A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Best Brown Baggies on June 21, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
-
Does anyone else agree, that on current form, the Final could be between England & France?
OOPS. Sorry, this should be in the jokes to cheer you up thread!!!! 8) ;D
Cheers BBB
-
:lol
When I saw the title of the thread I was going to suggest these 2 teams as finalists! ;D
:lol
Still hoping England will go through to the 2nd round though, and after that, anything can happen...
-
Yes, Germany waiting! 8)
LE
-
I know that if France can pass this tour this will make big buzz in my country.
They are getting weird times but I still support them - what does not kill you make you stronger.
Unfortunately tomorrow I won't be able to see the game so they have to win - and get lucky - so I can see at least another one.
-
The south american teams all are extremly strong this time!, so I think the european teams will loss quickly
-
They're coming home, they're coming home, they're coming, England's coming home...
I hope not, World Cup will be boring without a British team to support but the Algeria match was painful to watch, I had to drink lots of beer just to get through it. ;)
-
They're coming home, they're coming home, they're coming, England's coming home...
I hope not, World Cup will be boring without a British team to support but the Algeria match was painful to watch, I had to drink lots of beer just to get through it. ;)
England were so bad Adrian Chiles was having kittens at half-time. Well it was either the game or he had just found out what Christine Bleakley was going to be getting payed! :lol
-
The world cup is just going to prove that the premiership has dropped way down the rankings in the best leagues of Europe list - they may be one of the best paid groups of footballers but they are miles behind the likes of Brazil when it comes to skill, natural ability & heart. :o Dont get me wrong I like to see England or one of the uk countries involved as you can associate with the players etc but man have they been shocking on & off the pitch this time, over paid under achieving :o :o
Bobby Moore RIP must be turning in his grave to have some of these fellows mentioned in the same newspaper as him.England will still go through to the next phase but who knows after that ::) ::) ::) Brazil to win it :P :P
-
Netherlands! :D
-
The world cup is just going to prove that the premiership has dropped way down the rankings in the best leagues of Europe list - they may be one of the best paid groups of footballers but they are miles behind the likes of Brazil when it comes to skill, natural ability & heart. :o Dont get me wrong I like to see England or one of the uk countries involved as you can associate with the players etc but man have they been shocking on & off the pitch this time, over paid under achieving :o :o
Bobby Moore RIP must be turning in his grave to have some of these fellows mentioned in the same newspaper as him.England will still go through to the next phase but who knows after that ::) ::) ::) Brazil to win it :P :P
A lot of sense said there. I say this every week when I go to the football fed up the the English commentators bumming about their own league when most British grown players have generally been workmanlike over the years. Don't like Brazil though; bunch of diving, cheating b******! Argentina have the best players for me and if they win I get
-
This is it, we are dead.
Who will follow us?
-
Thank god those french b.....ds are gone! Now the World Cup will be just fine and interesting. Couldn't stand that behaviour not for a second anymore.
I had a good laugh when Zidane criticized the team with "The world will remember two things about the World Cup 2010: The winner and this bad behaviour." I laughed really loud, because everything the world (outside Germany) will remember from 2006 is the winner and Zidane kicking his head into another one's stomach... Ridicoulus. But as Al Bundy always said: "It is wrong to be a frenchman!"
Oh, boy, just kidding
a little bit ;)
LE
-
I am proud to be french... and to hate football.
-
No offence meant! :-* Was just going down into this football thing... France is on my scheduling for one of the next holidays!
Bien
-
No offence meant! :-* Was just going down into this football thing... France is on my scheduling for one of the next holidays!
Bien
-
In fairness we'd have put up a better show than the French - if it wasn't for the hand of Thierry we could be world champions ::) ::)
Yeah right ................. but we could have!!!!!!!!!! :disbelief :disbelief
-
In fairness we'd have put up a better show than the French - if it wasn't for the hand of Thierry we could be world champions ::) ::)
Yeah right ................. but we could have!!!!!!!!!! :disbelief :disbelief
The faulty is the referee and moreover the FIFA
As long as they will refuse video assist this will happen.
The IRB or the NFL have long understood this.
-
yeah, seriously dan....damn frenchies.. ::) ::)
-
I am proud to be french... and to hate football.
I am proud to love football and hate being French!
;D
-
Well I would like to give my support to the great nation of France (except the football team, obviously).
-
I am proud to be french... and to hate football.
I am proud to love football and hate being French!
;D
I like this kind of humour!! ;)
-
I am proud to be french... and to hate football.
I am proud to love football and hate being French!
;D
I like this kind of humour!! ;)
Thanks! but it's true!
-
In fairness we'd have put up a better show than the French - if it wasn't for the hand of Thierry we could be world champions ::) ::)
Yeah right ................. but we could have!!!!!!!!!! :disbelief :disbelief
The faulty is the referee and moreover the FIFA
As long as they will refuse video assist this will happen.
