Post by: andychap on August 01, 2017, 05:16:08 PM
So it looks like the secret project is a Broadway musical !
Post by: darkshiver on August 01, 2017, 05:38:14 PM
https://issuu.com/372wn/docs/372wn_vol_i_issue5
Star Page 40-41
Post by: quizzaciously on August 01, 2017, 05:40:20 PM
Post by: Crusty on August 01, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
I have really lost interest in all this mambo jambo aka secret project. Mark rarely gives us what we want so I'd rather be pessimistic - or perhaps realistic? - so that I don't get disappointed when it finally comes out.
Probably another studio album, a documentary with great visuals and poor content and a soundtrack for some obscure movie nobody cares about. Yes, Mark made me become a bitter man :disbelief ::)
Why people think MK owe them anything? MK make "product", you like product, you buy product. He must thank you? You don't like product, nobody mak you buy product. MK don't care - always some people will buy his product anyway. And he make enough money from royalty so he not have to worry about sale.
Young MK will to never come back. Old MK is now and what you have. Take or leave, and stop dream and be disappointed.
Oh my dear god, where the hell did I write Mark owe me anything? LOL
I'm not even going there.
My 6 sense tolld me "want" means "deserve". Don't trust my 6 sense LOL
Post by: Crusty on August 01, 2017, 07:04:54 PM
I don't like musicals, but I am curios what it is. Is MK making music for whole musical? Only a few songs? Maybe old songs to made adapted to musical format?
Post by: border_reiver on August 01, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
So I guess Richard's not a part of next tour lineup.
Post by: Banjo99uk on August 01, 2017, 07:41:22 PM
LOLNo, Julie Andrews will be though.
So I guess Richard's not a part of next tour lineup.
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 01, 2017, 07:58:42 PM
I have really lost interest in all this mambo jambo aka secret project. Mark rarely gives us what we want so I'd rather be pessimistic - or perhaps realistic? - so that I don't get disappointed when it finally comes out.
Probably another studio album, a documentary with great visuals and poor content and a soundtrack for some obscure movie nobody cares about. Yes, Mark made me become a bitter man :disbelief ::)
Why people think MK owe them anything? MK make "product", you like product, you buy product. He must thank you? You don't like product, nobody mak you buy product. MK don't care - always some people will buy his product anyway. And he make enough money from royalty so he not have to worry about sale.
Young MK will to never come back. Old MK is now and what you have. Take or leave, and stop dream and be disappointed.
Oh my dear god, where the hell did I write Mark owe me anything? LOL
I'm not even going there.
My 6 sense tolld me "want" means "deserve". Don't trust my 6 sense LOL
Yeah, your sixth sense needs a reboot.
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 01, 2017, 08:09:13 PM
I've just been reading an article via Richard Bennett's facebook page and to quote ' He's been back with Diamond as the superstar celebrates his 50th year of touring and while Knopfler works on songs for a Broadway musical'
So it looks like the secret project is a Broadway musical !
Now it's speculation chaper II: what musical is that? :think
Post by: Lis on August 01, 2017, 08:09:29 PM
Broadway Musical at the end.... but nothing confirmed yet... time to ask Mr. Fletcher...? ;D ;DWow!! Darkshiver, this was a great find -- thanks for sharing the aricle and updating us!!!
https://issuu.com/372wn/docs/372wn_vol_i_issue5
Star Page 40-41
LOLSorry, I don't follow. Why would Richard not be part of MK's next tour line-up; did I miss something?
So I guess Richard's not a part of next tour lineup.
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 01, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
Broadway Musical at the end.... but nothing confirmed yet... time to ask Mr. Fletcher...? ;D ;DWow!! Darkshiver, this was a great find -- thanks for sharing the aricle and updating us!!!
https://issuu.com/372wn/docs/372wn_vol_i_issue5
Star Page 40-41LOLSorry, I don't follow. Why would Richard not be part of MK's next tour line-up; did I miss something?
So I guess Richard's not a part of next tour lineup.
I think they're joking about the fact that Richard spilled the beans so Mark would dump him.
Post by: border_reiver on August 01, 2017, 09:03:33 PM
Irony is hard... 🙄
Post by: Lis on August 01, 2017, 09:05:20 PM
Post by: holaknopfler on August 01, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
Jokingly, because beans were spilled about the most secret project ever. They have been very "Fortknoxy" about it and Richard - who perhaps isn't a part of the project at all - gave it all away.
Irony is hard... 🙄
I'm actually laughing out loud right now hahaha
Post by: Pottel on August 01, 2017, 10:37:27 PM
mark ain't called zimmerman, so i would not worry too much...Broadway Musical at the end.... but nothing confirmed yet... time to ask Mr. Fletcher...? ;D ;DWow!! Darkshiver, this was a great find -- thanks for sharing the aricle and updating us!!!
https://issuu.com/372wn/docs/372wn_vol_i_issue5
Star Page 40-41LOLSorry, I don't follow. Why would Richard not be part of MK's next tour line-up; did I miss something?
So I guess Richard's not a part of next tour lineup.
I think they're joking about the fact that Richard spilled the beans so Mark would dump him.
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 01, 2017, 10:38:54 PM
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Post by: 2manyguitars on August 01, 2017, 10:42:47 PM
Post by: quizzaciously on August 01, 2017, 10:47:53 PM
Actually it was great, the songs are fine and it sounded 0% like The Police, which is also great.
Although I'm not too excited about it, I guess I should say thanks that it is not opera :lol
Post by: binone on August 01, 2017, 10:58:21 PM
MK started working on a musical with Lynda La Plante in the early 90s...
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Here it is:
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1993/It-s-on-to-a-Supergrass-in-Lynda-La-Plante-s-Framed-/id-5eafefdb71638108951ef368b25e322e
Post by: Love Expresso on August 01, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
What worries me is that Guy was talking about "connections" between both projects..
LE
Post by: Crusty on August 01, 2017, 11:06:41 PM
MK started working on a musical with Lynda La Plante in the early 90s...
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Here it is:
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1993/It-s-on-to-a-Supergrass-in-Lynda-La-Plante-s-Framed-/id-5eafefdb71638108951ef368b25e322e
''If 30,000 people can pay to see Dire Straits on tour,'' she said, ''there's a huge market which is untapped. It's just getting them in, putting something on stage they want to see.''
Hm.
Post by: binone on August 01, 2017, 11:08:42 PM
"I CAN tell you that there are many musicians involved in this project, most of them are very familiar to us all"
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 01, 2017, 11:12:03 PM
I was thinking about that the other day. Couldn't find the original info, might have even been on one of the last dais newsletters or something.....There was definitely an MK interview where it was mentioned as well, possibly Record Collector from 93... Which I don't have to hand right now. :(
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Post by: jbaent on August 01, 2017, 11:21:01 PM
Broadway Musical... hm.. pretty unserwhelmed..
What worries me is that Guy was talking about "connections" between both projects..
LE
Connections? That's new for me. What did he said exactly?
Post by: border_reiver on August 01, 2017, 11:24:51 PM
Broadway Musical... hm.. pretty unserwhelmed..
What worries me is that Guy was talking about "connections" between both projects..
LE
Connections? That's new for me. What did he said exactly?
Wild guess... Henrik Hansen?
Post by: quizzaciously on August 01, 2017, 11:26:22 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on August 01, 2017, 11:36:26 PM
Broadway Musical... hm.. pretty unserwhelmed..
What worries me is that Guy was talking about "connections" between both projects..
LE
Connections? That's new for me. What did he said exactly?
Could be that I did not remember it correctly.. Guy was talking of the two projects going "parallel" and "simultanously". Maybe that made me think the projects were connected. Sorry, my fault.
LE
Post by: koobaa on August 01, 2017, 11:45:07 PM
Post by: border_reiver on August 01, 2017, 11:45:52 PM
What if I told you, that this leak actually was planned and was carefully executed to misdirect fans from the real thing? You see, they've even did the leak through Richard, as in the most detective films—the killer is always a gardener or something, someone unexpected. This may be the greatest act of keeping recording process in secret, after all they got to keep the mark, right?
Occam's razor begs to differ. :)
Post by: jbaent on August 01, 2017, 11:52:43 PM
My guess is official announcement is very close Bennett won't dare to mention something that is so secret.
Anyway we still don't know WHICH musical is and if it will be represented in London too...
Post by: schmonka on August 02, 2017, 07:02:21 AM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/558f7787cf81a52a318f73d4bc36280a/tumblr_n26wi1mJDj1qh59n0o1_500.gif)
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 08:27:25 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 08:36:13 AM
Post by: Vesper on August 02, 2017, 08:45:11 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 09:22:04 AM
The interview on RB's page has been altered. The sentence of MK doing the Broadway musical has been whiped out.
Oh Oh... :smack
So the news wasn´t ready yet to be revealed ;D
Post by: quizzaciously on August 02, 2017, 09:31:08 AM
The interview on RB's page has been altered. The sentence of MK doing the Broadway musical has been whiped out.
Omg, that is so stupid that it's not even funny... My only guess about this "super-mega-secret" project, is that it can be cancelled at any moment, so they are just trying to not to set the false alarm.
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 09:34:14 AM
revealing news may accelerate the official announcement… or not….
