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Author Topic: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993  (Read 1524 times)

OfflineRobson

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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2018, 07:03:30 pm »
I really like the cover. In the album book there is no information that it is Radio Telescope Dishes at Night

Moonlight illuminates the radio telescope dishes of the Very Large Array in New Mexico.
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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2018, 11:42:04 pm »
On The Night is a very poor souvenir of that tour.

Ticket to Heaven or just about any other soundboard bootleg is a hundred times better.

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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2018, 12:21:41 am »
Well, I would say that for all songs prior to OES, I prefer the BIA tour versions (LOG tour for TR). OES tour versions (and OTN even more so since it is over produced) are too polished, too much pensa and pedal steel everywhere to my taste.
With the possible exception of Sultans, for which the sax break is better in the OES tour IMHO (even though I don't like Chris' drumming), and for which the sax-less Alchemy version is a must have as well.
For the OES songs, well, CE is too developped, OES (the song) is nice but too rushed, I don't care much about HF and the Bug...
On the Night has a very nice YAYF though. Also a pretty nice BIA for the OES tour (but I like the Wembley 85 version more, I love the Les Paul, the cheesy synth and the rocking ending !).
Would have loved to have soundboard versions of TOL (unlike most people I love the Pensa sound on this one, by exception), Iron Hand and PONO...
Oh well.

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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2018, 05:11:28 am »
I have a bootleg called straight to the point that puts OTN to shame. Yes, too much pedal steel and sax but the band sounds pretty relaxed like they’re having a great time.
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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2018, 11:34:59 am »
I have a bootleg called straight to the point that puts OTN to shame. Yes, too much pedal steel and sax but the band sounds pretty relaxed like they’re having a great time.

yes indeed, it's mainly because it's on the very beginning of the tour (end of august 91) so Mark and the band were still "fresh" and not yet bored like in spring 92
on all tours it's the same dilemme : the start of the tour sounds fresh and relaxed, and the middle and end sounds autopilot but with more developped arrangements, and often better than on the beginning

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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2018, 12:01:30 pm »
I have a bootleg called straight to the point that puts OTN to shame. Yes, too much pedal steel and sax but the band sounds pretty relaxed like they’re having a great time.

yes indeed, it's mainly because it's on the very beginning of the tour (end of august 91) so Mark and the band were still "fresh" and not yet bored like in spring 92
on all tours it's the same dilemme : the start of the tour sounds fresh and relaxed, and the middle and end sounds autopilot but with more developped arrangements, and often better than on the beginning

Yes, quite a few mistakes on those earlier shows, probably due to the large number of new songs they played on that tour.  No soundboards until June '92 tells you something about that.

I think they recorded OTN at the right time because they still sounded energetic in May '92, and yet had managed to find the best arrangements and iron out those greenies too.  I think the versions are good but it just sounds 'over engineered'.  Maybe a remix could work wonders?
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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2018, 12:30:31 pm »
Well, I would say that for all songs prior to OES, I prefer the BIA tour versions (LOG tour for TR). OES tour versions (and OTN even more so since it is over produced) are too polished, too much pensa and pedal steel everywhere to my taste.
With the possible exception of Sultans, for which the sax break is better in the OES tour IMHO (even though I don't like Chris' drumming), and for which the sax-less Alchemy version is a must have as well.
For the OES songs, well, CE is too developped, OES (the song) is nice but too rushed, I don't care much about HF and the Bug...
On the Night has a very nice YAYF though. Also a pretty nice BIA for the OES tour (but I like the Wembley 85 version more, I love the Les Paul, the cheesy synth and the rocking ending !).
Would have loved to have soundboard versions of TOL (unlike most people I love the Pensa sound on this one, by exception), Iron Hand and PONO...
Oh well.

I also think You and Your Friend from OTN is pretty awesome....love the Pedabro sound and love the interaction between Paul and MK building as the song progresses...much better IMHO than the album version.  This song (if brought out of retirement) could work well in todays setlist.  But they CANT replace Paul Franklins part with a Sax as they did OES most recently.  The sax part at the end of On Every Street doesn't do anything for the song and in some of the USB's from the last concert, the sax actually made me dislike (and even skip) On Every Street - its just too......"sax-y"....
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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2018, 04:16:33 pm »
Well, I would say that for all songs prior to OES, I prefer the BIA tour versions (LOG tour for TR). OES tour versions (and OTN even more so since it is over produced) are too polished, too much pensa and pedal steel everywhere to my taste.
With the possible exception of Sultans, for which the sax break is better in the OES tour IMHO (even though I don't like Chris' drumming), and for which the sax-less Alchemy version is a must have as well.
For the OES songs, well, CE is too developped, OES (the song) is nice but too rushed, I don't care much about HF and the Bug...
On the Night has a very nice YAYF though. Also a pretty nice BIA for the OES tour (but I like the Wembley 85 version more, I love the Les Paul, the cheesy synth and the rocking ending !).
Would have loved to have soundboard versions of TOL (unlike most people I love the Pensa sound on this one, by exception), Iron Hand and PONO...
Oh well.

I also think You and Your Friend from OTN is pretty awesome....love the Pedabro sound and love the interaction between Paul and MK building as the song progresses...much better IMHO than the album version.  This song (if brought out of retirement) could work well in todays setlist.  But they CANT replace Paul Franklins part with a Sax as they did OES most recently.  The sax part at the end of On Every Street doesn't do anything for the song and in some of the USB's from the last concert, the sax actually made me dislike (and even skip) On Every Street - its just too......"sax-y"....
fully agree.
still, my favourite moment, was between BIA and Solid rock when that girl is singled out in the crowd, in Rotterdam, lovely looking lady.....
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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2018, 06:34:53 pm »
I know what you mean, always wondered, if she ever watched that!

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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2018, 07:26:17 pm »
The girl with tears in her eyes at the end of Brothers In Arms is beautiful too:)
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Re: ON THE NIGHT 10.05.1993
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2018, 05:56:40 pm »
From that tour I love SOS, end part, from Rotterdam 1991 that can find on youtube.
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