The IRB or the NFL have long understood this.
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
-
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
Meh, doesn't slow the game down much in rugby, tennis etc. As a football fan I would gladly sacrifice this minor delay to get fair results.
Nothing stopping the fourth official having a little TV screen and advising the ref via headphone.
-
[/quote]
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
[/quote]
tut tut,forget about it ??? su're we had a few pints of guinness & it was gone in a flash ;) ;) - a bit like Maradonna hand of God in 86 su're you'd never hear about that incident either,nobody ever talks about it ::) ::)BTW, you must have been looking at different games to me coz Ireland were by far the better team over the two legs & I'm not looking through green tinted glasses either 8)
Seriously though,there should be video evidence introduced in soccer,su're you have pre madonnas rolling around the ground with nothing wrong with them already who slow the game up no end & theres nothing wrong with it???Whats the difference with a fourth official who stops to clock for 30 seconds to have a look at an incident which may or may not cost a team a place in the world cup - it only makes sence to me anyway?
Just heard that USA are meeting Algeria in Pretoria @ 3pm & England are meeting France at the airport @ 6 :P :P :P
-
Seriously though,there should be video evidence introduced in soccer,su're you have pre madonnas rolling around the ground with nothing wrong with them Just heard that USA are meeting Algeria in Pretoria @ 3pm & England are meeting France at the airport @ 6 :P :P :P
Gosh I hate those who hold their faces in agony when they've been hardly touched on the shoulder! >:( just to get the other one sent off. And it works most of the time! They don't care if they look like complete twats on the replay, they had what they wanted! Just for that I'm for the use of video
& England are meeting France at the airport @ 6 :P :P :P
Excellent ;D
-
Just heard that USA are meeting Algeria in Pretoria @ 3pm & England are meeting France at the airport @ 6 :P :P :P
Should we take a late plane, Germany could join us @11 :P
-
You english knopflerados will hate me but............................... ::) ::)
Capello was just asked was he going to go with a 4-4-2 today & he said that he wouldn't and was more likely to go with a 747 coz there was more legroom for the trip home :o :o
Ouccccchhhh :disbelief :disbelief
-
Excellent stuff!!! ;D
-
Much better by England! A lot of misses but they created some chances, it was a good game to watch!
-
Much better by England! A lot of misses but they created some chances, it was a good game to watch!
They were playing mince and still only scraped by in an easy group, yet they still think they can win it. He-he, you got to laugh. :lol
-
well of course they think they can win it! What's the point in going there otherwise?
-
Sorry, England, Sunday it will be over! ;D
LE
-
Sorry, England, Sunday it will be over! ;D
LE
Germany - England ;)
Nice!
-
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
Meh, doesn't slow the game down much in rugby, tennis etc. As a football fan I would gladly sacrifice this minor delay to get fair results.
Nothing stopping the fourth official having a little TV screen and advising the ref via headphone.
Tennis and Rugby are all stops and starts - that is when the video is used. You can't stop a football match just to see if you made the right decision or not.
-
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
[/quote]
tut tut,forget about it ??? su're we had a few pints of guinness & it was gone in a flash ;) ;) - a bit like Maradonna hand of God in 86 su're you'd never hear about that incident either,nobody ever talks about it ::) ::)BTW, you must have been looking at different games to me coz Ireland were by far the better team over the two legs & I'm not looking through green tinted glasses either 8)
Seriously though,there should be video evidence introduced in soccer,su're you have pre madonnas rolling around the ground with nothing wrong with them already who slow the game up no end & theres nothing wrong with it???Whats the difference with a fourth official who stops to clock for 30 seconds to have a look at an incident which may or may not cost a team a place in the world cup - it only makes sence to me anyway?
Just heard that USA are meeting Algeria in Pretoria @ 3pm & England are meeting France at the airport @ 6 :P :P :P
[/quote]
There can be 30 or 40 'incidents' in every game. It would interfere with the flow of the game. The answer is simple - more officials. 4 linesman for starters.
-
Sorry, England, Sunday it will be over! ;D
LE
After tonights game i would rather we played Germany than Ghana - we can beat Germany - we play a similar game. Ghana were awesome running and chasing everything and with composure too. Sorry USA.
-
Sorry, England, Sunday it will be over! ;D
LE
- we can beat Germany -
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
LE
-
It's a fact :)
-
GOODBYE ITALY
-
Goodbye Germany, thanks for coming!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
Sorry, England, Sunday it will be over! ;D
LE
Wait and see!!!
-
Sorry, no time to discuss, must make my vuvuzela ready! :-* :-*
Or as Mark would have it:
"When It Comes To... Penalty"
:lol
LE
-
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4707/p3070110.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/p3070110.jpg/)
Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
-
Sorry, no time to discuss, must make my vuvuzela ready! :-* :-*
Or as Mark would have it:
"When It Comes To... Penalty"
:lol
LE
Ah yes but we have Mr James in goal, beat him I think not!!!