Post by: Crusty on August 02, 2017, 09:38:29 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 09:38:35 AM
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 09:44:57 AM
Post by: border_reiver on August 02, 2017, 09:46:08 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 10:15:03 AM
That screen capture is from facebook? In the magazine link it is...
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
Post by: Crusty on August 02, 2017, 11:12:42 AM
Post by: skydiver on August 02, 2017, 11:15:10 AM
Post by: quizzaciously on August 02, 2017, 11:18:12 AM
Does the tracklist that was posted and removed some time ago fit in with a Broadway Musical?
As far as I remember, the titles would perfectly fit a Local Hero inspired project. Now... Imagine a Local Hero musical... I don't know how to do it, but sheer thought inspires me a big deal.
Post by: schmonka on August 02, 2017, 11:25:35 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 11:56:31 AM
Post by: Crusty on August 02, 2017, 12:14:28 PM
If we see McIntosh on guitar duties next tour, we´ll know why ;D ;D ;D ;D
From musikal instructions:
Exit RB.
Enter RM.
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 12:40:52 PM
Post by: binone on August 02, 2017, 01:00:54 PM
:smack :smackF%@_-g great
Post by: Love Expresso on August 02, 2017, 01:10:17 PM
The interview on RB's page has been altered. The sentence of MK doing the Broadway musical has been whiped out.
I guess you don't need too much Imagination how this came to be... right after we discovered and duscussed it? Hello Guy! :wave why not showing up officially around here? Would be an honour for AMIT!
LE
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 01:53:03 PM
Post by: Millionaire Blues on August 02, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
So it's either Princess Bride, Local hero as per the local heroesque tracklist or a different musical altogether??
This is a list of musicals on Broadway that are in development...
http://www.playbill.com/article/schedule-of-upcoming-broadway-shows-com-113677
Could it be one of these??
8)
Post by: quizzaciously on August 02, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
This is a list of musicals on Broadway that are in development...
http://www.playbill.com/article/schedule-of-upcoming-broadway-shows-com-113677
Could it be one of these??
8)
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS?! Touchdown, Mark! :lol :lol :lol
Post by: Millionaire Blues on August 02, 2017, 02:29:26 PM
http://www.playbill.com/article/schedule-of-upcoming-movie-musical-adaptations-com-216487
Glenn close and Steven Daltry are two names that are vaguely associated with MK, could be one of them.
X
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 02:50:02 PM
Post by: jabbathehut on August 02, 2017, 03:02:37 PM
Post by: dmg on August 02, 2017, 03:03:29 PM
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 03:05:24 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 02, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 02, 2017, 04:23:21 PM
Post by: cannibals on August 02, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Post by: darkshiver on August 02, 2017, 04:34:32 PM
Re RB, I don't think Mark can afford to let him go, the guy is a genius and a real cool dude. There are not many guitar players like him out there, especially because he's much more than a guitar player. And to be honest I really don't think it was his fault, it probably slipped out, he asked the interviewer not to divulge it but you know... a jornalist is a jornalist.
All previous comments (and including photos…) are just hilarious and ironics respect the “ultrasecret project” of Mark… That’s all. Mark knows the value of Richard as guitarist and friend.
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 02, 2017, 05:25:31 PM
Re RB, I don't think Mark can afford to let him go, the guy is a genius and a real cool dude. There are not many guitar players like him out there, especially because he's much more than a guitar player. And to be honest I really don't think it was his fault, it probably slipped out, he asked the interviewer not to divulge it but you know... a jornalist is a jornalist.
All previous comments (and including photos…) are just hilarious and ironics respect the “ultrasecret project” of Mark… That’s all. Mark knows the value of Richard as guitarist and friend.
I know, I was backing up your assertions.
Post by: jbaent on August 02, 2017, 06:59:13 PM
Misquoted? It is a West End musical, not a Broadway musical then. Journalist must be American. ;D
Probably Richard made a quick comment about it, not expecting that the journalist would mention it and, probably Richard just said "musical", and the journalist added Broadway as he is american.
Post by: border_reiver on August 02, 2017, 09:30:29 PM
Misquoted? It is a West End musical, not a Broadway musical then. Journalist must be American. ;D
Probably Richard made a quick comment about it, not expecting that the journalist would mention it and, probably Richard just said "musical", and the journalist added Broadway as he is american.
This :thumbsup
Smartest comment so far :)
Post by: quizzaciously on August 02, 2017, 10:20:33 PM
Misquoted? It is a West End musical, not a Broadway musical then. Journalist must be American. ;D
Probably Richard made a quick comment about it, not expecting that the journalist would mention it and, probably Richard just said "musical", and the journalist added Broadway as he is american.
This :thumbsup
Smartest comment so far :)
But what's the difference LOL?
It reminds me of an old April Fools' joke:
— Mom, mom! Dad has committed suicide!
— Where?! — frightened mom follows her son.
— In the attic!
Goes in the attic — nothing. Son:
— Happy April Fools'! He committed suicide in the basement, not in the attic!
Post by: border_reiver on August 02, 2017, 10:36:51 PM
Misquoted? It is a West End musical, not a Broadway musical then. Journalist must be American. ;D
Probably Richard made a quick comment about it, not expecting that the journalist would mention it and, probably Richard just said "musical", and the journalist added Broadway as he is american.
This :thumbsup
Smartest comment so far :)
But what's the difference LOL?
It reminds me of an old April Fools' joke:
— Mom, mom! Dad has committed suicide!
— Where?! — frightened mom follows her son.
— In the attic!
Goes in the attic — nothing. Son:
— Happy April Fools'! He committed suicide in the basement, not in the attic!
Well then, plural it is!
Post by: border_reiver on August 02, 2017, 10:39:59 PM
At least we can be certain that we won't see him prancing around, in the moonlight, with a cane and a top hat
Post by: Jeremiah Dixon on August 03, 2017, 08:48:43 AM
Writing songs for a musical is very different to writing songs for an album – even if it’s just a ‘play with songs’ the songs still have to serve the story. I can’t imagine MK is going to change his style at all, and I’m sure he’s up to the challenge, but it is a change from what he’s used to.
Secondly, any musical is a collaborative effort. Even if MK has sole artistic control – even if he is bankrolling the whole thing – it’s still a collaboration. There is whoever is writing the ‘book’, the director, possibly other producers, set designers, maybe orchestrators and ultimately the cast who will perform it. We know Mark likes to have total control of whatever he is working on, so a musical would take him well outside that comfort zone.
Finally, a musical is always a gamble. You can have the best songwriters, the best cast, a producer with a string of hits…and still crash and burn. The current fad for ‘jukebox’ musicals is probably a safer bet, but it doesn’t sound like this project will just be a rehash of old Dire Straits hits. The MK team will be used to knowing pretty much what any album or tour will generate financially – this will be very different.
So, maybe the secrecy is them getting it to a point to see if it works: the songs, the way of working, whether the whole thing hangs together? If it was me, I’d probably want to have a good look at it and maybe get some feedback before announcing anything.
As I say, just my thoughts. I kind of hope it isn’t a musical but part of me is curious to see what it would sound like…
Post by: Marnix on August 03, 2017, 02:42:05 PM
The brothers got in to a fight which musical direction the band must go and one of them left the band. The other one had a lot of suscces with the band and the two brothers lost connect. And friend of the succefull brother said i think it´s easier to get in touch with Elvis Presley then with your own brother. After years they burry the ax and reunite the group but will it a succes or a flop?
The musical will include classic hits as Sultans of Swing, Lady writer and Calling Elvis and also brand new songs 8)
Post by: jbaent on August 03, 2017, 02:44:00 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 03, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
We will get Calling Elvis the musical about 2 brothers who started 40 years ago a band and had succes all around the world. ;D
The brothers got in to a fight which musical direction the band must go and one of them left the band. The other one had a lot of suscces with the band and the two brothers lost connect. And friend of the succefull brother said i think it´s easier to get in touch with Elvis Presley then with your own brother. After years they burry the ax and reunite the group but will it a succes or a flop?
The musical will include classic hits as Sultans of Swing, Lady writer and Calling Elvis and also brand new songs 8)
Probably more like the quest to find the best guitar-amp-mic combination for each song :lol
Post by: Lis on August 03, 2017, 05:36:36 PM
LOL!! :DWe will get Calling Elvis the musical about 2 brothers who started 40 years ago a band and had succes all around the world. ;D
The brothers got in to a fight which musical direction the band must go and one of them left the band. The other one had a lot of suscces with the band and the two brothers lost connect. And friend of the succefull brother said i think it´s easier to get in touch with Elvis Presley then with your own brother. After years they burry the ax and reunite the group but will it a succes or a flop?
The musical will include classic hits as Sultans of Swing, Lady writer and Calling Elvis and also brand new songs 8)
Probably more like the quest to find the best guitar-amp-mic combination for each song :lol
Post by: dmg on August 05, 2017, 12:21:05 PM
MK started working on a musical with Lynda La Plante in the early 90s...
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Just thinking that nowadays his wife is a writer. Perhaps Kitty is working on this instead of La Plante... :think
Post by: quizzaciously on August 06, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
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Post by: quizzaciously on August 06, 2017, 12:46:12 PM
Post by: superval99 on August 06, 2017, 01:34:53 PM
https://www.thestage.co.uk/opinion/2017/girl-from-the-north-country-at-the-old-vic-review-round-up/
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre-dance/reviews/girl-from-the-north-country-old-vic-review-a7863891.html
Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 01:48:23 PM
And by the way, his musical has some old songs of his, as well as some of the new, I guess the same thing will be with MK.
