on: June 09, 2025, 09:57:05 AM »
Even when something is stored carefully and correctly, tape degrades.
I know people remastering albums from the late 70's and it is proving to be a very complex operation.
If you are recovering unreleased material from an album recorded on early digital (large machines with digital tape), you probably need a well maintained, fully working digital tape machine from the early 80's. They were so big and expensive not a lot were ever made and installed I think.

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #412 on: June 09, 2025, 09:59:59 AM »
I wonder what the chances are to get a quality show from 1981. Paris and Wertcher were somehow recorded, but all we've got so far is a small video broadcast from Paris and a horribly recorded radio broadcast from Werchter. But who would have guessed about San Antonio 85 and Rainbow 79?

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #413 on: June 09, 2025, 04:51:06 PM »
I wonder what the chances are to get a quality show from 1981. Paris and Wertcher were somehow recorded, but all we've got so far is a small video broadcast from Paris and a horribly recorded radio broadcast from Werchter. But who would have guessed about San Antonio 85 and Rainbow 79?


Rainbow 79 is such a fascinating thing, I'm still in shock about the release of this recording, how lucky we were, very lucky.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #414 on: June 09, 2025, 05:15:46 PM »
Yes, a very important concert, a very important tour, the last with the original line-up, so we are very happy that we have a document from those times.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #415 on: June 09, 2025, 11:45:15 PM »
I'm very curious about the alternate Planet of New Orleans version; can we find it anywhere? Doesn't seem to be on youtube....

This gentleman puts together reissues:

https://youtu.be/xj8JSGF_zdI?si=pCZdmn98nQEB3Q8F

No mention of DS but the section from 17:30 on is of particular interest to those of us who wonder WHERE ARE THE TAPES?


Sad end... whoever had the wisdom and sense of preservation kept their copy somewhere safe, not leaving it 100% in the "care" of the record companies.

The lack of leftovers from certain recordings in a release like BIA's 40th anniversary may be related to this fact or simply the band not having any leftover recordings. But, from any album???? In the release of the OES album by Mofi, we have a new take on Planet of New Orleans, different from the official release; the version of Sailing to Philadelphia, present in the 2007 compilation, has a longer solo, Darling Preaty in the same compilation has a different vocal from the version on the GH album... anyway... where did they get these takes from? I believe there must be some interesting things for die-hard fans, as we are 0.001% of the audience that consumes DS and MK music, the chances are the most unlikely of having the pleasure of contemplating all the material, we are very lucky with the Live 78/92 box, especially Rainbow Theatre 79, an authentic nugget of gold, pure gold. If we had the complete footage of this show that closes the band's first cycle, it would be even more incredible.

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #416 on: June 10, 2025, 03:30:55 AM »
I'm very curious about the alternate Planet of New Orleans version; can we find it anywhere? Doesn't seem to be on youtube....


Oh, it’s still there:


It’s just the line ”the other planet” is now actually included as was in the original lyrics.

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #417 on: June 10, 2025, 03:28:29 PM »
I'm very curious about the alternate Planet of New Orleans version; can we find it anywhere? Doesn't seem to be on youtube....


Oh, it’s still there:


It’s just the line ”the other planet” is now actually included as was in the original lyrics.

It was actually always included but the vocal track was just too muted to really make it out in the first chorus.  In the second chorus it was always quite clear.
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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #418 on: June 11, 2025, 07:23:51 PM »
I'm very curious about the alternate Planet of New Orleans version; can we find it anywhere? Doesn't seem to be on youtube....


Oh, it’s still there:

It’s just the line ”the other planet” is now actually included as was in the original lyrics.

It was actually always included but the vocal track was just too muted to really make it out in the first chorus.  In the second chorus it was always quite clear.

You have a special copy?

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Re: Brothers in arms 40th anniversary edition
« Reply #419 on: June 12, 2025, 03:15:20 PM »
What I honestly don’t get is why they cut Portobello Belle on the Alchemy release, but include over 1,5 minute of applause after Sultans of Swing on this SA live album. Why? :think

 

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