-
Well.
Great game by our young team, all my sympathy goes to England, it was a fair game and a real thrill! Only pity is that Rooney wasn't lined up :lol ...
Now Argentina is waiting... :o
LE
-
It was a good game and the young German team played very well BUT if England's 2nd goal hadn't been wrongfully disallowed.... iAT 2-2 it was another game altogether....but that's football for you.
So, we were talking about cameras earlier... is it going to happen now??
-
It was a good game and the young German team played very well BUT if England's 2nd goal hadn't been wrongfully disallowed.... iAT 2-2 it was another game altogether....but that's football for you.
So, we were talking about cameras earlier... is it going to happen now??
1966 in reverse anyone? Only that given goal cost Germany the final! What goes around comes around.
Germany should have been 3 or 4 up at that point anyway so it wouldn't have made any difference - they were by a large margin the better team and worryingly for England fans the younger team too.
-
well, I don't know, I still can't tell if that goal was in or not in 66. Everybody could see this one WAS, but like I said, that's football, and as long as the rules about cameras don't change, the ref's word is final. If he says it isn't a goal, then it isn't. It gives us England fans a way out. (well you know, we was robbed!)
-
At the end of the day the 'far' better team won on the day. Not a huge footie fan but from what I saw it is about time our old millionaires were told to go away and let's do what the Germans have rightly done and invest in some youth!!!
-
French proverb : "Soccer is a game were 11 men play against 11 others and in the end Germany win"
-
This German team also would have been capable to take the 2:2 and still win. This team with all the young guys in it (Thomas M
-
This German team also would have been capable to take the 2:2 and still win.
LE
Maybe, or not, we'll never know
-
Uhh, it's Germany vs. Argentina on Saturday... :o :o :o
Let's just hope they'll keep their current shape and won't pull another Germany vs. Serbia...
-
Todays was the worst game for argentina, they played really bad for me, on the otherside, germany did a great work with england, lets wait til saturday CMON ARGENTINA!!
-
My, Netherlands vs. Slovakia was dead-boring today... The orange team didn't really show a good game.
-
Todays was the worst game for argentina, they played really bad for me, on the otherside, germany did a great work with england, lets wait til saturday CMON ARGENTINA!!
How come I have the feeling that for Argentina the worst game has still to come? 8)
LE
Gimme Hope, Jo...achim
-
French proverb : "Soccer is a game were 11 men play against 11 others and in the end Germany win"
actually not a french proverb, it was Gary Lineker who said that.
-
Todays was the worst game for argentina, they played really bad for me, on the otherside, germany did a great work with england, lets wait til saturday CMON ARGENTINA!!
How come I have the feeling that for Argentina the worst game has still to come? 8)
LE
Gimme Hope, Jo...achim
we are going to take revenge for 2006 cup and not only that, we are going to win the cup vs brazil in the final
-
I think Holland, Argentina and Brazil all play efficiently, but their games are boring as hell. I fell asleep during the second half of the Holland game last night.
Germany plays the most enjoyable football - with a few exceptions.
-
Surely no one can argue against the introduction of technology after the Germany/Argentina decisions.
Still, in both cases they were far superior to the opposition and would have gone through regardless, no question.
-
In fairness we'd have put up a better show than the French - if it wasn't for the hand of Thierry we could be world champions ::) ::)
Yeah right ................. but we could have!!!!!!!!!! :disbelief :disbelief
The faulty is the referee and moreover the FIFA
As long as they will refuse video assist this will happen.
The IRB or the NFL have long understood this.
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
We're cool with it but dont tell the English or the Mexican's though,it might still be a bit of a sore point :'( :'(
-
We cannot introduce video evidence as this would slow down the game. Using it in retrospect would also be a mistake as fans would leave a match without being sure of the result. Madness. Also, there would be no more discussion of the games like we are having now or the fans on the way home!
It's about time Ireland gave up on this handball rubbish and got on with it. France deserved to win the game anyway and still had a chance to defend the cross; Henry never actually scored with his hand.
Meh, doesn't slow the game down much in rugby, tennis etc. As a football fan I would gladly sacrifice this minor delay to get fair results.
Nothing stopping the fourth official having a little TV screen and advising the ref via headphone.
Tennis and Rugby are all stops and starts - that is when the video is used. You can't stop a football match just to see if you made the right decision or not.
Surely no more stops and starts to check a bit of video than there are when whole teams surround the referee to complain about a decision he has made. ;D
-
To me this has been the worst World Cup for cheating, cynical fouls and outright gamesmanship. Some of the incidents have actually made me feel physically sick at the depths a so-called human being can stoop to just to gain an advantage or get a fellow player disciplined. Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?
As a lover of the game I feel it is time that the authorities finally got a grip because they simply do not have one at present. Refs are to frightened to be too heavy handed for fear of reprisals, and are more often too lenient. If they were supported by FIFA there wouldn't be many games actually finishing because once a team goes below 7 players the game is abandoned.