Judging by the leaked titles, all songs are written specifically by MK for the musical.
Post by: superval99 on August 06, 2017, 01:52:13 PM
And by the way, his musical has some old songs of his, as well as some of the new, I guess the same thing will be with MK.
Judging by the leaked titles, all songs are written specifically by MK for the musical.
That's what I understood too!
From a few of the reviews I have read about "Girl from the North Country" no new songs were mentioned, only the 20 from Dylan's back catalogue.
Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 02:42:43 PM
Maybe the only difference might be that, as far as I know, Sting composed that musical by its initiative, and MK was asked (according Guy's answers) to do it.
Sting recorded all the songs with guests musicians and his own band, released it on cd and then actors played it at Broadway and in some places in England. It looks like MK recorded the songs with his musicians and guests, it might be released in CD and then, actors will play it on stage...
I think they are close projects, aren't they?
Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 02:45:48 PM
My ‘two penn’orth’ if it is really a musical. That would be a big departure for MK, for a few reasons, any of which might have some bearing on the secrecy surrounding the project.
Writing songs for a musical is very different to writing songs for an album – even if it’s just a ‘play with songs’ the songs still have to serve the story. I can’t imagine MK is going to change his style at all, and I’m sure he’s up to the challenge, but it is a change from what he’s used to.
Secondly, any musical is a collaborative effort. Even if MK has sole artistic control – even if he is bankrolling the whole thing – it’s still a collaboration. There is whoever is writing the ‘book’, the director, possibly other producers, set designers, maybe orchestrators and ultimately the cast who will perform it. We know Mark likes to have total control of whatever he is working on, so a musical would take him well outside that comfort zone.
Finally, a musical is always a gamble. You can have the best songwriters, the best cast, a producer with a string of hits…and still crash and burn. The current fad for ‘jukebox’ musicals is probably a safer bet, but it doesn’t sound like this project will just be a rehash of old Dire Straits hits. The MK team will be used to knowing pretty much what any album or tour will generate financially – this will be very different.
So, maybe the secrecy is them getting it to a point to see if it works: the songs, the way of working, whether the whole thing hangs together? If it was me, I’d probably want to have a good look at it and maybe get some feedback before announcing anything.
As I say, just my thoughts. I kind of hope it isn’t a musical but part of me is curious to see what it would sound like…
This great post makes me think that it would probably take more than we expected... We don't know in which point they are, but any news about it for next year it looks unlikely.
Post by: superval99 on August 06, 2017, 03:29:57 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on August 06, 2017, 04:35:58 PM
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Post by: superval99 on August 06, 2017, 04:40:37 PM
Still not too enthusiastic about this Musical affair. After that underwhelming Altamira soundtrack which I even do not possess, this is the next strange thing from MK... don't know.. I really hope for a proper solo album that is not affected at all by this "new adventure" and gives me back some confidence in him and his artistic decisions.... how he can spend so much time for other people's plans I don't know.
LE
I like Altamira very much - it is rather short, but very sweet! :)
Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 07:26:47 PM
I really hope it is successful for MK. "The Last Ship" had a lot of awards and plaudits, but Jimmy Nail was eventually replaced by Sting in order to revive it, but even then it closed early and, I believe lost money. I hope this doesn't happen in this case.
Sting is a biggest name when it comes to the music business so if his musical was a failure, I don't have expectations that MK one could improve what Sting achieved.
Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 07:29:10 PM
Still not too enthusiastic about this Musical affair. After that underwhelming Altamira soundtrack which I even do not possess, this is the next strange thing from MK... don't know.. I really hope for a proper solo album that is not affected at all by this "new adventure" and gives me back some confidence in him and his artistic decisions.... how he can spend so much time for other people's plans I don't know.
LE
Actually Altamira took him very little time to be finished. When Tracker was ready he and MK started with the soundtrack and it was finished lot of time before their tracker tour rehearsals started so it wasn't a distraction at all.
Post by: Love Expresso on August 06, 2017, 09:42:59 PM
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Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 10:07:21 PM
I meant the time he spends on the "musical".
LE
Yes, a.musical will demand a lot of time... If it wasn't for it, probably a new CD would be ready for release and we would be crazy buying concert tickets but... Here we are...
Post by: jbaent on August 06, 2017, 10:39:51 PM
You get what you deserve :-*
Post by: Love Expresso on August 06, 2017, 10:52:04 PM
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Post by: jbaent on August 07, 2017, 08:31:11 AM
If it happens to be in Broadway, that is unlikely because of what Guy´s answered, it would be impossible to me and for many other European fans to attend. If it´s in the Londoner West End, it would be easier in terms of travel but I´m sure that getting tickets won´t be easy nor cheap, so... to all the fans that would like to see how the musical it's on stage but can't attend... is there any other way?
I was searching internet for any complete representation of "The Last Ship" and I can´t find any so I guess that the Sting/Police fans that weren´t able to attend the musical in the theaters didn't had any chance at all as it wasn´t released in dvd (as far as I know).
I know that many of you don´t care at all about it, but as a MK fan I'm honestly curious about it, I truly would like to attend it and satisfie my curiosity.
Post by: jbaent on August 07, 2017, 09:30:06 AM
In September 2011, it was confirmed that British musician Sting was working on a musical,[2] following rumours the previous year.[3] A first reading took place in Manhattan in October that year,[4] with a further reading in Newcastle in February 2012[5] and ultimately a full staged reading[6] for the musical was held in 2013.[7] In September 2013, the show was officially confirmed and it was announced that the show would premiere in Chicago in 10 June 2014.
So it was rumoured in 2010, confirmed in 2011, readed in 2012, rehearsed in a stage in 2013 and premiered in 2014
MK´s one it´s been rumoured between 2016/2017, following Sting´s example... confirmed 2018, readed 2019, rehearsed in 2020 and premiered in 2021?
That´s a lot of time for a project, it is, but... that´s how Sting musical developed...
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 07, 2017, 04:21:06 PM
I just hope it doesn't fall apart and is successfully concluded.
Post by: Rolleyway Man on August 08, 2017, 12:57:45 AM
If it does in fact turn out to be a musical of some form, then it will be fascinating to see what Mark has come up with and how different it will be from his regular output. The music Sting came up with was certainly different from any original material he had previously recorded. In musical terms, I thought it was a masterpiece in many ways - though, having heard the cast recording, I actually felt the music worked better on its own than it did with the dramatic element. The story simply gave him some creative direction which resulted in him writing a lot of songs, and we got his first album of original material in ten years out of it. If you watch his Live at the Public Theatre DVD, you can see how well the material worked in its own right, separated from the play. He has since kicked on and recorded a regular rock album for the first time in many years, and now appears to be working on another one whilst on the road, so that's the important thing for me as a fan of his.
Sting was indeed working on The Last Ship for around three years before it finally saw some form of release. Even when the album came out in 2013, the play was still a work in progress and was still having lots of changes made. That's one of the issues with this kind of project - if the story changes, certain songs no longer fit in and others have to be written to accommodate it…so we could be waiting a good while longer if this project does turn out to be a musical or something similar.
Post by: jbaent on August 08, 2017, 08:23:46 AM
A musical does seem to be a fairly unusual thing for Mark to do - indeed, Guy did say that Richard may have been 'misquoted', so it's still really a case of watching and waiting to see exactly what is going on.
Richard was "misquoted" because probably the journalist shouldn´t say anything, and, probably, also missunderstood that the musical was for Broadway. Guy didn´t deny it was a musical, in fact, just said he can't say anything. In other cases he answered "that's not the project", like when there was news about a "Princess Bride musical" in the works.
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If it does in fact turn out to be a musical of some form, then it will be fascinating to see what Mark has come up with and how different it will be from his regular output. The music Sting came up with was certainly different from any original material he had previously recorded. In musical terms, I thought it was a masterpiece in many ways - though, having heard the cast recording, I actually felt the music worked better on its own than it did with the dramatic element. The story simply gave him some creative direction which resulted in him writing a lot of songs, and we got his first album of original material in ten years out of it. If you watch his Live at the Public Theatre DVD, you can see how well the material worked in its own right, separated from the play. He has since kicked on and recorded a regular rock album for the first time in many years, and now appears to be working on another one whilst on the road, so that's the important thing for me as a fan of his.
Yes, but that DVD is Sting and his band playing live the songs, not the musical play itself. My post about it was directly about the play, something that if you didn't attend the theater you miss it.
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Sting was indeed working on The Last Ship for around three years before it finally saw some form of release. Even when the album came out in 2013, the play was still a work in progress and was still having lots of changes made. That's one of the issues with this kind of project - if the story changes, certain songs no longer fit in and others have to be written to accommodate it…so we could be waiting a good while longer if this project does turn out to be a musical or something similar.
Yes, that's my guess. This secret project is going to take a long time...
