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Author Topic: Rock and roll hall of fame  (Read 64738 times)

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1350 on: April 16, 2018, 02:15:09 pm »
A fan is nobody for you. He's not a friend, he's not a family member, he merely likes that you do and that's all. I think some money-related things like buying tickets/CDs/memorabilia/instruments/whatever could lead to a conclusion, that he (or she) owes you something. But this is just an illusion! So Mark doesn't need to "love" his fans, because he's not supposed to.

I can't agree with this. I think it's a mutual thing. Yes, for example Mark does what he wants to do artistically (certainly does at this time of his career and perhaps always has or maybe not) but without fans things get complicated. What's the difference between a rehearsal and a concert? Fans. Does Mark like to play live. He does. Why? Take away those fans and it's just a rehearsal. Would he tour empty venues for months? Not even for a week if he could do it for free.

Fans are even more important at the beginning of ones career. Fans, audience, call it whatever you want.

Now imagine a fresh artist, a talented one if you want, doing what he loves doing best, he was dreaming about making a living as a musician but it's at this point in his career that he really for the first time realized that he could perhaps actually make it. And ask him how he feels about fans. Are they nobody for him? Artists are getting a lot more from fans, not just money.

But even if it was just money and nothing else there is a huge difference between a successful career of a certain artist because he was understood and appreciated while he was still alive and made tons of money in the process and another artist that was perhaps even better than the first yet was totally not understood and not appreciated for what he was and had to die miserable, poor and alone only for the world to realize  posthumously what it was all about. Poe, Dickinson, Monet, Kafka, van Gogh and even Bach in a certain way. To name just a few of the well known ones. They had no fans!  :wave

(Bach had fans, but only as an organist, not composer, and probably didn't die miserable, poor and alone)

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1351 on: April 16, 2018, 02:51:21 pm »
D i r e  S t r a i t s, f u l l  s t o p  p l u s   p e r i o d.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1352 on: April 16, 2018, 03:04:44 pm »

and that will be historically the last DS public appearence


I don't get why this is such a big deal anyway? How often do people sit around speaking about an acts last appearance?

I just looked up John Lennon, a far more legendary artist than DS.

His last appearance was joining Elton John for a couple of songs. I don't think people really get concerned by that.
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1353 on: April 16, 2018, 03:17:38 pm »
D i r e  S t r a i t s, f u l l  s t o p  p l u s   p e r i o d.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1354 on: April 16, 2018, 04:12:30 pm »
There is news on MK’s website.

http://www.markknopfler.com

But still no word from MK. Complete silence......
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 04:14:59 pm by cannibals »

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1355 on: April 16, 2018, 04:23:34 pm »
On MKNews too :think

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1356 on: April 16, 2018, 04:57:45 pm »
The news in MK official website comes from Mknews...

It was always like that. It's written in the mk.com site...
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1357 on: April 16, 2018, 05:31:35 pm »
What I do not understand is why DS got inducted by John İlsley ?


I think Mark is wrong, but this shame is something else.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1358 on: April 16, 2018, 06:08:46 pm »
What I do not understand is why DS got inducted by John İlsley ?


I think Mark is wrong, but this shame is something else.

They were told at short notice there was no one to induct them so John said "would you like me to do it."  Simple as that really.  That's why he read the induction from a sheet of paper but had his other speech rehearsed.  He wrote the induction only 15 mins before going on stage.  Complete farce but a big well done to John.
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1359 on: April 16, 2018, 06:13:26 pm »
What I do not understand is why DS got inducted by John İlsley ?


I think Mark is wrong, but this shame is something else.

They were told at short notice there was no one to induct them so John said "would you like me to do it."  Simple as that really.  That's why he read the induction from a sheet of paper but had his other speech rehearsed.  He wrote the induction only 15 mins before going on stage.  Complete farce but a big well done to John.

Of course, Big John is the MAN!! And i'm so happy to see him in a good shape. He has been through alot.

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1360 on: April 16, 2018, 06:16:20 pm »
It was evident that he was nervous. His hands.

Dire Straits’s Rock Hall Induction Was a Weirdly Beautiful Mess :)

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1361 on: April 16, 2018, 06:50:18 pm »
It was evident that he was nervous. His hands.

Dire Straits’s Rock Hall Induction Was a Weirdly Beautiful Mess :)

Anyone would be nervous reading from a sheet of paper a speech they'd scribbled down only a few moments ago!

I found the video where I got the info from.  Not sure if it was posted on here (forgive me if it has).  Some other interesting stuff too:


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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1362 on: April 16, 2018, 06:58:39 pm »
John did not know that he would introduce DS? The organization of RnRHOF was strange. "Life is strange"

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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1363 on: April 16, 2018, 07:08:08 pm »
John did not know that he would introduce DS? The organization of RnRHOF was strange. "Life is strange"

"Strange" is far too kindly a word to use!  If someone had pulled out then they should have had a stand-by. This was either very poorly organised or a deliberate attempt to punish DS because Mark didn't turn up. By their actions they not only punished DS but us, their fans.
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Re: Rock and roll of fame
« Reply #1364 on: April 16, 2018, 07:25:23 pm »
Obviously the HOF are a complete shambles and MK was right to steer clear of the whole affair.
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