As for players surrounding the ref. It is so pathetic that it should be an instant booking for any form of dissent. Unfortunately it is win at all costs for most managers and this feeds through into the team and then it is picked up by young players and the vicious circle continues until the (top-flight professional) game, as it is now is basically filth feeding on filth. Parasites basically.
I know it is a generalisation and there are some good level-headed players - not many though.
-
To me this has been the worst World Cup for cheating, cynical fouls and outright gamesmanship. Some of the incidents have actually made me feel physically sick at the depths a so-called human being can stoop to just to gain an advantage or get a fellow player disciplined. Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?
As a lover of the game I feel it is time that the authorities finally got a grip because they simply do not have one at present. Refs are to frightened to be too heavy handed for fear of reprisals, and are more often too lenient. If they were supported by FIFA there wouldn't be many games actually finishing because once a team goes below 7 players the game is abandoned.
As for players surrounding the ref. It is so pathetic that it should be an instant booking for any form of dissent. Unfortunately it is win at all costs for most managers and this feeds through into the team and then it is picked up by young players and the vicious circle continues until the (top-flight professional) game, as it is now is basically filth feeding on filth. Parasites basically.
I know it is a generalisation and there are some good level-headed players - not many though.
I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go. One cannot compare football to other sports where it has been implemented as each sport is unique. One must tackle the cause of unsporstmanlike behaviour at it's root and it is caused, IMO by there being too much money involved in the game now. That's why they need to "win at all costs."
-
As a lover of the game
Hey, Simon! Very good post, lots of good points here! I feel your love for the game in every word of it. Just yesterday we had another off-side-goal for Spain, which is a pity, although they were really much better. i agree with you on Manuel Neuer, the German keeper. However, there will probably no
professional player in these days who would have said "Hey ref, it was a goal!". People like Chrisiano Ronaldo are good to be dismissed from this tournament though.
Let's looking forward some good and hopefully sporting quarterfinals!
LE
-
To me this has been the worst World Cup for cheating, cynical fouls and outright gamesmanship. Some of the incidents have actually made me feel physically sick at the depths a so-called human being can stoop to just to gain an advantage or get a fellow player disciplined. Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?
As a lover of the game I feel it is time that the authorities finally got a grip because they simply do not have one at present. Refs are to frightened to be too heavy handed for fear of reprisals, and are more often too lenient. If they were supported by FIFA there wouldn't be many games actually finishing because once a team goes below 7 players the game is abandoned.
As for players surrounding the ref. It is so pathetic that it should be an instant booking for any form of dissent. Unfortunately it is win at all costs for most managers and this feeds through into the team and then it is picked up by young players and the vicious circle continues until the (top-flight professional) game, as it is now is basically filth feeding on filth. Parasites basically.
I know it is a generalisation and there are some good level-headed players - not many though.
I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go. One cannot compare football to other sports where it has been implemented as each sport is unique. One must tackle the cause of unsporstmanlike behaviour at it's root and it is caused, IMO by there being too much money involved in the game now. That's why they need to "win at all costs."
You are right, soccer will be soon the only remaining sport where you can cheat, that everybody will know you cheated but nothing will happen to correct this.
Video is not the perfect solution but this is now the unavoidable answer to put a little more equity into that sport.
Video judging offside for example is very fast, almost instantly and reliable whereas the human is just physicaly unable to look into two direction at the exact same time...
-
In a massive tournament like the WC I cannot see why we can't just have a few more pitchside officials. 2 more linesman for starters and an official on each goal line. The miniscule cost of this would be far outweighed by the benefits.
-
As a lover of the game
Hey, Simon! Very good post, lots of good points here! I feel your love for the game in every word of it. Just yesterday we had another off-side-goal for Spain, which is a pity, although they were really much better. i agree with you on Manuel Neuer, the German keeper. However, there will probably no
professional player in these days who would have said "Hey ref, it was a goal!". People like Chrisiano Ronaldo are good to be dismissed from this tournament though.
Let's looking forward some good and hopefully sporting quarterfinals!
LE
Exactly LE - not many players would admit to it being a goal but when a ball has crossed the line for all to see then they are on a hiding to nothing and it shows them for what they really are.
-
Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?
There's not a single player in the tournament who would have done anything else.
-
I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go.
You don't even need video techology to see if the ball crossed the line, the ball has a chip in it and the goal posts have sensors, simple, same as F1.
-
Even germany's keeper tried to hide the fact the ball crossed the line - how unsporting is that?
There's not a single player in the tournament who would have done anything else.
Exactly - that was my main point in the original post - they would all seek to gain an advantage at the other's expense.
I forgot to add - the feigning of injuries or the massive exaggeration of them is also sickening. The Japan team, in one game i saw just got up and got on with the game, no animations or amateur dramatics.