Post by: Rail King on August 08, 2017, 08:55:16 AM
Post by: Rolleyway Man on August 08, 2017, 10:43:00 AM
QuoteIf it does in fact turn out to be a musical of some form, then it will be fascinating to see what Mark has come up with and how different it will be from his regular output. The music Sting came up with was certainly different from any original material he had previously recorded. In musical terms, I thought it was a masterpiece in many ways - though, having heard the cast recording, I actually felt the music worked better on its own than it did with the dramatic element. The story simply gave him some creative direction which resulted in him writing a lot of songs, and we got his first album of original material in ten years out of it. If you watch his Live at the Public Theatre DVD, you can see how well the material worked in its own right, separated from the play. He has since kicked on and recorded a regular rock album for the first time in many years, and now appears to be working on another one whilst on the road, so that's the important thing for me as a fan of his.QuoteYes, but that DVD is Sting and his band playing live the songs, not the musical play itself. My post about it was directly about the play, something that if you didn't attend the theater you miss it.
My point was that the DVD demonstrates the songs (to my mind, at least) worked better on their own, without the dramatic element. Although I didn't see the play, I have the cast recording on CD and the songs didn't seem even half as effective in the context of the play as the original versions played by Sting and the band. I find that is often the case with musicals. Or perhaps I just don't like musicals!
Post by: jbaent on August 08, 2017, 11:18:00 AM
QuoteIf it does in fact turn out to be a musical of some form, then it will be fascinating to see what Mark has come up with and how different it will be from his regular output. The music Sting came up with was certainly different from any original material he had previously recorded. In musical terms, I thought it was a masterpiece in many ways - though, having heard the cast recording, I actually felt the music worked better on its own than it did with the dramatic element. The story simply gave him some creative direction which resulted in him writing a lot of songs, and we got his first album of original material in ten years out of it. If you watch his Live at the Public Theatre DVD, you can see how well the material worked in its own right, separated from the play. He has since kicked on and recorded a regular rock album for the first time in many years, and now appears to be working on another one whilst on the road, so that's the important thing for me as a fan of his.QuoteYes, but that DVD is Sting and his band playing live the songs, not the musical play itself. My post about it was directly about the play, something that if you didn't attend the theater you miss it.
My point was that the DVD demonstrates the songs (to my mind, at least) worked better on their own, without the dramatic element. Although I didn't see the play, I have the cast recording on CD and the songs didn't seem even half as effective in the context of the play as the original versions played by Sting and the band. I find that is often the case with musicals. Or perhaps I just don't like musicals!
Actually the reason to write a musical is to represent it on stage. A cd with the songs by the cast doesn´t have the main thing, the acting, only have the songs. In the Sting case, he released the songs before sung by himself and played by his band, and then he did that dvd playing him and hisband those songs. The missing piece would had been a dvd with the musical represented on stage, that it's the final part of the project.
Anyway, it´s nice to have the songs played by the artists, apart of the musical itself. I wish MK could release the songs sung by himself apart of the musical.
Post by: Rail King on August 08, 2017, 01:38:31 PM
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Anyway, it´s nice to have the songs played by the artists, apart of the musical itself.
I think that's what Guy was hinting at, wasn't he? That the "secret project" and the new studio album could be somehow linked. That would be fine with me. As long as I get an MK record full of great songs, I have no problem with someone singing and dancing to them on a stage. ;)
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2017, 11:37:17 AM
Paul Simon's musical was also an expensive failure.I really hope it is successful for MK. "The Last Ship" had a lot of awards and plaudits, but Jimmy Nail was eventually replaced by Sting in order to revive it, but even then it closed early and, I believe lost money. I hope this doesn't happen in this case.
Sting is a biggest name when it comes to the music business so if his musical was a failure, I don't have expectations that MK one could improve what Sting achieved.
I can sort of understand the logic - great songwriters so they can write great songs for a musical right?
On the evidence of Paul Simon and Sting. The answer is no. Completely different art forms, a bit arrogant to think they can do it?
Maybe MK will prove to be the exception to the rule.
Now that cat is out of the bag here's the previously censored list of song titles:
01) AIMING FOR THE STARS
02) BARREL OF CRUDE
03) CHEEKY WEE PINT
04) CHEERIO AWAY YE GO
05) FILTHY DIRTY RICH
06) I HOPE YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED O(PINION)
07) I WONDER IF I CAN GO HOME AG(AIN)
08) IN AN IDEAL WORLD
09) ONLY ROCKS AND WATER
10) PERSONAL
11) SONG ABOUT LOVE
12) THAT D DO NICELY
13) THINGS WE DO
14) WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A KILLIN'
15) WHAT A LIFE
16) YOU CAN'T EAT THE SCENERY
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Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2017, 11:41:41 AM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/broadway/7760452/steve-earle-samara-new-play-interview
Can't these guys stick to what they are good at?!
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Post by: jbaent on August 09, 2017, 02:14:04 PM
My second favourite musician is also writing a Broadway musical
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/broadway/7760452/steve-earle-samara-new-play-interview
Can't these guys stick to what they are good at?!
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My guess regarding MK involvement is that probably he was asked by a friend and coudn't say no... I can't imagine MK waking up one day and telling Kitty while drinking his morning tea "mmm, I feel like writing a musical..."
Post by: dmg on August 09, 2017, 02:39:53 PM
Wee
Cheeky
Cheerio
Ye (possibility)
Killin' (possibility).
Possibly a Scottish theme. I think Local Hero has been mooted already and makes sense looking at a few of the song titles. I am finding it difficult to imagine this on stage though as it isn't a studio-bound film and has quite a lot of outdoor shooting.
Post by: Lestroid on August 09, 2017, 02:55:52 PM
And consider the song on this list "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" vs "Going Home"
I'll have to go back and reread exactly what Guy said about Local Hero, but he's certainly been known to redirect attention if a guess gets too close.
I agree that Guy's statement about Richard being misquoted is likely about Broadway vs a musical in general. I'm betting it's for the theater in London.
At any rate, we'll all know eventually what this mystery project is.
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
Local Hero adaptation makes sense. Only musicals that make money for the most part these days are adaptations and "jukebox" musicals.
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Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2017, 04:53:55 PM
He says no to plenty of stuff that would be a hell of a lot easier than writing a musical. :)My second favourite musician is also writing a Broadway musical
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/broadway/7760452/steve-earle-samara-new-play-interview
Can't these guys stick to what they are good at?!
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My guess regarding MK involvement is that probably he was asked by a friend and coudn't say no... I can't imagine MK waking up one day and telling Kitty while drinking his morning tea "mmm, I feel like writing a musical..."
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Post by: qjamesfloyd on August 09, 2017, 05:17:23 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 09, 2017, 05:22:41 PM
He says no to plenty of stuff that would be a hell of a lot easier than writing a musical. :)My second favourite musician is also writing a Broadway musical
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/broadway/7760452/steve-earle-samara-new-play-interview
Can't these guys stick to what they are good at?!
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My guess regarding MK involvement is that probably he was asked by a friend and coudn't say no... I can't imagine MK waking up one day and telling Kitty while drinking his morning tea "mmm, I feel like writing a musical..."
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In my humble opinion writing a musical is the hardest process of music production there is for a non-erudite composer. I simply don't see Mark doing it, it's insanely demanding.
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason behind all the secrecy is the fact that Mark's still trying to figure out if he's the right man for the job.
Post by: jbaent on August 09, 2017, 06:07:34 PM
I dunno, regardless of what Guy said, those titles sure seem to fit Local Hero to me. There's even a quote from the movie "you can't eat the scenery".
I always saw the film in Spanish so I didn't notice that..
In which moment is said, by who and what means?
Post by: Rolleyway Man on August 09, 2017, 06:29:11 PM
This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Indeed. There is still absolutely no certainty as to what this project is exactly. For all we know, the writer of the article on Richard Bennett may have got completely the wrong end of the stick. And whatever it is, regardless of how successful it turns out to be or whether it is to everyone's taste, we know from past experience that Mark will do the best job he possibly can. If these song titles are correct, then it's a bit disappointing they've been leaked so early on. I'd much rather find out about the details at the appropriate time, when they are officially made available.
Post by: jbaent on August 09, 2017, 06:46:02 PM
This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Paul Simon did it
Sting did it
Steve Earl is going to do it
Any other contemporaries doing it or did it to sum them at the list?
Post by: Banjo99uk on August 09, 2017, 07:54:02 PM
you cant eat the scenery is at 30 seconds
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KiNSCKtfVos
Post by: binone on August 09, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
I dunno, regardless of what Guy said, those titles sure seem to fit Local Hero to me. There's even a quote from the movie "you can't eat the scenery".
I always saw the film in Spanish so I didn't notice that..
In which moment is said, by who and what means?
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiNSCKtfVos
Post by: jbaent on August 09, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Post by: K-alberto on August 09, 2017, 08:55:58 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/09/arts/music/bruce-springsteen-broadway-concerts.html?module=WatchingPortal®ion=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=thumb_square&state=standard&contentPlacement=2&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F08%2F09%2Farts%2Fmusic%2Fbruce-springsteen-broadway-concerts.html&eventName=Watching-article-click
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
Elton John (Billy Elliot, big hit)This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Paul Simon did it
Sting did it
Steve Earl is going to do it
Any other contemporaries doing it or did it to sum them at the list?
Bono & The Edge (Spiderman, massive flop)
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Post by: dustyvalentino on August 09, 2017, 08:59:08 PM
Fair enough. The point of this new subforum is to speculate on forthcoming projects so inevitably there will be some spoilers.This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Indeed. There is still absolutely no certainty as to what this project is exactly. For all we know, the writer of the article on Richard Bennett may have got completely the wrong end of the stick. And whatever it is, regardless of how successful it turns out to be or whether it is to everyone's taste, we know from past experience that Mark will do the best job he possibly can. If these song titles are correct, then it's a bit disappointing they've been leaked so early on. I'd much rather find out about the details at the appropriate time, when they are officially made available.
I'll see if we can get it marked with a spoiler warning for people who don't want to know such things.
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Post by: jbaent on August 10, 2017, 08:25:10 AM
Fair enough. The point of this new subforum is to speculate on forthcoming projects so inevitably there will be some spoilers.This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Indeed. There is still absolutely no certainty as to what this project is exactly. For all we know, the writer of the article on Richard Bennett may have got completely the wrong end of the stick. And whatever it is, regardless of how successful it turns out to be or whether it is to everyone's taste, we know from past experience that Mark will do the best job he possibly can. If these song titles are correct, then it's a bit disappointing they've been leaked so early on. I'd much rather find out about the details at the appropriate time, when they are officially made available.
I'll see if we can get it marked with a spoiler warning for people who don't want to know such things.
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if this is "speculation" then it's not spoiler. Spoiler is to reveal something is known to be truth, so, this is or a speculation or a spoiler, but can't be both at the same time.
;D
Maybe the right name to this thread might be "Speculations about the MK secret project"
Post by: jbaent on August 10, 2017, 08:47:08 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lynda-La-Plantes-Civvies-2-Discs-Jason-Isaacs-Lennie-James-New-DVD-/182603275263?hash=item2a8400dbff:g:Td0AAOSwubRXLcNP (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lynda-La-Plantes-Civvies-2-Discs-Jason-Isaacs-Lennie-James-New-DVD-/182603275263?hash=item2a8400dbff:g:Td0AAOSwubRXLcNP)
It says that the score is written by Mark Knopfler, did any of you know what´s this?
Post by: jbaent on August 10, 2017, 08:49:42 AM
Didn't realise that was a quote from the film.
Local Hero adaptation makes sense. Only musicals that make money for the most part these days are adaptations and "jukebox" musicals.
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Do you think it makes sense to do it for the West End? It's a very Scottish thing, so maybe Scotland theaters would be more appropiate...
Actually, I wish it's for Scottish theaters, I need any excuse to travel again to wonderful Scotland!!!!!
;D
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 10, 2017, 08:56:56 AM
If the speculation turns out to be right, then it's a spoiler. :)Fair enough. The point of this new subforum is to speculate on forthcoming projects so inevitably there will be some spoilers.This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Indeed. There is still absolutely no certainty as to what this project is exactly. For all we know, the writer of the article on Richard Bennett may have got completely the wrong end of the stick. And whatever it is, regardless of how successful it turns out to be or whether it is to everyone's taste, we know from past experience that Mark will do the best job he possibly can. If these song titles are correct, then it's a bit disappointing they've been leaked so early on. I'd much rather find out about the details at the appropriate time, when they are officially made available.
I'll see if we can get it marked with a spoiler warning for people who don't want to know such things.
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if this is "speculation" then it's not spoiler. Spoiler is to reveal something is known to be truth, so, this is or a speculation or a spoiler, but can't be both at the same time.
;D
Maybe the right name to this thread might be "Speculations about the MK secret project"
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Post by: dustyvalentino on August 10, 2017, 08:57:39 AM
Thinking about Lynda La Plante musical with MK that never happened I found this:My guess is that some of his songs were used in the soundtrack, not new stuff.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lynda-La-Plantes-Civvies-2-Discs-Jason-Isaacs-Lennie-James-New-DVD-/182603275263?hash=item2a8400dbff:g:Td0AAOSwubRXLcNP (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lynda-La-Plantes-Civvies-2-Discs-Jason-Isaacs-Lennie-James-New-DVD-/182603275263?hash=item2a8400dbff:g:Td0AAOSwubRXLcNP)
It says that the score is written by Mark Knopfler, did any of you know what´s this?
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Post by: dustyvalentino on August 10, 2017, 08:59:42 AM
You are welcome to come and stay with me free of charge any time you like my friend. :)Didn't realise that was a quote from the film.
Local Hero adaptation makes sense. Only musicals that make money for the most part these days are adaptations and "jukebox" musicals.
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Do you think it makes sense to do it for the West End? It's a very Scottish thing, so maybe Scotland theaters would be more appropiate...
Actually, I wish it's for Scottish theaters, I need any excuse to travel again to wonderful Scotland!!!!!
;D
Not much of a theatre scene in Scotland, yes, the cities all have theatres but it's not like Broadway or The West End where people make a special trip just to see a few shows.
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Post by: dustyvalentino on August 10, 2017, 09:01:38 AM
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Post by: jbaent on August 10, 2017, 09:17:43 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182008/soundtrack
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Then saying that the score was composed by MK was way too much, LOL
Post by: Rail King on August 10, 2017, 09:27:59 AM
I dunno, regardless of what Guy said, those titles sure seem to fit Local Hero to me. There's even a quote from the movie "you can't eat the scenery".
And consider the song on this list "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" vs "Going Home"
I'll have to go back and reread exactly what Guy said about Local Hero, but he's certainly been known to redirect attention if a guess gets too close.
I agree that Guy's statement about Richard being misquoted is likely about Broadway vs a musical in general. I'm betting it's for the theater in London.
At any rate, we'll all know eventually what this mystery project is.
Makes perfect sense. I guess a Local Hero musical will be what we get. The song title "A Barrel of Crude" fits perfectly, too.
Post by: Dutchessy on August 10, 2017, 11:34:29 AM
Fair enough. The point of this new subforum is to speculate on forthcoming projects so inevitably there will be some spoilers.This is all still speculation. I don't recall anything being announced officially yet. Would it really be that bad if it was a musical? as it is something he has never done before, how can we say if it will be bad or good? And if it is a musical, at least he is doing different things again, unlike most of his contemporaries do!!
Indeed. There is still absolutely no certainty as to what this project is exactly. For all we know, the writer of the article on Richard Bennett may have got completely the wrong end of the stick. And whatever it is, regardless of how successful it turns out to be or whether it is to everyone's taste, we know from past experience that Mark will do the best job he possibly can. If these song titles are correct, then it's a bit disappointing they've been leaked so early on. I'd much rather find out about the details at the appropriate time, when they are officially made available.
I'll see if we can get it marked with a spoiler warning for people who don't want to know such things.
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if this is "speculation" then it's not spoiler. Spoiler is to reveal something is known to be truth, so, this is or a speculation or a spoiler, but can't be both at the same time.
;D
Maybe the right name to this thread might be "Speculations about the MK secret project"
We agreed and it's done.
Post by: cannibals on August 11, 2017, 12:41:47 AM
I dunno, regardless of what Guy said, those titles sure seem to fit Local Hero to me. There's even a quote from the movie "you can't eat the scenery".
And consider the song on this list "I Wonder If I Can Go Home Again" vs "Going Home"
I'll have to go back and reread exactly what Guy said about Local Hero, but he's certainly been known to redirect attention if a guess gets too close.
I agree that Guy's statement about Richard being misquoted is likely about Broadway vs a musical in general. I'm betting it's for the theater in London.
At any rate, we'll all know eventually what this mystery project is.
Makes perfect sense. I guess a Local Hero musical will be what we get. The song title "A Barrel of Crude" fits perfectly, too.
So MK was asked to write songs for a musical of Local Hero. They are now making a musical of the film and want the same songwriter. Correct me if i am wrong!! But why keep it quiet??
Post by: quizzaciously on August 11, 2017, 01:04:34 AM
So MK was asked to write songs for a musical of Local Hero. They are now making a musical of the film and want the same songwriter. Correct me if i am wrong!! But why keep it quiet??
Because he's not completely sure if he would bring it out on stage? Some people suggested that and I agree...
Also, it's 35th Anniversary of Local Hero in 2018. And 40th Anniversary of the first Dire Straits album in 2018... How the two can collide?
Post by: jbaent on August 11, 2017, 09:55:45 AM
So MK was asked to write songs for a musical of Local Hero. They are now making a musical of the film and want the same songwriter. Correct me if i am wrong!! But why keep it quiet??
Because he's not completely sure if he would bring it out on stage? Some people suggested that and I agree...
Also, it's 35th Anniversary of Local Hero in 2018. And 40th Anniversary of the first Dire Straits album in 2018... How the two can collide?
I agree... maybe they are not sure yet if the adaptation they are working on will work until they do the firsts readings...
Post by: cannibals on August 11, 2017, 11:20:19 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 11, 2017, 11:23:30 AM
Okay but i found it hard to believe since they are working on this project since almost 1 year now that they will nothing do with it.....
The most expensive part of the project is the stage/representation one. Once Mk has wrote the songs, they have to do a first read of the book written for the play together with the songs and see if it works or not. If it doesn't work, there are two options, re-work on it or abandon it before you get into the expensive part of create everything that is needed for the stage representation.
I guess many musicals and plays are abandoned in that step. I´m not an expert but, I guess that's how it is.