-
I agree with most of what you say but don't think video evidence is the way to go.
You don't even need video techology to see if the ball crossed the line, the ball has a chip in it and the goal posts have sensors, simple, same as F1.
And cyclops in tennis:-)
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-apigHJC3I
LOOK THAT!!!
-
:lol :lol ;D
Thanks for the link! I admit I was laughing myself into pieces also I better should cry myself a river about these idiots...
However, I like the music on it. Is it Mike McGoldrick on flute? ::)
LE
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1CCgt_Fqe4
Check this one out. Mind you, it is expected of scum like Rangers.
-
pathetic! >:(
-
Scum :o :o whats wrong with rangers Dusty ;) ;)
BTW, Lafferty never dived in his life :disbelief :disbelief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3R7E5Md5_c
-
Seems he's just an all round nice guy:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/2864423/Rangers-star-Kyle-Lafferty-parks-his-Bentley-in-a-disabled-space.html
Scum. Sub-human scum.
-
What an idiot!
However, I think we do loose track here a little bit?? These failures surely should not be compared with the German keeper not telling the ref that the ball was in, shouldn't it? So he might seemed to be a little over-committed, but in no way this shows a bad character like that sucker above has with his 22 years - blimey 22 and driving such a car... :disbelief
LE
-
Kyle Lafferty was disciplined by Rangers for that shameful incident as you are no doubt aware and please remember that speaking as a season ticket holder when you call Rangers scum you are also calling me scum as I am a part of the club.
P.S. I take it that no Aberdeen player has ever been guilty of simulation?
-
This one that from gilardino its really impressive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLnCrjWACHU
-
Kyle Lafferty was disciplined by Rangers for that shameful incident as you are no doubt aware and please remember that speaking as a season ticket holder when you call Rangers scum you are also calling me scum as I am a part of the club.
P.S. I take it that no Aberdeen player has ever been guilty of simulation?
No doubt there are some decent people supporting Rangers out there and I'm sure you are one of them. Sadly you are in a minority.
-
Scum :o :o whats wrong with rangers Dusty ;) ;)
BTW, Lafferty never dived in his life :disbelief :disbelief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3R7E5Md5_c
I was at that game and my seat is almost right behind that (13th row) incident and I can tell you that Scott Brown fully deserved his red card and the slow motion replays don't do the incident any justice. It was an agressive head butt to Lafferty's chest that Brown gave and the slow motion only makes it look petty. At the game though, there was no doubt in my mind the ref was going to send him off.
-
Scum :o :o whats wrong with rangers Dusty ;) ;)
BTW, Lafferty never dived in his life :disbelief :disbelief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3R7E5Md5_c
I was at that game and my seat is almost right behind that (13th row) incident and I can tell you that Scott Brown fully deserved his red card and the slow motion replays don't do the incident any justice. It was an agressive head butt to Lafferty's chest that Brown gave and the slow motion only makes it look petty. At the game though, there was no doubt in my mind the ref was going to send him off.
?
-
Anyway, back on topic, congarts to all out Dutch friends. :)
-
Anyway, back on topic, congarts to all out Dutch friends. :)
yeaaahh come on your oranges.. (and apples too)
-
Oh dear - it seems that crime does pay! In another sport a 'goal' would have been given for blatent cheating but the Uruguayans got away with it.
-
:) As a follower of almost every other football code, I still can't believe that the one football code that needs video confirmation of a "score" (cause they a so rare compared to the other codes) still don't use it. Diving as if hit by a shot gun should be outlawed by video as well, and give them 6 games on the sidelines to get over their fake injury.
In Aussie rules we have a video review after every game to report any off the ball, or incidents that the umpire missed, and just last week a St. Kilda player got 9-weeks for his attempts to tag his direct opponent out of the game. All 9 as a result of off the play incidents picked up by the
-
Tomorow
Argentina 3 - germany 1!
:D
-
:lol
LE
-
Oh dear - it seems that crime does pay! In another sport a 'goal' would have been given for blatent cheating but the Uruguayans got away with it.
I have mixed feelings about that, on the one hand it is cheating and that was a sure goal otherwise, but I know if I had been in his place, I would have done exactly the same thing. It's a reflex, you don't have time to think.
I admired the player from Ghana who missed that last second penalty and then got himself together and shot in the top corner in the shoot-out. I felt very sorry for him at the end. He's gonna have nightmares for years about that miss.
Now, come on Germany this afternoon!!!
-
Oh dear - it seems that crime does pay! In another sport a 'goal' would have been given for blatent cheating but the Uruguayans got away with it.
I have mixed feelings about that, on the one hand it is cheating and that was a sure goal otherwise, but I know if I had been in his place, I would have done exactly the same thing. It's a reflex, you don't have time to think.
I admired the player from Ghana who missed that last second penalty and then got himself together and shot in the top corner in the shoot-out. I felt very sorry for him at the end. He's gonna have nightmares for years about that miss.