Post by: cannibals on August 17, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
I am curious what his answer will be.
Post by: cannibals on August 17, 2017, 11:37:59 AM
So the secret project (musical) will happen for sure!
Post by: jbaent on August 17, 2017, 01:23:21 PM
About a "likely tour next year", someone said that, if there would be any tour next year, probably we will know soon, as they sell the tickets with lot of anticipation :think
Post by: cannibals on August 17, 2017, 01:37:31 PM
That has always been the case for the last 5 tours or so when he was touring Europe in the months may June and July. Perhaps next year will be different with a tour starting in the US in sept/okt and Europe to follow in 2019.... ??? ???
Post by: jbaent on August 17, 2017, 01:53:34 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Post by: Dutchessy on August 18, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
There was an issue (suddenly) with all the avatars and pictures on Amit. It's fixed with a backup (took me the whole day)
Now i'm going on a holiday for 3 weeks.
Post by: Dutchessy on August 19, 2017, 06:31:41 PM
John Mccusker will be touring in June/July 2018 with his wife Heidi Talbot. Does that mean no MK tour then? Or will MK be touring without John? Or will MK be touring in the autumn of 2018?
Post by: dmg on August 19, 2017, 08:25:12 PM
Right, I'm over it! Would this mean a replacement like Stuart Duncan or Bobby Valentino (Dusty's 2nd cousin twice removed). ;)
Personally I would be quite happy to have a tour without John and Mike for a change but since they are such a big part of the show and take a big load off Mark these days I doubt very much that that will ever happen.
Post by: crimmer on August 21, 2017, 09:20:42 AM
Post by: Love Expresso on August 21, 2017, 11:37:38 AM
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Post by: quizzaciously on August 21, 2017, 12:44:55 PM
That would be much cooler from my point of view. But there is the "secret song list" and those tracks titles have a lot in common with Local Hero... :think
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I'm surprised no one still posted Guy's interesting answer about Local Hero: "Yes, it was a great movie and the soundtrack seems to live on. The Going Home theme must be our most performed piece."
Seems to live on... Oh, what's that means? :think
Post by: Love Expresso on August 21, 2017, 12:51:45 PM
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Post by: ds1984 on August 21, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
He already did by saying: Rest assured, it will happen.
So the secret project (musical) will happen for sure!
Like the Madrid STP DVD ?
Post by: cannibals on August 21, 2017, 04:26:32 PM
He already did by saying: Rest assured, it will happen.
So the secret project (musical) will happen for sure!
Like the Madrid STP DVD ?
:smack :smack :smack
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 21, 2017, 04:26:52 PM
That would be much cooler from my point of view. But there is the "secret song list" and those tracks titles have a lot in common with Local Hero... :think
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I'm surprised no one still posted Guy's interesting answer about Local Hero: "Yes, it was a great movie and the soundtrack seems to live on. The Going Home theme must be our most performed piece."
Seems to live on... Oh, what's that means? :think
I think he means that the LH soundtrack is always remembered.
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 21, 2017, 04:28:49 PM
He already did by saying: Rest assured, it will happen.
So the secret project (musical) will happen for sure!
Like the Madrid STP DVD ?
That's probably the worst frustration I have as a MK fan.
Post by: Darling Pretty on August 21, 2017, 09:57:43 PM
He already did by saying: Rest assured, it will happen.
So the secret project (musical) will happen for sure!
Like the Madrid STP DVD ?
That's probably the worst frustration I have as a MK fan.
YES for me too. THE STP DVD would have been a Master Class DVD. His last 10 outta 10 Tour. Very frustating indeed
Post by: quizzaciously on August 21, 2017, 10:07:54 PM
YES for me too. THE STP DVD would have been a Master Class DVD. His last 10 outta 10 Tour. Very frustating indeed
I wonder if any of the master tapes for this has even survived. Probably they just lost some parts and it all went down ever since.
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 21, 2017, 10:30:12 PM
Meanwhile, substandard shows from the 07 promo tour and the Hurlingham Club show with a pickup band show on steady rotation on TV.
MK has a funny way of dealing with his legacy.
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Post by: jbaent on August 22, 2017, 08:26:50 AM
YES for me too. THE STP DVD would have been a Master Class DVD. His last 10 outta 10 Tour. Very frustating indeed
I wonder if any of the master tapes for this has even survived. Probably they just lost some parts and it all went down ever since.
As far as I know, the problem with Madrid 2001 STP dvd came with the sound. The audience was too loud screaming all the show along. I recall Guy saying that audience screaming was recorded not only by the audience mics but also but the rest of mics on stage.
Also Guy asked to Bilbao audience (I think it was the concert next day) to be quiet because they would record the sound of that concert as a backup and use it to patch Madrid sound. Looks it didn't worked as they also recorded Glasgow and Newcastle sound to do the same.
Guy asking Bilbao audience to be quiet:
https://web.archive.org/web/20021231051832/http://public.sitemanager.co.uk:80/markknopfler/tourdiary/viewDate.cfm?ID=93
Guy talking about the four shows recorded in audio:
https://web.archive.org/web/20021008100613/http://public.sitemanager.co.uk:80/markknopfler/tourdiary/viewDate.cfm?ID=104
I guess that, with four audio recorded (Madrid, Bilbao, Glasgow and Newcastle) they didn't manage to do anything good and they abandoned the project.
Post by: quizzaciously on August 22, 2017, 09:52:52 AM
YES for me too. THE STP DVD would have been a Master Class DVD. His last 10 outta 10 Tour. Very frustating indeed
I wonder if any of the master tapes for this has even survived. Probably they just lost some parts and it all went down ever since.
As far as I know, the problem with Madrid 2001 STP dvd came with the sound. The audience was too loud screaming all the show along. I recall Guy saying that audience screaming was recorded not only by the audience mics but also but the rest of mics on stage.
Also Guy asked to Bilbao audience (I think it was the concert next day) to be quiet because they would record the sound of that concert as a backup and use it to patch Madrid sound. Looks it didn't worked as they also recorded Glasgow and Newcastle sound to do the same.
Guy asking Bilbao audience to be quiet:
https://web.archive.org/web/20021231051832/http://public.sitemanager.co.uk:80/markknopfler/tourdiary/viewDate.cfm?ID=93
Guy talking about the four shows recorded in audio:
https://web.archive.org/web/20021008100613/http://public.sitemanager.co.uk:80/markknopfler/tourdiary/viewDate.cfm?ID=104
I guess that, with four audio recorded (Madrid, Bilbao, Glasgow and Newcastle) they didn't manage to do anything good and they abandoned the project.
LOL, bottom line—never hire a perfectionist (Chuck) to record your live show.
Post by: Love Expresso on August 22, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
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Post by: jbaent on August 22, 2017, 11:24:05 AM
I was in that Madrid concert in 2001, it was loud, very very very very loud...
Also that concert was the day after Chet Atkins died. Maybe MK didn't wanted to have a dvd with such memories :(
And besides that, there was some wind, MK had quite a long hair, moving from here to there... I found it funny but I thought it would be weird for a dvd...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JDs6kqpNY
Post by: jbaent on August 22, 2017, 11:25:43 AM
Why is everbody so keen on the Madrid show? Bad band, bad versions, even bad hair...
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Agree with most of what you say, but it was the last tour with a very clear MK rock attitude...
Post by: superval99 on August 22, 2017, 12:33:17 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on August 22, 2017, 02:50:17 PM
After Hamburg 2001 it was the first time I got home totally underwhelmed. 2005 was much better in every aspect apart from Mark wearing glasses.. ;)
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Post by: JF on August 22, 2017, 04:06:34 PM
- the return of the original 61 strat
- Wag the dog, junkie doll, pyroman,
- Baloney again : greatMike hendreson solo
- Walk of life : great fun with harmonica and slide guitar
- Speedway : I like the build on an dthe sound of 3 guitars, and that lick that Richard never played again on next tours
- Money for nothing : great great great intro
- WII : I like the Loch Ommond intro, and mark explaining the similarities in the melody
- great guests on the tour : Taylor, Raitt, Browne...
Post by: superval99 on August 22, 2017, 04:21:12 PM
I remember What It Is just not working, sounding terrible.. 2001 was the first time Sultans was covered over with a lot of heavy mistakes and greenies.. really the butchering of Sultans started in that year... great was Junkie Doll... I liked the acoustic guitar changing "game" on Speedway, but they never really nailed the song.. I remember Chad being far too loud at the two shows I attended. I
After Hamburg 2001 it was the first time I got home totally underwhelmed. 2005 was much better in every aspect apart from Mark wearing glasses.. ;)
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I was so upset after my RAH concert that I really thought I wasn't an MK fan anymore. Nothing sounded right and Mike Henderson's loud guitar was really the last straw. I came home totally depressed and I didn't even listen to any of my MK music for weeks afterwards. Obviously I did get over this disappointment eventually, though! :)
Post by: superval99 on August 22, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
- WII : I like the Loch Ommond intro, and mark explaining the similarities in the melody
This was also one of the things that stuck in my mind about this concert. I remember MK talking about the melody and I just wanted to crawl under my seat - it was so cringeworthy! It reminded me of being at school and the parts of a piece of music being explained to me, part by part, when all I wanted was to sit back and listen to the music without any interruptions!