Now, come on Germany this afternoon!!!
I agree it can be instinctive but it would only be fair to allow a goal (I know that can't happen unless there is a rule change this is all hypothesis) as it would most likely have gone in had he not stopped it. perhaps the penalties are not as harsh - a longer ban may be the only answer.
-
Another bunch of dirty rotten cheating scoundrels sent packing:-)
Fantastic performance by the Germans and so clean and well executed too. I want them now to go on and win it as they play football as it is meant to be played. Probably my favourite game of the tournament so far.
Oh, and that means England, on paper are better than Argentina - we managed a goal (or 2!) against the Germans:-) - maybe Maradonna will come over here for some coaching lessons to see how it can be done.
-
Oh dear - it seems that crime does pay! In another sport a 'goal' would have been given for blatent cheating but the Uruguayans got away with it.
I have mixed feelings about that, on the one hand it is cheating and that was a sure goal otherwise, but I know if I had been in his place, I would have done exactly the same thing. It's a reflex, you don't have time to think.
I admired the player from Ghana who missed that last second penalty and then got himself together and shot in the top corner in the shoot-out. I felt very sorry for him at the end. He's gonna have nightmares for years about that miss.
Now, come on Germany this afternoon!!!
Actually i have had another look at the handball and it wasn't just a reflex in my opinion. He nearly dislocated his body to do it - it was not like it was going past him and he stuck his hand out - it was a violent movement to intercept.
-
Yeah, they were great! 8) 8) 8) 8) Will be a loooong and LOUD night here in Germany! My voice however is a little bit damaged now. :lol Couldn't believe how well this team played! Who needs a cheat slip for penalty shoot-out anyway?
Now Spain and then beating the Netherlands in the final!
LE
-
Another bunch of dirty rotten cheating scoundrels sent packing:-)
At least we wont have to look at Heinze rolling around the ground like he's after been shot, what a wa***r,hitting the camera when they scored last week as well when the camera man got too close - class or what ::) ::) - its a pity Messi is going home but the germans were awesome :o :o England didnt look too bad now compaired with Argentina :'( :'(
-
I'm at Goodwood with the family and have the German flag with me. A Lot of English People telling me 'well done, Germany!' :)
-
sad day for me and for all argentians citizens, this german team is incredible, the play fast and slow when its requiered, they are a real team, in the other side Argentina no, we are onle 11 players trying to score with no team sense
Go paraguay, and uruguay now, the only 2 southamerican teams left!
-
Uruguay stole the game, Ghana should have been qualified.
Rule should be changed, if a player other than the goal keeper use hands to prevent the ball to enter then no penalty but validated goal instead like for Basket Ball.
Fantastic Germany team today - nothing to say.
-
Final:
Germany - Netherlands ;)
-
Uruguay stole the game, Ghana should have been qualified.
Rule should be changed, if a player other than the goal keeper use hands to prevent the ball to enter then no penalty but validated goal instead like for Basket Ball.
Fantastic Germany team today - nothing to say.
And a penalty try awarded in Rugby Union. it make sense and is the only way to stop down and out cheating.
-
I'm actually happy for Uruguay. Ghana had its chance shortly before the game ended but that guy missed the penalty ;D
As for the German team, wow!! :o That was one hell of a game. I missed the first goal, I was in Frankfurt with a friend and we wanted to watch the game at a bar but it was too hot and crowded so we decided to go to her place. We were just five minutes late and thought, oh so what, nothing will happen during the first five mins... But then we heard the neighbours cheer :o
The game was so thrilling I had to cover my eyes sometimes ;D
Now I want them to make it into the final. And I want them to win the cup, they deserve it. Kudos to Joachim L
-
On no, Paul the octopus-oracle has predicted Germany will lose against Spain tomorrow! :'(
-
Oh, the Dutch will eat it after their victory! No worries here... ;D
LE
-
Joachim L
-
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
-
Tonight I hope Germany wins, then we can take revanche from 1974 ;D
-
Revenge for 1974?? Do you know 'the last laugh'? ;D
-
Once there is a time:
football is a play, 11 to 11 , in the end .................... wins
We are going to change that in The Netherlands : ;D
-
I was only refering to a MK song! ;D
-
:P
-
Revenge for 1940?
I'll get my coat.
-
Joachim L
-
I don't have anything against longish hair in a man but it's the wave that bothers me ;D
-
Germany out...
Netherlands - Spain :o
-
Sorry Dutchessy, but now I am for Spain, because they beat us and won deservedly... :disbelief :(
... and they do look better... !! :lol
After 2000 came 2001....
LE
-
No can do.... The Netherlands will win from Spain. I really know it.
I feel it in my little toe ;D
-
I don't have anything against longish hair in a man but it's the wave that bothers me ;D
Oh okay, well I can understand that. But somehow it suits him ;D What haircut do you suggest? Something short and pointy?
I agree LE, my fingers are crossed for Spain now. I'm sick and tired of Hollands boring, crappy and random "oh wow, we made a goal, how did we do that without any skills? Oh right, we got lucky" play!!
And oh my, I am so upset that it's only the third or even forth place for Germany again. They finally need a reward for their amazing development, FFS!
I just hope Jogi L
-
He reminds me of Neil Morrissey
-
He reminds me of Neil Morrissey
Nooo, Morrisey's haircut is uglier ;D
-
What haircut do you suggest? Something short and pointy?
I think there are programs/webistes that allow you change the haircut on a photo. I'll try one of those when I have a minute. ;D
Very disappointed about Germany, not only because I had a bet on them (OK, mainly)
-
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07072010/58/world-cup-2010-world-cup-best-worst-looking-xi.html
-
LOL Rollergirl, you are incredible, finding this article. :disbelief
But I can't share the opinion about the best looking, some of them are really aaaaaaaaaarghhhhhh to me ;D
As always, a matter of taste
-
I agree with you Ingrid, apart from Landon Donovan (and it could be just the topless bit I like about this photo ;D) none of them would have made my list!
-
Uhh, no German player on the list? And where's Jogi? ;D
Needless to say I'm sad Germany got kicked out, too. Being third (or forth) again must be getting frustrating for them. Second place in 2002, third in 2006, second in 2008...
-
Just bet who will be world cup winner in 2014, when it all takes place in ... wait a minute.... oh yeah... BRAZIL! ;D ;D
LE
-
Germany lost 2/7 of their games. England lost 1/4.
Statistically speaking (lies, damn lies and statistics i know!) England were the better team on games won:-)
-
Yeah, England with 3:5 goals, whereas Germany has 16:5 goals... Now which statistics helps you to clarify THAT? :-*
LE
-
Currently watching the title of this thread (which might come to an end tonight), that Dutch kung-fu... sorry, ... "football" match that will hopefully bring
Spain to its first World Cup title! No chance for the team with the most fouls and yellow cards in the tournament hopefully... :disbelief
LE
-
Disgraceful performance by both the Dutch and the Ref. They should have been down to 9 men within 30 mins. The ref. bottled it or he was knobbled by FIFA to make sure the game wasn't abandoned!
-
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs024.ash2/34550_1527713957197_1365143667_1435116_1048198_n.jpg)
-
Well, it was raining yellow yesterday... ::) I've seen better matches... :lol
-
Well, it was raining yellow yesterday... ::) I've seen better matches... :lol
Its a shame that when you play against a team that plays very good football, your only weapon it
-
Well, it was raining yellow yesterday... ::) I've seen better matches... :lol
Its a shame that when you play against a team that plays very good football, your only weapon it
-
That's what I say. I've seen better matches with a more "friendly" approach... And yes, I'm talking about the Dutch team. ;) Personally, I think "we" deserved at least one red extra (THE kick if you know what I mean)... ::) But still, Spain is the winner! ;D
-
That's what I say. I've seen better matches with a more "friendly" approach...
Like Uruguay - Germany.
And it seems that they did a great price selling their stock of unused yellow cards, cond. mint , full set, still shrink-wrapped...
-
The whole end game was a disgrace for all teams who played aesthetic, great football during the tournament. 120 mins of pure boredom and a dozen fouls (hey, great sports spirit, Holland)! The final should have been Germany vs. Uruguay. Both of them would have deserved the cup.
I still can't stand the Dutch team and their "Rumpelfu
-
The gif file sI put here where meant to be funny, but as I offended my dutch friends here, I delete them.
Sorry guys :-[
-
I guess the fact that it was the final match played a role in there too. But that doesn't justify the way of playing. Germany - Uruguay was much more interesting to see (although I couldn't do anything else because of heart flutterings). :lol Way too hot to do anything with the heat...
-
Come on people, Spain was playing hard too. They were crying on the ground by every little sliding :disbelief Is that sportive? NO!
Schwalbe-football...
We were playing too hard, true. But don't see Spain as an Angel-team... The referee wasn't goot at all! Because he didn't give a 100% corner to
Holland, Spain scored a minute later in the counter. So Spain got lucky with that goal.
And Jbaent:
Stop moaning.... you're worldchampion, congrats! Enjoy! But stop posting those stupid GIF's/Video's.
-
I can`t laugh about it thos gif`s. :-X I totally agree with Dutchessy! He is right, if a dutch one even looked at a spanin player they already fell on the ground!
-
I
-
I can`t laugh about it thos gif`s. :-X I totally agree with Dutchessy! He is right, if a dutch one even looked at a spanin player they already fell on the ground!
After a Street Fighter action, obviously ;D
-
Well, I would say that football is a very sensitive subject ;D Maybe that is the only explanation!
-
Well, I would say that football is a very sensitive subject ;D Maybe that is the only explanation!
Yes it is, actually I was very worried about the match, because we were playing against HOLLAND!!!! The football Spain is playing from four years back is based in the same idea that made Holland team famous, so we were playing against the master!!!!
-
I
-
It's not right. De Jong and Van Bommel made 1 hard foul each, the rest wasn't a worth a card. The media blows up the story and slaughtered the Dutch team. :disbelief
The 2 yellow cards (red) of Heitinga was not right! Iniesta made a schwalbe the second time... fell to the ground for nothing... It's just ridiculous
There are always two sides of the story, thats obvious ;)
Reading international chronicles (not spanish and not dutch) made all more clear to me. Actually there is one I read very shocking:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_162-20010211-10391697.html
But hey, its written by USA reporters, what they know about football? ;D
However, The Netherlands made a very good competition, they deserved to reach the final, and I do hope they do it again, and the next time, they do it with his famous style, brilliant football. Spain showed that its possible to win playing that way, thanks to the dutch for teach us many years ago that glorious football style.
-
Yes, but you talk about violence... That's way over the top. The kick of Nigel De Jong was hard. But just a case of bad timing. He didn't want to
kick Xabi Alonso in 2 pieces ofcourse ;) No intention to knock him down.
-
Yes, but you talk about violence... That's way over the top. The kick of Nigel De Jong was hard. But just a case of bad timing. He didn't want to
kick Xabi Alonso in 2 pieces ofcourse ;) No intention to knock him down.
There are different ways of play hard, and most of the De Jong and Van Bommel actions were far from hard, and the general attitude of all the dutch team was to play very hard, sometimes crossing the line, and that, for a team that knows how to play, and historically teach the world world how to do it, its violence.
I still admire the elegant players that are Sneijder, Van der Vaar, Robben or Van Persie, I even admired Van Bommel, but I guess that a world cup final made you think that you want to win, no matter how.
Football still owns The Netherlands one world cup, and I hope the next one could be yours, actually, what about win it in four years against Spain? But this time, playing like they know, Deal?
-
I watched the final standing outside a bar in Corso Garibaldi about 1min walk from Piazza Napoleone in Lucca with around 50 Dutch fans. The authorities had set up a huge screen and from nowhere all these orange tops and hats appeared! Great atmosphere with the great fans and they took the defeat very well.
Personally I thought The Netherlands tactics were to put the Spanish off their game but Dutchessy is spot on with his assessment of most of the Spanish players with respect to their play acting and in particular Inieasta which is disappointing because he doesn't need to do this sort of thing being one of the best players in the world.
-
Yes, but you talk about violence... That's way over the top. The kick of Nigel De Jong was hard. But just a case of bad timing. He didn't want to
kick Xabi Alonso in 2 pieces ofcourse ;) No intention to knock him down.
There are different ways of play hard, and most of the De Jong and Van Bommel actions were far from hard, and the general attitude of all the dutch team was to play very hard, sometimes crossing the line, and that, for a team that knows how to play, and historically teach the world world how to do it, its violence.
I still admire the elegant players that are Sneijder, Van der Vaar, Robben or Van Persie, I even admired Van Bommel, but I guess that a world cup final made you think that you want to win, no matter how.
Football still owns The Netherlands one world cup, and I hope the next one could be yours, actually, what about win it in four years against Spain? But this time, playing like they know, Deal?
Please stop and watch the game again...
All the dutch team played very hard? Oh come on... Just 2 or 3 fouls were too hard. The rest was normal and the spanish players did act that it were HUGE fouls. But they were touched lightly.
Iniesta did a after-kick on Van Bommel and that deserves also a red card. The referee didn't see it! Sportive? No! And yes, it's the final, they must win, no matter what. Spain with acting, Holland with rough tackles. But no violence, that's a hard word...
-
Germanys "BILD" newspaper had a very funny head line: "Kick's Final: Our NICE football only would have interfered..." (Treter Finale: UNSER sch
-
Please stop and watch the game again...
No thank you, it still hurts ;D
Forget about it, dont take it personal :-*
-
The reason for Germany's "failure" at the World Cup has been revealed - gay players in the team.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/13/germany-footballers-gay-michael-becker
-
The reason for Germany's "failure" at the World Cup has been revealed - gay players in the team.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/13/germany-footballers-gay-michael-becker
No wonder England gave a "backs to the wall" performance! ;) ;D
-
Gay football players?? Naaaaahhh.... :lol
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ELzM_S573r8/Szdzpk-UUjI/AAAAAAAANgM/himnFvZoczw/s400/schwule+fussballer+11.jpg)
LE
-
I've always said Ronaldo sucks. ;)
-
The reason for Germany's "failure" at the World Cup has been revealed - gay players in the team.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/13/germany-footballers-gay-michael-becker
Thats crap, Germany played very good during all the championship, I suppose newspapers has to sell every day, so...