Post by: Love Expresso on August 22, 2017, 06:26:09 PM
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Post by: Love Expresso on August 22, 2017, 06:33:20 PM
But to be fair when I listened to the radio broadcast recording weeks later, I still found the first half terrible but from Bonaparte on it was pretty good.
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Post by: JF on August 22, 2017, 09:55:03 PM
This was also one of the things that stuck in my mind about this concert. I remember MK talking about the melody and I just wanted to crawl under my seat - it was so cringeworthy! It reminded me of being at school and the parts of a piece of music being explained to me, part by part, when all I wanted was to sit back and listen to the music without any interruptions!
all tastes are in the nature ! I like when music is "explained". ;D
But I see your point, and I also like just listen to music without explanations ;D
Post by: jbaent on August 24, 2017, 11:14:13 AM
So, in short the content of the missing posts :P
John Mccusker will be touring in June/July 2018 with his wife Heidi Talbot. Does that mean no MK tour then? Or will MK be touring without John? Or will MK be touring in the autumn of 2018?
Guy answer about this is WE DON'T KNOW YET
Post by: quizzaciously on August 24, 2017, 12:21:12 PM
So, in short the content of the missing posts :P
John Mccusker will be touring in June/July 2018 with his wife Heidi Talbot. Does that mean no MK tour then? Or will MK be touring without John? Or will MK be touring in the autumn of 2018?
Guy answer about this is WE DON'T KNOW YET
And even if he knew, he wouldn't be able to say anyway. I'm surprised people are still asking Guy about highly secret topics like that :lol
Post by: herlock on August 24, 2017, 12:23:34 PM
I would have liked the DVD for TR alone, it was the only TR that was officially filmed in the "golden era" (no karaoke mode) of 1996/2001/2005..Why is everbody so keen on the Madrid show? Bad band, bad versions, even bad hair...
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Agree with most of what you say, but it was the last tour with a very clear MK rock attitude...
Also in this tour, as said, Junkie doll and Pyroman were unique, just like the MFN and WII intros.
Post by: primi on August 24, 2017, 10:19:36 PM
Post by: dmg on August 24, 2017, 11:06:09 PM
What do you mean by "no karaoke mode"?
"Karaoke mode" is the term generally referred to the versions performed from the 2008 tour onward (on AMIT anyway) where the solo after the lyrics "...like a rolling river..." was omitted. It is felt that with the omission of said solo that the band went into a karaoke mode until the next verse, hence the name.
"No karaoke mode" is obviously the opposite. :)
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 24, 2017, 11:16:10 PM
I'm sure the noise from the audience could be reduced to decent levels as well.
Maybe it wouldn't be perfect but who cares about perfection but Mark?
Post by: herlock on August 24, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
Thanks a lot dmg for your complete analysis of my deep thinking :)What do you mean by "no karaoke mode"?
"Karaoke mode" is the term generally referred to the versions performed from the 2008 tour onward (on AMIT anyway) where the solo after the lyrics "...like a rolling river..." was omitted. It is felt that with the omission of said solo that the band went into a karaoke mode until the next verse, hence the name.
"No karaoke mode" is obviously the opposite. :)
Post by: cannibals on August 24, 2017, 11:42:17 PM
So, in short the content of the missing posts :P
John Mccusker will be touring in June/July 2018 with his wife Heidi Talbot. Does that mean no MK tour then? Or will MK be touring without John? Or will MK be touring in the autumn of 2018?
Guy answer about this is WE DON'T KNOW YET
And even if he knew, he wouldn't be able to say anyway. I'm surprised people are still asking Guy about highly secret topics like that :lol
Believe me if they go on tour they already know. Guy always did say tours are planned way before they start. If there is no tournews before november this year then the best we can hope for is a tour to start after summer 2018...
Post by: skydiver on August 25, 2017, 08:29:12 AM
This would be a huge disappointment since the last touring break of two years was before the Shangri-La Tour over 12 years ago and that was only due to his accident.
There still would be a chance for a US leg in the spring with Europe later in the year where ticket sales could not start as early as for Europe.
We will know better in a month's time...
The tension is building...
Post by: jbaent on August 25, 2017, 08:40:19 AM
In the end, from May to June he plays indoor arenas. That means that a tour between september/december would make sense as well.
My guess is that the death line date for the secret project (the main speculation is a Local Hero musical) is after March (which is the date when they think thesolo album will be finished) so maybe MK has to be comitted in some way in that months that he usually would be touring with whatever would happen with the secret project (the musical).
A tour is always planned with plenty of time, what we don't know (and we won't be tell about it) is if they already had booked venues, in hold, just in case they have to cancel.
But I guess that the big cities where MK plays have several venues that fit with him. Just think in London... MK could play at the RAH, also at Wembley Arena, O2 Arena or even the Hammersmith Odeon. It would be rare if all are booked at the same time. Or just think in big cities that are close between them, Liverpool and Manchester, for example... I'm sure they can manage to organize a good tour in big venues in short time if needed.
My wish, is an autumm/winter indoor tour.
Post by: skydiver on August 25, 2017, 08:49:24 AM
John's touring plans for June/July are really worrying since I believe he will remain part of MK's band.
Mark just recently "confirmed" the Mcs as being in his band during the BBC folk awards last year. I think he wouldn't otherwise have said that.
We will know within a month's time if things are going "wrong".
Post by: jbaent on August 25, 2017, 09:21:50 AM
It's a schedule that most of us don't want, as 2019 is too far, but seems logical when you think in MK's usual schedule and that there is a project that has to be released and attented.
I wish I'm wrong.
Post by: cannibals on August 25, 2017, 10:14:44 AM
Post by: quizzaciously on August 25, 2017, 10:16:24 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 25, 2017, 10:24:20 AM
The problem is that we do not know what obligations he has for this secret project. Is it just making music for this musical and when this is done what more can he do besides a couple of interviews and showing up at the premiere.. ???
I wish he and his musicians could do some representations playing, but I doubt that would happen. I'd be happy if he does something like Sting did with "The Last Ship", playing the whole musicial himself with his musicians in a theatre in a one night only show (was it one night only?)
As the musical composer, in the final stages of the play before it gets to the theaters there will be many things to fix and he would have to do it, and probably he would have to be a kind of musical director during the rehearsals with the musicians that finally will play during the performances to be sure that everything is done properly.
Post by: ds1984 on August 25, 2017, 11:09:19 AM
We are not in the writing-recording-touring mode, some extra project has been inserted.
Add that some delay can occur for almost any project. This happened with the GH release and the subsequent 1995 planned "His First Solo Tour".
Last but not least Mark is ageing and may need more time / shorter tour such as doing US fall tour instead of doing both Europe and North America with only a 15 days break or so in between.
Post by: jbaent on August 28, 2017, 08:48:23 AM
Mark has no obligation to tour every two or three years this is just that we are used to this scheme.
He hasn't. We are used to this scheme, of course, and that's the only thing we have to speculate
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We are not in the writing-recording-touring mode, some extra project has been inserted.
And that's why we are more than speculating, cause this time there are extra factors
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Add that some delay can occur for almost any project. This happened with the GH release and the subsequent 1995 planned "His First Solo Tour".
And with the STP release, three film scores (Metroland, Wag the dog and A shot at glory) interfered with the STP recording process and it took four years between the GH tour and STP release.
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Last but not least Mark is ageing and may need more time / shorter tour such as doing US fall tour instead of doing both Europe and North America with only a 15 days break or so in between.
Actually he is doing that for the last two tours. First a European tour between Late April/May and July, and then a two months Fall tour in NA.
In my humble opinion, he plays too many gigs during his European tour, too much cities in Germany, Spain, France... usually he played just three or four as much, in the biggest cities, so the older he gets the more gigs he plays, he is doing it the opposite way...
In Spain we were used to have between two and three concerts (Madrid, Barcelona and other town,sometimes Bilbao, others Zaragoza...) but the last three tours he played a minimun of six concerts, usually in towns he never played before...
Whatever, let's hope that September bring us at least, some information to keep speculating and having fun while something happens!
Post by: JF on August 28, 2017, 09:42:30 AM
In my humble opinion, he plays too many gigs during his European tour, too much cities in Germany, Spain, France... usually he played just three or four as much, in the biggest cities, so the older he gets the more gigs he plays, he is doing it the opposite way...
In Spain we were used to have between two and three concerts (Madrid, Barcelona and other town,sometimes Bilbao, others Zaragoza...) but the last three tours he played a minimun of six concerts, usually in towns he never played before...
Whatever, let's hope that September bring us at least, some information to keep speculating and having fun while something happens!
I feel the exact opposite in France. The last time he went in Lyon was 2010 ! I find he is doing not enough dates in France....but of course that's from my point of view....
Post by: quizzaciously on August 28, 2017, 09:48:07 AM
Post by: jbaent on August 28, 2017, 09:48:51 AM
But, in France, is he playing more or less concerts that he used to play let´s say in the GH/STP/SL/KTGC tours? From my point of view, is from the GL tour where his tours became bigger and bigger.
Post by: jbaent on August 28, 2017, 09:54:21 AM
In my view he cancels too much shows in Russia :lol
Funny remark ;D Sad situation :(
Post by: jbaent on August 28, 2017, 11:25:50 AM
How big do you think this could be?
Do you see a "Local Hero Musical" being in the West End theaters for some months or even a year or two?
Do you think it might have a short period of time in the West End just to celebrate the 35th anniversary of the film?
Or maybe a short run in Scottish theaters in, let's speculate Glasgow, Edinburgh or Aberdeen (if it has a big theatre, it would make more sense due the distance with Penan...)?
Post by: cannibals on August 28, 2017, 01:12:01 PM
Post by: dmg on August 28, 2017, 01:30:14 PM
In my view he cancels too much shows in Russia :lol
Funny remark ;D Sad situation :(
He cancels concerts due to his own politics and his own fans are the ones missing out. Strange situation. If I had this attitude then I wouldn't play a concert in Scotland.
Regarding other countries, I think it would benefit both Mark and fans alike if he would play a few nights in a big city. Easy to get to and less exhausting travelling for Mark and band.
Post by: Darling Pretty on August 28, 2017, 06:39:53 PM
Well I think too that he plays 1 or 2 gigs too much here in Germany but at least people are buying his tickets.
Every concert got an attendance of minimum 6000 . Some get 10000 so why not playing 10-12 gigs?
In Spain the same. So I really hope he stays with this number as I tend to attend another spanish gig.
Such wonderful Bullrings and other settings. and the atmosphere is unbeaten in Europe.
All in all Mark covers European Areas very well. As he does in the US and Canada.
I Am a great Joe Bonamassa Fan as well. He only plays nowadays where he earns money.
His European Tour only consists of UK, Germany and 1 gig in Poland. That's it...
Would have loe to see him at Palau de la Musica in Barcelona e.g.
Post by: Love Expresso on August 28, 2017, 07:26:27 PM
And don't tell me this thread has written "speculation" in it's topic. Nobody never ever cares about being off-topic or on-topic in this whole forum, another thing that always annoys me but better should be discussed not now...
Just my opinion, no offence meant to anybody, .. rant over.
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Post by: cannibals on August 28, 2017, 07:56:54 PM
Post by: Darling Pretty on August 28, 2017, 08:53:19 PM
but what can we do?
But at least we will have a new album next year, a secret project, a Tour docu 2 years too late, Killers and Tommy Emmanuel Contributions
not bad at all
I think September will bring some more info. Summer break over
Post by: Love Expresso on August 28, 2017, 08:57:51 PM
I understand what you men but I believe that this is also the first time MK is working on a new project for almost one year now without sharing any information about it. So that's giving us plenty of time to speculate about it.....
Fair enough.
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Post by: cannibals on August 28, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
yeah. too much time this time if you ask me.
but what can we do?
But at least we will have a new album next year, a secret project, a Tour docu 2 years too late, Killers and Tommy Emmanuel Contributions
not bad at all
I think September will bring some more info. Summer break over
Guy is not keen on giving any information about an official announcement on the project on his forum today. I think we are far away from any kind of official information. It would really surprise me if they will come with info anytime soon. I for sure hope we will get some tour news in the next month but I really doubt it.........
Post by: K-alberto on August 28, 2017, 09:46:01 PM
;)
Post by: cannibals on August 28, 2017, 10:24:22 PM
From Guy's forum: "It's also still not possible for me to say anything just yet but I can say it is gathering pace and in my opinion, will be fantastic."
;)
The last time he was also asked about official announcement his answer was: Soon.
That was more than six months ago...... But he, if there is some news in the next weeks that's fine with me :lol :lol :lol but like I said before, i doubt it.....
The only info we get I think is from Guy new diary he promised us and that one will be in September.
Post by: K-alberto on August 28, 2017, 10:26:55 PM
Post by: quizzaciously on August 28, 2017, 11:18:47 PM
Yes, that's true... Nonetheless, I like to read him writing "fantastic" :-)
This is definitely the best album waiting ever, do you agree? I've never witnessed a better album waiting in my life before. First-class waiting, for sure. Fantastic!
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
yeah. too much time this time if you ask me.
but what can we do?
But at least we will have a new album next year, a secret project, a Tour docu 2 years too late, Killers and Tommy Emmanuel Contributions
not bad at all
I think September will bring some more info. Summer break over
Guy is not keen on giving any information about an official announcement on the project on his forum today. I think we are far away from any kind of official information. It would really surprise me if they will come with info anytime soon. I for sure hope we will get some tour news in the next month but I really doubt it.........
Any announcement before December would be a surprise to me.
Post by: jbaent on August 29, 2017, 08:24:49 AM
Yes, that's true... Nonetheless, I like to read him writing "fantastic" :-)
This is definitely the best album waiting ever, do you agree? I've never witnessed a better album waiting in my life before. First-class waiting, for sure. Fantastic!
STP was a four years waiting, but with two film scores released (Wag the dog and Metroland) and some NHB short tours (1997, 1998 and 1999) that made it easier .
Post by: cannibals on August 29, 2017, 11:19:38 AM
Post by: quizzaciously on September 02, 2017, 03:00:40 AM
So... Imagine Mark doing a masterclass on songwriting for masterclass.com (http://masterclass.com) website...
It's a cool platform and it's not like he wouldn't fit, look at their lineup:
Hans Zimmer teaches film scoring
Dustin Hoffman teaches acting
Herbie Hancock teaches jazz
Garry Kasparov teaches chess
Gordon Ramsay teaches cooking
Frank Gehry teaches design and architecture
Christina Aguilera teaches singing
Mark Knopfler teaches songwriting ??? :lol :lol
And so on! And most importantly—there's no any professor to teach songwriting yet! :lol
Okay, I know this is ridiculous speculation, but why not?
Post by: Love Expresso on September 02, 2017, 11:34:51 AM
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Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on September 02, 2017, 12:04:19 PM
I'm going to use my right for speculation now, sorry in advance for my extreme fantasies :D
So... Imagine Mark doing a masterclass on songwriting for masterclass.com (http://masterclass.com) website...
It's a cool platform and it's not like he wouldn't fit, look at their lineup:
Hans Zimmer teaches film scoring
Dustin Hoffman teaches acting
Herbie Hancock teaches jazz
Garry Kasparov teaches chess
Gordon Ramsay teaches cooking
Frank Gehry teaches design and architecture
Christina Aguilera teaches singing
Mark Knopfler teaches songwriting ??? :lol :lol
And so on! And most importantly—there's no any professor to teach songwriting yet! :lol
Okay, I know this is ridiculous speculation, but why not?
MK: "There's really no formula for it, if I knew it I would tell you". End of masterclass. ;D
Post by: quizzaciously on September 02, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
MK: "There's really no formula for it, if I knew it I would tell you". End of masterclass. ;D
You're not to far from the truth... In fact, judging by their trailers, a lot of those teachers actually can't really teach :lol
But it's another thing to love about creating process. Often masters in their craft can't explain a thing about what they do.
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 04, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
MK: "There's really no formula for it, if I knew it I would tell you". End of masterclass. ;D
You're not to far from the truth... In fact, judging by their trailers, a lot of those teachers actually can't really teach :lol
But it's another thing to love about creating process. Often masters in their craft can't explain a thing about what they do.
That's pure instinct when it comes to geniuses. They don't follow a formula.
You can't say the same about people like James Horner, Robert Lange or T Bone Burnett though. These guys as well as many others use songwriting strategies to hook people, almost an equation.
Post by: qjamesfloyd on September 04, 2017, 05:32:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nixe27_bpA
Post by: quizzaciously on September 04, 2017, 05:48:42 PM
MK: "There's really no formula for it, if I knew it I would tell you". End of masterclass. ;D
You're not to far from the truth... In fact, judging by their trailers, a lot of those teachers actually can't really teach :lol
But it's another thing to love about creating process. Often masters in their craft can't explain a thing about what they do.
That's pure instinct when it comes to geniuses. They don't follow a formula.
You can't say the same about people like James Horner, Robert Lange or T Bone Burnett though. These guys as well as many others use songwriting strategies to hook people, almost an equation.
And in the days of the creation of the Great American Songbook and Motown songwriters was working in offices 9 to 5 every day and had literally books with possible titles only. It's crazy, but no wonder their songs will probably never die.
Post by: jbaent on September 05, 2017, 11:07:00 PM
:-O
Probably just another year LOL
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 06, 2017, 06:50:06 PM
Post by: Pottel on September 07, 2017, 10:17:35 PM
and guy said, no no, not van, not bill...
but did not deny EC, so i wonder??
Post by: jbaent on September 08, 2017, 03:09:28 PM
Post by: Eddie Fox on September 08, 2017, 04:16:24 PM
someone asked if it was a van morisson or or or and the last one was EC
and guy said, no no, not van, not bill...
but did not deny EC, so i wonder??
I guess it's just Guy being vague as always unfortunatelly...
Post by: singv on September 20, 2017, 04:17:55 PM
<<Mark’s as yet untitled new album is currently scheduled for completion in March 2018>>
Post by: Lis on September 20, 2017, 07:16:30 PM
someone asked if it was a van morisson or or or and the last one was ECI noticed that too. He was rather specific with his answer. I think we can let our imaginations run wild with this....
and guy said, no no, not van, not bill...
but did not deny EC, so i wonder??
Post by: jbaent on September 20, 2017, 07:17:27 PM
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol